12-01-2012, 05:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-01-2012, 05:03 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Shin'Ar! I feel moved to respond directly to these specific parts:
I found in my experience during an ayahuasca trip that one must "descend" to the planetary core before "ascending" into the higher realms. And yes, on the journey to the core one must pass through areas of dark thought-forms that might appear "hellish" to the uninitiated.
But in speaking to the Christian/Biblical framework that we are discussing... I believe this judgement around "descending" is more than just an error in thought, but an attempt at deliberate manipulation of people by causing them to have fear about any sort of "descending" motion they might encounter in meditation, or while in the astral state.
I imagine this might have something to do with why these activities (meditation and astral travel) have become serious taboo to many Christians.
(12-01-2012, 11:15 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Hell is the evolution of this process and has become many things to many people, but is always associated with the idea of one's soul being somehow sent into a descent, rather than an ascension.
Quote:Hell is thought, by those who perceive the inability to ascend, either into a Christian heaven or a higher Being, to be a place of the opposite, which would be a descent rather than an ascent.
I found in my experience during an ayahuasca trip that one must "descend" to the planetary core before "ascending" into the higher realms. And yes, on the journey to the core one must pass through areas of dark thought-forms that might appear "hellish" to the uninitiated.
But in speaking to the Christian/Biblical framework that we are discussing... I believe this judgement around "descending" is more than just an error in thought, but an attempt at deliberate manipulation of people by causing them to have fear about any sort of "descending" motion they might encounter in meditation, or while in the astral state.
I imagine this might have something to do with why these activities (meditation and astral travel) have become serious taboo to many Christians.