Love as a Weapon / Spiritual Warfare

[SomaticDreams]

It isn't about controlling the love, it is about whether or not there is an intention to control the recipient to create a specific outcome. There may or may not be such an intention with the sending of love. For beings of the same polarity, there is probably little negative effect, even if rejected. For beings of opposite polarity, the interactions are somewhat different.

If we are to have an 'intention to control the recipient to create a specific outcome, then do we not have to control the manner in which we channel the love? If distorted thought forms filter our love in the form of service, is that not how love is 'channeled' or 'controlled' in your mind? Or does this occur some other way?

Who among us has not been offered love? Love does not cause harm. Distorted thought forms about love do. People try to "control" each other with love all the time. It's rather commonplace behavior.

Hence why I said entities who are highly unfamiliar or uncomfortable with energy. Being offered something once does not give much choice if rejected. Offering open love constantly gives more chances for a possible recipient. I never claimed it wasn't common place, the questions are a way of probing how you conceptualize these concepts.

I don't believe that I said it should be stopped. I was simply drawing attention to what I perceive it to be. And pointing out other options.

When we seek to control others with love, problems ensue. Really... is this news to anybody here? I don't think this is a new idea to anybody.

I believe you are trying to appear as if you have no vested interest in stopping this practice- although you have repeatedly made your points and said this practice was disturbing. Pointing out other options is fine, but it indicates that you are pointing to these alternative practices as preferable because they make sense to you. What I am trying to point out is that they do not make logical sense, depending on how you define such terms of love, free will, and the transmission of energy.

Maybe you are looking for a deeper point than there really is. Or perhaps you just misread the post. It is about the wisdom of trying to control others with love- not the wisdom of trying to control love.

What I am talking about here is the potential unforeseen consequences of groups consciously sending love energy to negative entities. Such groups are free to do as they will. And no doubt they will.

Then there are those who might decide to try out some of the other options.

I'm not 'looking for a deeper point', but trying to understand how you conceptualize the concepts. It's clear that the disagreement stems from our preconceived and tacit understandings of such concepts such as love, transmission of energy and free will. This is not necessarily deeper, just illuminating the foundations of your thought-process. If we continue to use such terms, people end up simply saying "We agree to disagree" because they do not want to take the time or energy to probe the structures of their thought. The symbolic universe we live in changes once these deepest notions and preconceptions are opened up- e.g. the reading of the Ra material offers a monistic/pantheistic viewpoint that many westerners are not used to. The implications of changing the fundamental ontology of a person's symbolic universe is vast. This is why I'm curious to your specific definitions of these concepts. Otherwise, we will simply get no where because the misunderstandings will continue without making them explicit.

"It is about the wisdom of trying to control others with love- not the wisdom of trying to control love." Specifically, my post was a way of showing you that what you are implying is that in order to try and control others with love, an entity must have a way of controlling love itself, channeling the various ways it is able to be manifested. This implies that love is a universal energy field that is channeled through an entity and manifested in particular behavior actions or thought-forms. Is this possible?- or is it that love is 'created' or 'found within' a being and that being has to eliminate all of it's distortions in able to express that love? Is it that being's responsibility? etc etc

From the ontology arises an ethical system. Out of this we may more clearly understand your position. That's all I'm looking for, is clarity. You say these concepts but it's quite clear everyone has their own notions. I'm simply interested in yours. I don't even particularly disagree with most of what you say, it's just that how your explaining it now is muddled with preconceptions/tacit understandings that are not made clear.