Turkey Day 2012!

[Monica]

I'm just curious. After 3000+ posts on this issue (meat consumption and animal cruelty), what is the point of these discussion? How is it benefiting all of us in terms of being in touch with this catalyst?

How is this entire forum benefiting any of us?

It has a similar energy of the cancer thread. Challenging status quo and pushing ideologies/beliefs as morally superior.

Ah, I assume you're referring to Tenet and I getting a bit technical. Sorry about that! We kinda got on a roll and were enjoying the discussion. I guess we forgot that others might wonder what we were talking about!

Or, did you mean you felt uncomfortable with the discussion of alternative treatments? Is that what you thought came across as "morally superior?"

Let's say we had a member, Miss Z, who had a beautiful, intelligent, normal child who was learning to talk. But then this child became severely autistic immediately after being vaccinated. Miss Z was devastated! She told the doctors what happened, but they insisted that the autism had nothing to do with the vaccines, so a few years later Miss Z had her younger child vaccinated, and the same thing happened. So she had started out with 2 normal, healthy children and now she had 2 severely autistic children who required constant supervision. By ages 8 and 10, respectively, neither of them could talk or even use the potty by themselves. Miss Z couldn't leave them alone for even a moment. She couldn't leave them with a babysitter. Her marriage fell apart because of the stress, so now she had even more struggles. She was on the verge of collapse but could never allow herself any rest.

Then, just when she felt so overwhelmed she didn't think she'd survive, she got an answer to her prayers. A high school friend looked her up on facebook, they got to talking, and it turned out the old friend also had an autistic child. But, her child was now doing much better! She told Miss Z what had worked for her, and Miss Z utilized those alternative healing methods immediately. Within 1 week, both of her children were speaking in sentences instead of grunting, and both could use the potty by themselves. They were still autistic, but their behavior improved so dramatically that they were now manageable and could have a good quality of life. They continued to improve over time.

Excited and grateful, Miss Z wanted to 'pay it forward,' so she posted her discoveries on facebook, and joined an online discussion forum, where she shared the miracle! She hoped to reach other young mothers before they made the same mistakes she had made. She told them of the corruption in the drug industry, and how she had been misled into thinking vaccines were safe. She told them of the alternative healing methods she'd used to heal her children.

Most of the other parents didn't believe her. After all, she was just a mom, not a doctor, and their doctors had reassured them that vaccines were safe! But, a few did believe her, and thanked her for sharing her story. Several of the parents who had autistic children tried her methods, and their children dramatically improved! Their heartfelt gratitude made it all worthwhile, despite the ridicule Miss Z received for challenging the status quo.

Now, here is a question for you: Was Miss Z "morally superior" for sharing her story and seeking others who might be looking for answers, just as she had been before? Was she wrong in wishing to 'pay it forward?'

Or else, why this level of emotional charge?

Oh that's easy. The emotional charge comes from watching a single video of what goes on in a factory farm. You might try it and see! One needn't have experience with torture to get an emotional charge from watching an entity get tortured.