11-23-2012, 09:44 AM
(11-22-2012, 08:33 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Funny, from my perspective, you aren't understanding my points at all, and in fact don't even bother to respond to them (as I do yours). So I guess we can just call it even!
Misunderstanding IS the culprit to be sure, and another of the complexities of which I speak which must also be taken into consideration when trying to discern the whole rationale around this subject which perplexes you so.
(11-22-2012, 08:33 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: You wonder why I took offense, then proceed to list numerous misconceptions about me, my views, and even whether my efforts are doing any good, to the point of saying I'm making it worse
That would be my fault I'm afraid, in that I have a bad habit of using the word 'you' when I am speaking in generalizations. if you replace most of those incidences with the word 'one' or 'some' or 'others' you will see what I mean.
(11-22-2012, 08:33 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If you are truly interested in my views on that subject, you will find them if you search. I've already discussed that subject previously.
I am now politely declining any further discussion with you. Have a good day, Shin'Ar!
If I was not interested in your thoughts on the matter why would I bother to have made some of the elaborate attempts at addressing them as I just did, and have in the past?
You are probably right in that we should avoid discussion I guess, as we seem to be incompatible in that regard on issues which you are emotionally charged.
I concede to the higher priority of your well being and wish you well.
Maybe one day these things which I have pointed you toward will suddenly click and you might recall it then as my being fully engaged and interested, as well as helpful.
Good day to you Monica, and I mean that.
I will try to sum up my thoughts without actually discussing with anyone in particular so as to avoid hurt feelings and personal insult being taken mistakenly.
And I will try to make it very simple to avoid confusion and misinterpretation.
First of all, I think that there is a very small portion of humanity which has an agenda of feeding their selfish desires. And such have a powerful influence and role in the ways of this world. They are literally the echelon of humanity in the sense that they control much of the human experience on this planet. And do so in a very devious and manipulative manner so as not to be challenged in ways that can actually burden their efforts.
Secondly, much of how we act and react to social incidences is very much under their influence and manipulation. Rebellions and civil uprising and protest is often the result of such manipulation and orchestrated for reasons beneficial to their gain at our expense.
This world in which we live is subject to many social ills which are the result of many differing cultures and ways of life that often clash and are incompatible. When such is exaggerated and also used against us as a tool for selfish gain, and we simply fall into line with such manipulation in total ignorance of its influences, the normal aspects of human incompatibilities are increased many times more.
One of the greatest weapons that the 'system' will have in their arsenal is man's bias toward having things go their way, having their definitions of right and wrong justified and enforced/imposed, and becoming very sensitive to having their beliefs stepped on by another.
Such sensitivity and bias opens the door to extremism and emotional dysfunction, such as we see in many incidences in this very community, as people attempt to put forth their own thoughts and opinions on matters that concern them, exaggerated greatly if those concerns are dear to heart.
What happens is that we fall victim to the manipulation of selfish interests who now use our emotional distortions to their own gain. They pit us against each other, and they really have no interest in the actual issues themselves, and often switch back and forth from one to the other, just for the sake of keeping a problem alive so they can continue to use it for themselves.
This truth should be very obvious right here, showing how quickly a simple discussion on diet choices which should be afforded to each of us according to our own tastes and free choices, can develop into a circumstance where common sense falls victim to emotional discharge.
Such can be dismissed as making a mountain out of a mole hill, but doing so does not address the very real issue of how such ease of conflict could easily be used against us by any who would choose to apply a little manipulative cleverness.
The fact that many of us do ignore such truth, and do dismiss such as 'hype' frenzy, is exactly why the 'system' is able to continue to get away with such treachery against humanity.
Simply, our participation and tolerance of it, along with much total ignorance of it, enables it to continue in mass proportions to degrees where our entire world experience is a result of it in most of the 'civilized' world.
So, is it wrong for people like Monica who has a good heart and feels for the suffering to react in her way?
Not at all. Every action of compassion is a positive alteration of the distortion of negativity, and a vibration which enhances our planet and evolves humanity as a whole. I never visit any of my favorite haunts without leaving a small gift for the others who share those places with me, not just for their sake, but because I understand how positive vibrations are created in such actions and offerings which enchant the planet a little more each time.
I commend and support every act or decency and compassion.
And included in the definition of such is tolerance offered toward others to express themselves in this world according to their own views and opinions. Even though I may not agree with those views and practices, it is essential that I afford them the same freedom which I afford myself. This often involves a great deal of concession and compensation, and self sacrifice in many cases so that the many can benefit rather than the few.
This does not mean that we should not stand up for what we believe, or speak out our thoughts on matters. It is in such sharing of thoughts and opinions that higher understanding is achieved and many social ills relieved and even alleviated. Sharing of information is the Divine Design of The All.
But in doing so we must strive to remind ourselves that The All is not just 'I'. It is ALL of us. If we respond in a manner whereby we begin to expect our opinions to be accepted and acted upon according to our understanding and definition, we open the door to both, those who would use that opportunity to enrage and engage, as well as our own emotionally charged responses which can lead to acts of extremity.
And this we see around the world in many circumstances.
Right now, in the Middle East, we have two sides who both believe that they have a god-given right to claim a piece of the Earth as their own, and because it is a very emotional belief, it becomes extreme in observance and practice.
And yet, even if it were possible for those two sides to manage to come to some agreement, it is easily hijacked by others who would not be in favor of such an agreement and will use those emotions to manipulatively manage a continuance of the argument.
Suggesting that such comparison has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of meat eating vs. vegetarianism, or compassion toward the suffering of animals, simply contributes to the same ignorance which is just another tool in that arsenal of the elites and the terrorists.
For those which cannot see the comparison, or deliberately choose to ignore it because they do not want to bother with such complex issues, I point out that such ignorance and tolerance simply plays right into the overall problem. And that is my most vital point. We cannot solve the problem of headaches by beating our heads on a brick wall.
Until we begin to address the issue of the wall being brick, and that methods are taken by many to cause the head beating against it, the headaches will continue, from one extreme or another.
But if mankind suddenly begins to gnaw at the root, the whole plant will become weakened and actual beneficial changes will begin to occur, and manipulations will become much more difficult.
I say, be aware, be honest, be calculating and intelligent, and above all, be understanding of the whole rather than imposing.
I say there is much more to consider if we really care about making a difference.
Take up your pickets if you choose, but when you do that in full knowledge that you are actually serving the agenda of a much more powerful force, and are probably even damaging the very cause you are attempting to battle, do so knowing that the positive vibrations you seek are not being realized to the degree which they would if you acted in understanding and knowledge instead.
And if all you really care about is having the loudest voice and making others hear you, than how are you any better than those whom you rebel against?
Understanding!
Balance!
Extremism!
Take those three factors into account in all that you do and you will begin to see results that make a difference for the All.

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