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    Thread: Turkey Day 2012!


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    11-21-2012, 08:18 PM (This post was last modified: 11-22-2012, 01:51 PM by Monica.)
    (11-21-2012, 07:38 PM)ShinAr Wrote: But you do realize that the negative vibrations that may be caused by eating turkey on Thanksgiving is probably miniscule compared to the millions of other negative issues which are all taking place daily all over the world, and many far more horrendous than the eating of turkey.

    Firstly, I emphatically disagree that it's miniscule. It's actually the opposite! There are literally millions - millions! - of late 2D entities being abused and tortured every single day. 72 million, to be exact, in the US alone. Now we're in the many billions of animals suffering, worldwide, every single day.

    This site puts it all into perspective. It covers only cows, pigs and chickens, totaling 58 billion per year. That's not counting the turkeys.

    58 BILLION. That's 58,000,000,000 (if my math is correct).

    http://www.wfad.org/treatment.htm

    While some enjoy a good life on a traditional farm, with rapidly growing corporate farming methods, the vast majority of those live their short lives in deplorable, miserable conditions, to the point that they live their lives in a state of constant torture.

    No, that is most definitely not miniscule!

    The only argument in favor of it being miniscule is if one believes animals have no worth...that only humans have worth.

    Secondly, it's not about the eating. It's about knowingly supporting the suffering of the turkeys and other animals.

    That's been covered extensively in the meat threads. My point with this thread was specifically about focusing on a carcass, while celebrating, with full awareness of how that animal was tortured, 1 month before 12-21-12. Doesn't anyone else see this as contradictory? I mean, even those who think eating animals is 'ok' doesn't this trigger even a teeeeeeny tiny twinge of...something? I mean, how does supporting such suffering in any way fit into the mindset of approaching a sacred, holy time consciously and with our best efforts to prepare for whatever may transpire?

    We might not see anything happen on that day...or we might. But at the very least, is it not a special day? Is not the turning of the 75,000-year season something to approach consciously, and as peacefully, lovingly as possible? How does blithely biting into the carcass of an entity who was tortured even remotely approach any sort of attitude of spiritual sacredness in observance of this rather special event?

    (11-21-2012, 07:38 PM)ShinAr Wrote: If we're going to concern ourselves with negative vibrations, and that is a worthwhile cause to be sure, why are we talking turkey?

    I am absolutely certain that the people living in Israel and Gaza would probably be wondering why the heck we are attempting to heal the world's distortion by saving turkeys while their loved ones are being murdered and their cities blown to pieces.

    Anyone who knows me on facebook knows that I post a lot about the Israel/Gaza conflict, Obama's drones, and other senseless acts of human violence. Thank you for not assuming that animal activists aren't also involved in many other causes as well.

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    Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-14-2012, 10:10 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Ruth - 11-15-2012, 10:16 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by norral - 11-15-2012, 11:30 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Diana - 11-15-2012, 02:05 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-15-2012, 04:57 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Ruth - 11-15-2012, 06:58 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-15-2012, 07:03 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by reeay - 11-15-2012, 08:09 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Ruth - 11-15-2012, 10:41 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Avocado - 11-15-2012, 11:59 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Bring4th_Austin - 11-21-2012, 07:18 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-21-2012, 07:35 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-21-2012, 07:38 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-21-2012, 08:18 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-22-2012, 10:19 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-22-2012, 01:07 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-21-2012, 08:19 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-21-2012, 08:36 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by reeay - 11-21-2012, 10:39 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by hogey11 - 11-22-2012, 12:35 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Jeremy - 11-22-2012, 10:54 AM
    Revenge of the Turkeys - by Eddie - 11-22-2012, 11:30 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by reeay - 11-22-2012, 03:09 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-22-2012, 03:51 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-22-2012, 07:14 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Diana - 11-22-2012, 03:11 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-22-2012, 07:45 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-22-2012, 08:33 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-23-2012, 09:44 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Plenum - 11-22-2012, 08:50 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-22-2012, 08:53 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by reeay - 11-22-2012, 09:56 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-23-2012, 02:39 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-22-2012, 11:43 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Oceania - 11-23-2012, 04:51 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-23-2012, 07:19 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Oceania - 11-23-2012, 08:10 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-23-2012, 04:55 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-24-2012, 10:48 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-24-2012, 11:20 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-25-2012, 08:52 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Monica - 11-25-2012, 11:01 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by Shin'Ar - 11-26-2012, 08:27 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by norral - 11-23-2012, 10:43 AM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-23-2012, 10:55 PM
    RE: Turkey Day 2012! - by BrownEye - 11-27-2012, 04:22 PM

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