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    Thread: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare


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    12-08-2012, 01:53 PM
    Quote:As we have previously discussed, the "battle" continues on into 4D. It just changes form and is no longer violent.

    More specifically, the battle's focus turns from our internal selves and instead towards other-selves. In this way, this whole debate/argument has been very 4D in nature; we are battling not over what we do, but rather what others do. In this grand debate, both sides were coming from places of love; one side directing compassion to their enemies and the other warning to not become inconveniently entangled. The problem is that we handled it like a bunch of 3D monkeys Tongue

    one quote from Ra wa coming to me earlier:

    Quote:16.50 Questioner: Thank you. Is it possible for you to give a short description of the conditions in the fourth density?
    Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider as we speak that there are not words for positively describing fourth density. We can only explain what is not and approximate what is. Beyond fourth density our ability grows more limited still until we become without words.

    That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.

    Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

    The reality is that both sides are valid in their concern, and they are both fighting not for themselves but for others. I don't believe Tenet was fearing for his own safety through the groups actions, but rather thought someone in the group might be badly affected by the attempt. That is love for others, shown through Tenet's distortions. The group was attempting to show love to a group most show hate. They, too, were displaying love for others, shown through their own distortions. Our failure was in not recognizing this and not harmonizing this between us all.

    I expect this is early 4D catalyst. We are all going to disagree on how to help and who to help and what to wear while doing it until we can get used to the 'playground' we will soon (or now) find ourselves in. Love and light to everyone. We will turn this all into a learning experience; we must be alchemists of positivity BigSmile
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    Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-07-2012, 04:34 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Cyan - 12-07-2012, 04:37 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-07-2012, 06:14 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by native - 12-08-2012, 02:37 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Spaced - 12-07-2012, 06:16 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Karl - 12-07-2012, 06:57 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by SomaticDreams - 12-07-2012, 09:24 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 03:51 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by SomaticDreams - 12-08-2012, 11:58 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 01:53 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Siren - 12-08-2012, 01:53 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 02:52 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-08-2012, 03:27 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-08-2012, 03:35 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 03:43 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-08-2012, 03:50 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 03:56 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-08-2012, 04:19 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 04:25 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-08-2012, 04:45 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-08-2012, 04:43 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 01:08 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by hogey11 - 12-08-2012, 01:53 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 05:05 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by native - 12-08-2012, 02:05 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-08-2012, 05:26 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Horuseus - 12-08-2012, 05:45 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by native - 12-08-2012, 06:07 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by norral - 12-08-2012, 05:11 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Horuseus - 12-08-2012, 05:22 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by reeay - 12-08-2012, 08:18 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Siren - 12-08-2012, 10:59 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-09-2012, 01:06 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-15-2012, 02:07 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-15-2012, 02:24 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Monica - 12-15-2012, 02:39 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Horuseus - 12-09-2012, 01:39 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by drifting pages - 12-08-2012, 11:23 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-14-2012, 02:11 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-15-2012, 01:50 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-15-2012, 01:41 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Karl - 12-14-2012, 03:27 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-14-2012, 04:06 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Aaron - 12-14-2012, 06:37 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by xise - 12-14-2012, 03:52 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Karl - 12-14-2012, 04:01 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Karl - 12-14-2012, 07:05 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-14-2012, 09:08 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Ankh - 12-15-2012, 09:01 AM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-15-2012, 02:45 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Karl - 12-15-2012, 02:55 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by BrownEye - 12-15-2012, 03:03 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by xise - 12-15-2012, 03:19 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-15-2012, 03:27 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by xise - 12-15-2012, 03:43 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by Tenet Nosce - 12-15-2012, 04:27 PM
    RE: Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare - by reeay - 12-15-2012, 03:33 PM

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