The Sun is Not What we We Have Been Told....

[zenmaster]

"Magical thinking" prevails when education and common sense are lacking. Fantasy must fill in the knowledge gaps with whatever most closely resonates with whimsical desire. Not quite "science", now is it.

Regardless of the stars: but does not 'common sense' draw simply on consensus? Consensus reality is not 'real' is it? Fantasy must be sourced from imagination.
Did Einstein for example draw on consensus or on his faculties of imagination when making his discoveries?
I recall having a similar conversation with a scientologist who proposed the 'reality is consensus' view - that seemed off to me at that time.
It would seem that consensus would serve only the prevailing paradigm.
You got me slightly confused zen, care to expand?

Yes, reality vs what is not reality is not really pertinent IMO. It's the learning attitude vs one which seeks distraction and sleep or will not temper intuition with rationality. Knowledge IS rationally interpreted experience. If you dwell in fantasy, the imbalance denies opportunity for learning - even though it may SEEM otherwise. It may seem otherwise because when everything is possible, it seems that opportunity is abundant.

Ok, thanks zen, think I understand. So for example my bias could lean too far out of the 'intuition window', lacking the reference of rational thinking.
So rational thinking is not just drawn from consensus thought but has it's roots in the scientific method?

rational thinking is a tool - a psychological faculty which can be either time or spaced based. In time it's "feeling". In space it's "thinking". Feeling=yin, thinking=yang. Consensus reality is knowledge structures wholly derived from rationally evaluated experience. All intuition does is perceive things. It is not capable of evaluation or applying any choices - so there is nothing whatsoever determined from intuition by itself.
The scientific method is a formalized way of using the thinking faculty to rigorously develop and to share new knowledge. Einstein drew heavily on consensus reality as we all necessarily do - that's the planetary mind which we inherit and co-create. Imagination is the creative aspect of intuition, which of course also draws from consensus reality. Einstein used both and being philosophically oriented, he did explain his methods of discovery.