Indigo-ray body Vs. Sixth-Density

[anagogy]

Right now I am more prone to think that the sixth density Higher Self is not the third density indigo-ray body or the form-maker, because of this quote:

Entrance into incarnation requires the investment or activation of the indigo-ray or etheric body for this is the form maker.

Higher Self doesn't require an investment or activation, cause it is always active...?

Well, technically, in time/space all bodies are in potentiation, so no the Higher Self itself doesn't need to be activated. Space/time bodies are activated or not activated. Manifest or not manifest.

So in my eyes, whenever Ra talks of some kind of "activation" or "investment", I usually interpret that as some sort of space/time investiture. The etheric body or form-maker in space/time is the physical light body of the Higher Self. Remember that time/space doesn't possess the properties of dynamic motion, so to more effectively act on space/time, it must don a space/time body -- the form-maker.

There is also this quote:

In this immobile space the entity has been placed by the form-maker and higher self so that it may be in the proper configuration for learn/teaching that which it has received in the space/time incarnation.

Note that Ra says form-maker AND higher self in the above quote, which I interpret as BOTH, not as in: higher self or form-maker, used synonymously.

And see, I always interpreted that quote to imply they were two sides of the same coin. The same thing in other-words. I've always seen the Higher Self as the time/space component of the space/time form-maker. Though, in certain contexts, described earlier in the thread, Ra refers to a time/space form-maker or etheric body, which in my understanding is synonymous with the time/space analog personality, or Higher Self.

But continue your discussion. It is very intersting!

Now THAT helps, Ankh. 71.6 says it clear as day. Thank you.

Also, just for added clarity: normally when Ra is using words synonymously as in the context of 71.6, they will use the conjunction "or" rather than "and."

This hasn't been my personal experience, but then I interpret a lot of quotes differently than some people do.

For example:

42.12 Questioner: In the last session you said, “that when the self is conscious to a great enough extent of the workings of the catalyst of fasting, and the techniques of programming, it then may through concentration of the will and the faculty of faith alone cause reprogramming without the analogy of fasting, diet, or other analogous bodily complex disciplines.” What are the techniques of programming which the Higher Self uses to insure that the desired lessons are learned or attempted by the third-density self?

Ra: I am Ra. There is but one technique for this growing or nurturing of will and faith, and that is the focusing of the attention. The attention span of those you call children is considered short. The spiritual attention span of most of your peoples is that of the child. Thus it is a matter of wishing to become able to collect one’s attention and hold it upon the desired programming.

This, when continued, strengthens the will. The entire activity can only occur when there exists faith that an outcome of this discipline is possible.

Now many people might interpret this particular quote to mean that will and faith are different things. I, personally, do not. Especially interesting when you look at Ra's explanation of how to grow both at the same time: the focusing of the intention, which appears to simply be an act of will. I think it is most likely that many concepts in the spiritual universe are simply not adequately delineated by the English language, and that will and faith are two sides of the same coin.

Similarly, I see the previous mentioned quote regarding the form-maker and higher self as describing two functions of the same fundamental thing. One a time/space function, the other, a space/time function.

I also found this quotation, which strongly suggests the sub-density architecture I proposed:

48.7
In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity.

Here we have reference to the color bodies within the context of "true color yellow," that is, third density.

Yet another example of something I interpret completely differently.

I interpret that quote to mean that in harvest a merging occurs where the mind/body/spirit complex, in vibrational harmony or attunement with its higher body, the Higher Self, then moves into communion or dialog with the mind/body/spirit complex totality in order to appraise the harvestability of its yellow ray analog into 4th density. When it says,"as in true color yellow", that simply means to me they are appraising the violet ray, or total beingness, of the true color yellow entity. This is most effectively done by the totality complex, since it knows the entire being in its completeness of learning necessary for graduation.

In each density, there is in fact a sub-density color architecture, and these sub-colors do correlate with higher densities. For example, the indigo ray, in true color yellow, is the portion of sixth density light or expression that can express itself in true color yellow, or 3rd density. As another example, the amount of "blue ray" that can be expressed within the confines of the 3rd density reality parameters, is different than the amount of blue ray that can be expressed in higher densities. We are bound by the limit of our viewpoints. Being in a 3rd density environment or reality creates a lot of filters for the universal light.

Having said all this, I'm only interested in the truth here, and not terribly invested in any density/plane architecture. These are just where my sincere interpretations of the material have taken me, and I still feel the evidence, quote wise, is in favor of the idea that the form-maker and higher self are one and the same. But I greatly respect the ideas and concepts presented nonetheless. It is all excellent food for thought.