Abrupt vs gradual harvest

[zenmaster]

Yes, because the 4th density conditions have not even begun.

How are you so sure that the increase in negativity they referred to isn't what we have been seeing between 1936 up until "full instreaming"? Seems like a large uptick in negativity to me...

Ra said "will be"...as in future tense? Seems rather straightforward.

If you are correct, what does this mean on a group level? How long do you think the increase in negativity will last? Should positive entities be concerned about a further consolidation of power and control by negative entities?

I don't know. My guess is until a certain amount of 4D mind is established and 3D energies have waned. I doubt anyone can do anything about it - these are ethical decisions after all. Further, as far as I can tell, the newly 4D are extremely naive.

There is a lot of chatter about plans for false flag attacks, martial law, detention of Americans in FEMA camps, etc. What is your take on all this? Pure paranoia? Or is there some legitimate concern? If so, to what degree?

Well certainly camps can be repurposed and the spirit of any law can be changed to suit those in power. But realistically, nothing is going to happen socially that hasn't been asked for.

For those of positive polarization, do you think it will be possible to assimilate the "new awareness" and enjoy a greater ease of life and more leisure time, even as the negativity increases in the external world?

Of course.

The vibration which support that condition of mind, yes.

Any specific recommendations as to how to access that vibration?

You have no choice but to access that vibration, as it becomes the dominant influence which supports and informs the planetary mind.

It's just the green-ray vibration. You are already familiar with it as it exists on a personal and transpersonal level. Personally, that vibration was effectively supported by your mind complex.

The only thing that changes is that the vibration now is planetary as well, and experienced in relatively undistorted form (solar logos) until society participates with it and builds "the 4D sphere".

Would it even be wise for a 3D entity to do so? Would interacting with those high vibrations have a detrimental effect on the 3D body complex?

No it doesn't have a detrimental effect on the 3D body whatsoever. The fully activated 4D body, which is grounded in 3D, is what has a detrimental effect on the 3D body.

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So if we go down the gradual path without any form of 'tipping point' or abrupt moment to it, how do you think we're going to 'discover' the first 4D body? What will be our reaction?

Fully activated 4D body? You wont discover it unless you're in one.

How much time after 4D entities start incarnating here will it take for us to notice it happening?

You mean when will there be an overt presence of dual-activated types?

In other words, when do transitional bodies stop incarnating?

At the end of the transition period of 100 to 700 years.

Come December 21st, 2012 (or some other symbolic date), will all the transitionals start incarnating as pure 4D?

Of course not.

Will the full 4D entities starting to incarnate only be witnessed by transitionals or will there be any full 3D types left by the time that happens?

3D and 4D coexist visible to each during the first part of transition period.

I'm having a hard time believing early 4D experience is not already underway...

Who said it wasn't?