01-08-2013, 11:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-09-2013, 01:00 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(01-08-2013, 11:10 PM)Pickle Wrote: Knowledge without awareness is used for what? Oh yeah, imitation. This is what school is good for.
LOL- Yes you are right... we need both knowledge and awareness. All I meant was by using the term "more enlightened" I didn't mean "better" or picking one over the other, but rather adding to what was already known.
Quote:Polarization comes before unity.
Yup... that's what I said polarization means a move toward unity... not unity itself. It is the "laying of the foundation" which is the "prelude to choice." (76.16)
Quote:On top of that, many common problems in society are because people do not know how to separate or purify. Harvest can be seen as separating and purifying. Who woulda thought. Don't forget what "distillation" means.
Sure. This is all true... but it pertains to other aspects of spiritual growth than what I was discussing.
Yes- life is like a big alchemical lab. But just like in alchemy, if we confuse one process for another- if we are trying to distill when we need to calcify- or coagulate when we need to dissolve- we will get wrong results.
Quote:Even the start of 3D an individual is not yet truly an individual.
Well, exactly. So then- what makes an individual an individual?
Quote:The work itself is understanding, which then brings integration. We have problems with this because we do not understand others, and we function on belief and surface perception. Anger and judgement from misunderstandings.
Yup.
Quote:LoL! Nobody lacks energy for choice. The only thing that stops someone from "choosing" is fear or apathy. Even an animal can "choose", and many times they do a better job choosing than we do. In fact there are animals that polarize easier than some of us do. Might want to consider just how they do that.
Animals do that by expressing themselves... by being who they are. A cow does not say... maybe I would be better off if I acted more like a chicken.. or perhaps a grasshopper. A lion does not spare the gazelle because that would be the "compassionate" thing for it to do. It just does what it does, and that is that.
Similarly, you and I polarize by expressing ourselves with progressively less distortion. If I tried to be you, or you tried to be me, that probably wouldn't work out so well! Don'tcha think?
Quote:I mean c'mon, is it that hard? Do they really put a lot of effort into "conscious integration"?
I dunno. Maybe animals have an easier time than we do. Look- take a common example. In January, a person swears up and down that this year is going to be the year they commit to exercise, eating healthy, and losing weight. By the time December rolls around, they are fatter, lazier, and sicker than ever before.
If it were so easy to make a choice... then why are people so contradictory to themselves?
Quote:Ha, you might want to put up a bulletin and alert all healers and energy workers that they need to dump their crystals and get magnets.
LOL.. no. Crystals do what they do and magnets do what they do. If your point is that it would be silly to try to use a magnet to do the job of a crystal, then I fully agree. Neither should we use crystals to do the work of magnets. Both literally and metaphorically speaking.
Quote:Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.
YES! So... if we are unconsciously repeating patterns over and over again... where is the will in that? Where is the choice in that?
Quote:52.7 Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming that discipline of the personality, knowledge of self, and control in strengthening of the will would be what any fifth-density entity would see as those things of importance?
Ra: I am Ra. In actuality these things are of importance in third through early seventh densities.
Again, yes exactly. If we already have full use of the will, then why would we need to strengthen it in third through early seventh?
Quote:The only correction in nuance that we would make is your use of the word, control. It is paramount that it be understood that it is not desirable or helpful to the growth of the understanding, may we say, of an entity by itself to control thought processes or impulses except where they may result in actions not consonant with the Law of One.
What sort of actions would you suppose are "not consonant" with the Law of One?
Or let's put it all this way... if what we are here to do is accept and understand each other... then why all the effort to argue with me or shut me down for expressing my opinion of the STS/STO meme? Or looking at polarization from a different angle? Shouldn't others be trying to accept and understand my view, rather than arguing against it? Doesn't my perspective deserve as much consideration as anybody else's?
Heck- it wasn't even my idea to consider polarization of consciousness in terms of magnets. It was Ra's idea! I'm just taking their advice... and suggesting that maybe others take it as well since I personally found value in it. Don asked Ra if there were another way to look at polarization rather than STO/STS, and they said yes... consider magnetic polarization and radiation/absorption. Yet whenever and wherever I bring this up, people swoop in out of the ethers to argue against it.
What's with the stonewalling, anyway? And how does this actually serve anybody?