04-01-2013, 06:38 AM
(04-01-2013, 02:31 AM)Ashim Wrote:(03-31-2013, 03:56 PM)Daniel_ Wrote: Wow, this is very fear based stuff. I think accepting these words as truth can be seriously damaging.
I don't feel that it "fits" well into the Ra material or the Hidden hand either. There are lots of contradictions. Also I feel no love in this material, only fear and hopelessness.
When I compare this to other fear-based material (I've read my fair share) I feel it is the same kind of pattern. And I don't really see any reason why to believe this one is the truth.
No one is telling you to believe that this is the truth.
Would you perhaps point out certain passages that you find 'fear based', maybe we could discuss them.
Accepting any words as being truth can obviously be detramental to any entities soul growth, that including the words of Ra.
What exactly did you find so disturbing that you felt compelled to warn the forum about this 'dangerous' material?
For someone familiar with the H_H dialogue I find your attitute a little surprising.
Perhaps my reply came out the wrong way. I don't think anyone should view the Ra material as truth either. I don't, though large parts of it ring true to me. I am surprised that you describe this as excellent fleshing out of the Ra material, when I personally feel that it doesn't really fit very well.
My intention was not to warn the forum, only to express my view. If I were to accept some of the concepts in this material, for me it would be very damaging, maybe not for someone else.
The Hidden Hand dialogue, although more negatively oriented than the Ra material, fits more with it. It goes in to Karma, polarization, different densities, soul groups, the harvest, "All is one" and so on.
I don't whish to get into a big discussion on this material, because I feel it is not for me, but here is a section that I think is a bit strange:
So, when the body of the IS-BE dies they depart from the
body. They are detected by the "force screen", they are
captured and "ordered" by hypnotic command to "return
to the light". The idea of "heaven" and the "afterlife"
are part of the hypnotic suggestion -- a part of the
treachery that makes the whole mechanism work.
After the IS-BE has been shocked and hypnotized to erase
the memory of the life just lived, the IS-BE is
immediately "commanded", hypnotically, to "report" back
to Earth, as though they were on a secret mission, to
inhabit a new body. Each IS-BE is told that they have a
special purpose for being on Earth. But, of course
there is no purpose for being in a prison -- at least
not for the prisoner.
No mention of Karma or polarization. Basically she is saying that we are trapped in a prison that we don't have the "technology" to break through. And that we don't have any meaning or purpose in life.