11-18-2012, 07:24 PM
(11-18-2012, 07:03 PM)unir 1 Wrote:Asking for "disclosure" is the same as asking for intervention. The "empowerment" idea makes no sense.(11-18-2012, 04:30 PM)hogey11 Wrote: What unnecessary problem am I creating?
I never said anything about intervention. I am talking of empowerment...
(11-18-2012, 07:03 PM)unir 1 Wrote: I think he's talking about those who are in farther of the octave, or at least farther than us in 3rd Density progression, and for us intending to have them intervene.I'm talking about 4D intervention.
"It would inevitably prolong our development and diminish our unique contributions" - zenmaster
(11-18-2012, 07:03 PM)unir 1 Wrote: As far as I know, the opportunities are there due to the mentality of the individual and they are always pertaining to the choices one has made consciously. I agree that calling for contact may not have been a choice (supposing we are visited after a global calling is achieved) by the individual, but how far out of historical "changes" is it?Can you clarify this?
(11-18-2012, 07:03 PM)unir 1 Wrote: We've had revolutions that some people did not want or support, yet others did and enough so to change the culture. Would you consider that example as having prolonged our development, or am I misunderstanding this?Prolong development by making choices for others and denying essential learning opportunities. Revolutions can be a good catalyst for experience and could also deny conditions for learning appropriate for balancing current distortions.
(11-18-2012, 07:03 PM)unir 1 Wrote: About the spiral dynamics, can anyone tell me how they set it up to begin at the 100,000 years-ago date? That would be the beginning of third density on Earth, wouldn't it?I think very simply by referring to the historical records of evidence for the first modernish humans (Homo sapiens) - whenever that was.