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    Thread: Ayn Rand Vs. The Law of One


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    03-20-2013, 02:18 AM (This post was last modified: 03-20-2013, 02:21 AM by Adonai One.)
    My 13 year-old-self from a bygone era of atheistic nihilism and rugged individualism compels me to make this comparison. How does this woman's philosophy compare to The Law of One's definition of love? I find myself curious. What are your thoughts on her words in contrast to what we know as love? Is it strictly STS or is there more?

    "To love is to value. Only a rationally selfish man, a man of self-esteem, is capable of love—because he is the only man capable of holding firm, consistent, uncompromising, unbetrayed values. The man who does not value himself, cannot value anything or anyone."

    - From her book The Virtue of Selfishness (Yes, I'm serious. That's the title.)

    "[Selfless love] would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person."

    Playboy Interview: Ayn Rand
    Playboy, March 1964

    "One gains a profoundly personal, selfish joy from the mere existence of the person one loves. It is one’s own personal, selfish happiness that one seeks, earns and derives from love.

    A “selfless,” “disinterested” love is a contradiction in terms: it means that one is indifferent to that which one values.

    Concern for the welfare of those one loves is a rational part of one’s selfish interests. If a man who is passionately in love with his wife spends a fortune to cure her of a dangerous illness, it would be absurd to claim that he does it as a “sacrifice” for her sake, not his own, and that it makes no difference to him, personally and selfishly, whether she lives or dies."


    - The Virtue of Selfishness

    More of her philosophy in tidbits here: http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/love.html

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    Ayn Rand Vs. The Law of One - by Adonai One - 03-20-2013, 02:18 AM
    RE: Ayn Rand Vs. The Law of One - by Marc - 03-20-2013, 03:59 PM
    RE: Ayn Rand Vs. The Law of One - by reeay - 03-20-2013, 04:10 PM
    RE: Ayn Rand Vs. The Law of One - by Adonai One - 03-20-2013, 04:40 PM

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