Quote:Fully activated 4D body? You wont discover it unless you're in one.
I see it more as people start having 'weird babies' who have certain body organs missing or turned off and show signs of '4D skills' at an early age. Maybe they'll find their DNA is different or structured in a novel fashion. At some point in the cohabitation period, the transitional population is going to become aware of a 'new breed', no? If we cohabitate, why would it be impossible for 3D entities to perceive a difference between them and these new incarnates?
Quote:You mean when will there be an overt presence of dual-activated types?
In my own perception, I see overt dual-activated people already all around me. I think as we speak the majority of souls on this planet are either transitionals or wanderers...
Quote:At the end of the transition period of 100 to 700 years.
Which is not an accurate window due to our 'volatility'
Quote:Who said it wasn't?
I meant '4D experience' as the start of the transition period. That's kinda the point I was trying to make (semantics may have failed me) - the transition period started in 1936, which means 'full 4D' can really happen anytime that circumstances allow. Now, by saying that i'm not saying that it will be any different than Ra's estimation, but Ra also seemed pretty motivated to tell us that we're complete wildcards in respect to harvest. They could only speak to the current day and state of things.
@Guardian
Quote:What makes you think you have skipped over lessons? How many lifetimes have you had learning lessons?
I have no idea how many lifetimes i've lived! I said that as I believe if i'm not a native 3D, I would probably fit most closely to a 4D wanderer. Before 5D, the necessity for battle remains, so in the context of bending over for the STS and 'showing them love', I would be hindering my lessons in aiding other-selves as far as being aware of the the opposite polarity from which I follow. There is a time and place for those lessons (5D and beyond).
So if I were to act as if I were a 5D entity but I am not, I am trying to skip over lessons I have not yet mastered. I don't believe I should abandon 'the fight' until i'm evolved enough to call for such action. Until then, there is much to learn through the catalyst
@zen
Quote:Ra said "will be"...as in future tense? Seems rather straightforward.
'will be' is not the same as 'begins'. It doesn't mean there could not have been a rise beforehand as well.
Quote:Well certainly camps can be repurposed and the spirit of any law can be changed to suit those in power. But realistically, nothing is going to happen socially that hasn't been asked for.
This is where I think the 'quiet horror' might surprise us all as far as planetary polarity goes. I think there may be more asking for something resembling a 4D paradigm than we may realize.