(11-21-2012, 08:19 PM)Pickle Wrote: A turkey is just a life taken for pleasure.
Exactly.
Ra stated "animal products to the extent necessary for individual metabolism." Much of the argument in the meat threads had to do whether the human body needs meat. This thread is about a different topic: How does celebrating a holiday with overindulgence of a dead animal fit that description? And, is there any special significance to this action, given that it's November 2012?
(11-21-2012, 08:19 PM)Pickle Wrote: Of course, it would be easier ignored if they were given to the needful in Gaza.
Most definitely true!
(11-21-2012, 08:19 PM)Pickle Wrote: But then in Isreal and Gaza brutality is part of their culture. Any way i look at it, conditions there will not change until the culture decides to change.
Yes and no. Yes, ultimately they have to change. But, we are all One. Our attitudes towards their violence does affect them. We all affect one another, to some extent. What I find reprehensible is the common attitude here in the US that the Palestinians "deserve it" because "they messed with Israel" when what they're really saying is that Israel is "God's chosen" so they can do whatever they want, since, after all, "God" told them to invade their neighbors, steal their land, and slaughter all the people, leaving no survivors, not even children. It's built into not just their culture, but in ours as well!
It is our culture I have issues with...the Christian community who blindly sides with Israel, with absolutely zero compassion for the Palestinians, because Israel is "God's chosen" and Israel can invade Palestine because they are "descendants of Ishmael" (read: going to hell anyway) and Palestine is "evil" for daring to defend themselves. My fundamentalist Christian sister actually said, and I quote: "That's what they get for messing with Israel. If they had read their Bible they'd know God favors Israel."
She also said, and I quote: "They are evil." See? A whole nation of people summarily dismissed as "evil." The children? Evil. After all, that's why "God" wanted the Israelites to wipe them out - they were the "spawn of evil"!! No attempt to see the other point of view. No attempt to be fair. No compassion for all those children cowering in fear their entire lives. "They're evil because they didn't believe the bible." Like they're supposed to just say "Go ahead and rape us...we understand you are superior."
Can you believe people still think this way?
It's one of the worst examples of the old testament being used to justify hatred, bigotry and violence.