12-04-2012, 04:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2012, 04:47 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
Quote:the 'harvest process' of removing the tares of negativity by the 'angels' begins
The 'harvest process' has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING do to with "removing the tares of negativity." Zip. Zero. Zilch. It has everything to do with walking the steps of light.
The question here is whether "life as we know it" will be suddenly interrupted- while in progress- for everybody to walk the steps of light, or whether this will only occur upon death of 3D entities.
This is not a matter of "Tenet's Interpretation versus David's Interpretation." It is a matter of what Ra actually said, or didn't say. Period.
David Wilcock has been blatantly misrepresenting the Ra Material for almost twenty years. Yet, I am cast as the "attacker" for pointing out what they actually said and he is in need of "defense" for his persistent misrepresentation of the Ra Material to millions of people? Hmmm.... interesting twist there....
(12-04-2012, 04:23 PM)hogey11 Wrote: 'Doing battle' is still an integral part of 4D experience and catalyst. The battle does not end until 6D where we all coalesce into the creator regardless of polarity. Until that point, 'fighting the fight' is a perfectly valid set of lessons for any entity. The question is how aware are you of yourself and your opponent.
Yes, it is a perfectly valid set of lessons. But it is not- by one iota- a valid cosmology.
The bottom line is that any student of the Ra Material (whether 3D native or Wander from any higher density) should already know the reality of the situation.
Therefore, what is the purpose in persisting with this false dichotomy? To add confusion? No. I say the proper response is to seek the wisdom to refrain from battle. This wisdom is available to us, right here, right now. We do not need to wait until 5D to accept this wisdom, or to put it into practice.
To the contrary, if we don't put it into practice we will continue to kill each other in perpetual wars. That is because the act of war is entirely predicated upon the distortion of enemy/ally.
Quote:The problem we have faced in this 3D arena is that our enemy is obscured from us. Our enemy is invited to confuse us and to misrepresent both themselves and their opponents.
No. The problem in the 3D arena is that we have been presented with the distortion of having an enemy, and we continue to persist in supporting this illusion despite actually knowing better. Thus, we reinforce the distortion instead of balancing it.
Quote:This changes in 4D in that the intentions become clear, but the fight does not leave. In fact, i'm sure it probably becomes even more intense in many ways.
77.15 Wrote:Questioner: The specific question that I had was that it seems to me that the choice was planned to create intense polarization past third density so that experience would be intense past third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. Given that our interpretation of your sound vibration complexes is appropriate, this is incorrect. The intensity of fourth density is that of the refining of the rough-hewn sculpture. This is, indeed, in its own way, quite intense causing the mind/body/spirit complex to move ever inward and onward in its quest for fuller expression. However, in third density the statue is forged in the fire. This is a type of intensity which is not the property of fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh densities.
Quote:Doesn't this criticism ignore the fact that planetary groups can polarize one way or another tho?
There is no group polarization in 3D. Only individual polarization. That's why it is a mixed environment.
Quote:control of that sphere and inhibiting the STS
Control is the tool of negative polarization. It is not our place to "inhibit" STS. Why would we want to do that? Sounds like negative polarization to me.
Quote:That's why I feel the onset of the 4D sphere will be aided with a clearing of confusion in some way (a removal, if you will). Once the obstacles are no longer in place, the planet can start to grow into what it is supposed to become.
Yes, I agree. But what does any of this have to do with harvest?