12-18-2012, 04:44 PM
(12-17-2012, 08:58 PM)spero Wrote:(12-17-2012, 06:25 PM)Daniel_ Wrote:(12-16-2012, 10:00 PM)spero Wrote: was gonna try and explain thought forms but couldnt do it justice lol
heres a link that might help
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16269/162...6269-h.htm
Thanks!
Now I understand a little bit better, but I'm not completely sure I know what role they would play regarding my questions. Do you mean that we sometimes create these things with collective thought forms?
Basically
its likely there is no entity called Lucifer/Devil/Satan and that it is a thoughtform which negative entities (e.g. the orions) energized so they can instill fear and control. by saying this i dont mean that thought forms are imaginary or not real. It depends on the development of the entity generating a thoughform and the number of entities involved (e.g single entities vs social memory complex).
one way of looking at thought forms generated by social complexes or the mass consciousness is as follows
Quote:25.5
...Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things....
An example is when Ra talks about manifesting spacecraft out of thought forms to the ancient egyptians rather than appearing in person
Quote:51.4 Questioner: Why is a vehicle necessary for this transition? When you, as Ra, went to Egypt earlier you used bell-shaped craft, but you did this by thought. Can you tell me why you used a vehicle rather than just materializing the body?
Ra: I am Ra. The vehicle or craft is that thought-form upon which our concentration may function as motivator. We would not choose to use our mind/body/spirit complexes as the focus for such a working.
sometimes the mass consciousness re-manifests these ufo thoughtforms which are real enough to be photographed.
Quote:6.23 Questioner: Photographs of bell-shaped craft and reports of contact of such from Venus exist from less than thirty years ago. Do you have any knowledge of these reports?
Ra: I am Ra. We have knowledge of Oneness with these forays of your time/space present. We are no longer of Venus. However, there are thought-forms created among your peoples from our time of walking among you. The memory and thought-forms created therefrom are a part of your society-memory complex. This mass consciousness, as you may call it, creates the experience once more for those who request such experience. The present Venus population is no longer sixth-density.
It seems easy for me to imagine a scenario whereby a group of negative entities generate a thought form of a god, demon or devil to appear to a populace. These people talk about it, worship it, write books about it, fear it, love it etc and this enters the mass consciousness of our social memory complex. When enough people believe in it and request consciously or subconsciously to experience these thought forms they are regenerated and reinforced.
this is why i suggested thought forms could help explain questions 1-4
That's an interesting perspective that I haven't thought of before. Maybe Lucifer exists as a soul group, but satan or the devil is a thought form. At least interesting to speculate