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    Thread: I do not understand what this means (dream)


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    01-11-2013, 04:21 PM
    (01-10-2013, 06:39 PM)Cameron Wrote: *** Read below ***

    I'm not really sure what to do with this one. There is a reason why I asked people to speak the truth at the beginning of this thread. Empaths are hard to fool, and I find the approach of this distortion to be somewhat questionable. However, since you wish to test my capacity, allow me to address your statements, even though I feel the subject has been addressed already.

    Regarding the tank analogy, the most appropriate response to a threatening tank is forgiveness and love, not indifference or deferance (rolling over).

    Most appropriate response? Says who? You? Some book? I decide these things for myself, thank you. Show it love if you like, I'll show it the moon. I'll even write "with love" across my buttocks.

    Ra in speaking of Jesus confirms in 17.20 that the best approach to anything in the world that threatens your body/mind/spirit complex is forgiveness: "The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self (early in his lifetime) when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.' In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma".

    I believe Jesus could do this because he did not react with aversion to the situation knowing fully well that ‘He’ - his correct identity, was not and cannot be truly threatened. In body/mind/spirit balance he felt love as HE rested in his god-self, and therefore naturally could only express compassion and forgiveness for those whose ignorant actions he knew would cause themselves immense and prolonged suffering.


    I put these together because they basically say the same thing. Jesus did this, so you should do the same. I love how people just throw up the crucifixion and ignore the rest of the story. Let me tell you a little something about jesus, he got nailed to a cross because he was a rebel. He told his teachers,the elders, and all the other powers that be that they were full of it. Remember that little incident in the temple? Flipping over the tables and cursing the moneylenders? Does that sound like the wishy-washy, sit on your hands, and do nothing philosophy you espouse? I call it justice in action. I love it when jesus told the moneylenders where they could stick their gold coins.

    Futher confirmation of the link with balance and the natural response of love:

    42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel any emotional response in being attacked by the other-self?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.


    Further confirmation? Wow, your really trying to prove you are unquestionably correct aren't you? This quote only references the emotional response, not any physical action. Because of love, I would refrain from dropping a cocktail down into the turret. It's not nice to turn people into crispy critters.

    42.5 Questioner: In the illusion that we now experience it is difficult to maintain this response especially if the attack results in physical pain, but I assume that this response should be maintained even through physical pain or loss of life. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and further is of a major or principle importance in understanding, shall we say, the principle of balance. Balance is not indifference but rather the observer not blinded by any feelings of separation but rather fully imbued with love.


    If should restrain my brothers hand, when raised in anger, is this not an act of love? I may suffer/inflict injury in doing so, and may contend with him, but would not the greater crime be to stand back and do nothing? Has it not occurred to anyone that the 4th dimensional beings are imperfect, and on rare occasion, just might be full of it? Question everything. The Creator wants original thinkers, not drones. These real life situations are difficult for a reason, maybe you will have a unique solution the Creator is looking for.

    I understand you were just trying to offer your opinion on what you believe is right, you are just going about it the wrong way. Instead of approaching someone from an authoritarian stance, try to show some consideration for their opinions and approach them with with understanding and love, without the intention of "winning" an argument. When you compete, someone loses, when you cooperate everyone wins. I respect your opinion, you may do nothing when you are faced with a tank, if you wish, but you would have to forgive me for dragging you out of harm's way. No hard feelings over this little bump in the road, I hope.
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    I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-07-2013, 07:41 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Aureus - 01-07-2013, 07:47 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Oceania - 01-07-2013, 08:19 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Ray - 01-07-2013, 06:13 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Aureus - 01-07-2013, 07:46 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Ray - 01-08-2013, 12:37 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by xise - 01-08-2013, 12:14 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Aureus - 01-08-2013, 06:07 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means - by Ray - 01-08-2013, 07:54 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Oceania - 01-08-2013, 12:18 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by xise - 01-08-2013, 12:45 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Oceania - 01-08-2013, 03:04 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Oceania - 01-09-2013, 02:02 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-10-2013, 12:36 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Marc - 01-10-2013, 03:19 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-10-2013, 04:59 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Oceania - 01-10-2013, 03:28 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Marc - 01-10-2013, 06:09 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Cameron - 01-10-2013, 06:39 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-11-2013, 04:21 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Marc - 01-11-2013, 08:11 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-10-2013, 07:09 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-11-2013, 03:06 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Aureus - 01-11-2013, 06:19 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-11-2013, 09:48 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Marc - 01-11-2013, 10:05 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by xise - 01-12-2013, 09:52 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-13-2013, 02:53 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Aureus - 01-13-2013, 08:06 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-13-2013, 09:38 PM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Aureus - 01-12-2013, 11:26 AM
    RE: I do not understand what this means (dream) - by Ray - 01-12-2013, 09:52 PM

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