12-14-2012, 12:12 PM
(12-14-2012, 02:40 AM)anagogy Wrote: To be perfectly honest with you, I've never found much resonance with the Q'uo channelings or any other "conscious state channeling". The qualitative difference I feel in it, intuitively, compared to say, the Law of One material is VAST.
I feel exactly the same way towards any other channeled material except that of Ra. I was just bringing Q'uo for further consideration.
Quote:Only in the dream is consciousness *seemingly* reduced. And I don't even like to say "reduced" because that feels inaccurate to me. Rather, I prefer to say "focused". Again, the consciousness doesn't disappear, the energy just becomes more specific, as opposed to "broad". When you focus on something, your awareness of the surrounding environment decreases but your awareness of what is focused on increases. There is a redistribution of energy. This is how all illusions begin.
Exactly. The One Infinite Creator merely chooses (free-will) a particular kinetic focus (Thought/intelligent energy) wherein to design an illusory matrix to play out a specific form of experience of Itself.
Quote:Even first density matter is "conscious" from my perspective. [...] It just has a different "focus" than we do. In otherwords, it is having real conscious experiences, just not self-aware conscious experiences, because that is a broader and less narrowed down point of view.
Fully agree.
Quote:Even what we call the "unconscious mind" is "conscious" from my perspective. It's just not conscious of the same things the "conscious" mind is. I usually avoid using the word "unconscious" to describe the deeper mind. If I have to, I prefer to say "sub-conscious" because it doesn't carry the implication that is not "aware" of things.
Once again, we share the same notions.
Quote:Having said that, I feel it is somewhat of an oxymoron to describe "infinite intelligence" as "unaware". For me, personally, "infinite intelligence" denotes "awareness" or "consciousness" of an imaginably infinite and exquisite nature. All "unconsciousness" is illusory from my point of view.
For what it's worth, this has always been my perception as well. It was almost a "blasphemy" to even consider INFINITY as "unconscious" (even No-Thing-ness, or the VOID, to me was equal to infinite awareness in its unpotentiated state "prior" to any subsequent distortions). However, very recently, plunging deep into meditation, I have experienced something that I can only describe as an "unaware awareness aware of its unawareness of awareness" (talk about oxymoron), and it was just BEING. Of course, I experience this from within this illusory dream/reality of the finity of INFINITY, and the mere experience of me perceiving this very "BEING" from within the confines of this illusion inevitably yields a distorted experience of that very BEING when attempting to put it into such a limiting context as words.
In other words, perhaps all "consciousness" is indeed the result of INFINITY becoming "aware" (13.6 "I am Ra. Infinity became aware."). Perhaps "BEING" itself is not entirely concomitant with "being aware" (the latter being "born" from that primal impulse or original desire of Intelligent Infinity to know/experience Itself—the 1st distortion called free-will). In other words, perhaps awareness of being is not BEINGness itself, but a result of it (the result of that "awakening" desire to know, to experience). Perhaps the Mystery of Intelligent Infinity cannot be consciously known or experienced with any level of awareness, but it can only be BEING. Or perhaps we are just dabbling with semantics!
This is not to disagree with anything you have said, anagogy. I am just allowing myself the "benefit of doubt," shall we say, as to how sure I am that Intelligent Infinity equals absolute awareness! This is not an attempt to "muddle" thing, but perhaps more of a... sort of challenge, or catalyst, if you will. Either way, it's irrelevant, because there is no non-existence or non-INFINITY. It is nevertheless somewhat amusing to play around with all of this using mere words for concepts!
Quote:Awareness of awareness is the undistorted platform from which all patterns of being arise.
I do concede to you that it is certainly difficult (if not counter-intuitive) to conceive INFINITY as something other than an infinite awareness.
And yet Ra said: "I am Ra. Infinity became aware."
I always found that phrase very intriguing, to say the least.