(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: What about coffee? It's very high in antioxidants!
I dunno. I'm not a coffee drinker so I've actually never tested it. I do know there are some popular 'antioxidant' coffee products available these days, which claim to be healthier than regular coffee, which has a lot of tannins, I think it was.
I just know that coffee, in moderation, doesn't interfere with the water, provided they drink a pint of water first thing in the morning and don't drink so much coffee that it displaces the water.
Coffee drinkers report spending only half as much on coffee, because they use only have the coffee beans to get the same strength, when the brew it with this water. And, it supposedly tastes better...less bitter.
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: LOL... don't have any (yet).
Aw...
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: BUT... you can rent a pretty decent place for about $200 a month. Also, homes start at about $30K for something most Americans would consider acceptable. Nothing fancy, of course.
Good to know! We're pretty rooted where we are, but...good to know.
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Any in Michigan?
I just did a search and didn't find any. But I'm sure there are distributors. I'll see what I can do. We help each other out! I recently gave water for 2 months to a lady who had leukemia, fibromyalgia, and all sorts of other disorders...very very sick. She was in a lot of pain. I gave her water on behalf of another distributor out of state. She got great results and then bought the machine from him, as expected. I knew all along there was nothing in it for me, but I treated her the same as I would have any of my own. We help each other out. (Of course, not all distributors have good ethics...but most of us do.)
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Yeah... every now and again I have to cut a client loose because they seem unwilling to do the inner work, and place too much expectation on the outer stuff....
So finally she decides to cancel her follow up appointment, because she is "concerned" about the NAC, and plus all of a sudden she thinks she is spending too much money on supplements. Mind you, the primary reason she came in was for gut issues, which were improving.
My take is... she started the healing process and some very uncomfortable catalyst came up for clearing and it freaked her out. But what am I to do? I don't have the inclination to chase these people around. Besides, what can I really do besides, "wish them love, light, peace, joy, and bid them well."
I can so totally commiserate!!! I often have to remind people that nothing is added to this water. There's nothing in it that could make them sick. So if they are experiencing discomfort, it's something that was already in their bodies that got stirred up.
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Yes that's true, but, "The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases." That's some pretty serious stuff there! I wonder what possessed them to think that "domination unto the physical death" was an appropriate way to deal with other-selves...
Yeah, right? I got the impression from Ra that that was an extreme, rare case.
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Yeah, I remember that story. Glad you made it out alive!
I almost didn't. Which reminds me of another example of authoritarian alternative practitioners. The Reams practitioner who told me being dependent on enemas and colonics for the rest of my life was "better than being toxic" - keeping in mind I was the ripe old age of 22, and my only complaint was sinus headaches and PMS! - also told me to drink distilled water for the rest of my life.
Doing all that colon cleansing undoubtedly weakened my system and made me susceptible to getting depleted later. After I got off the colon cleansing, I did ok for about 5 years...while drinking basic filtered water. Then I got a distiller, and it was a couple of years after that, that I started having problems. I still can't believe how stupid I was, to not make the connection!
I was so locked into the belief that "distilled water was the best because it's the cleanest" as taught to me by her, that I just never really considered that my problems were either caused or, at the very least, exacerbated by it. I suffered for over a decade! Trying all sorts of things, before realizing that the distilled water was leaching my minerals. This, despite a few people trying to tell me. (Though, keep in mind we didn't have internet back then.)(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: But if I recall, you were going buck wild with the distilled water, no? We still use our distiller, but add the minerals back into it. I can't drink plain distilled water anyway, it makes me thirsty!
I did drink a lot...about a gallon per day. I thought I was doing something healthy! But yes, the more I drank, the more thirsty I got! (That should have been a clue!) My mouth was perpetually dry.
After a few years, I did pay attention to those who said it leached minerals, so I thought I was really smart by adding ionic minerals back in. I figured, "I'll start with the cleanest, purest water then add minerals back in, so I'm covered."
Wrong. It didn't help!
Maybe you're getting away with it because you have a strong constitution, and aren't drinking that much, and have been adding minerals back in all along. Maybe if I had added minerals back in from the beginning I wouldn't have had problems. Maybe if I hadn't done all that colon cleansing I would have been ok with it. Who knows? I just know that when I got off the distilled water, I at least quit sliding downhill. I still didn't get better though, because, remember, I bought a competitor machine first...had it for 2 1/2 years...never noticed anything with it one way or the other. But at least it had to have been better than the distilled water. It didn't halt other problems though...I still developed the sharp pain, my dog went blind and deaf and developed arthritis...those things happened while we were drinking the water from the brand that is supposed to be "just as good." That's how I know they're not!
Then I got my present machine, and the rest is history!

(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Plus I must confess I only drink about six cups of water a day, in contrast to the eight that I should be drinking. But I do have about 4 cups of coffee in the morning... that sort of counts (but not really).
No, sorry, doesn't count!

(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Oh, but even more than that, I play music! Actually covered "Shakin' the Tree" with a bluegrass band some years ago for a New Year's gig!
Oh how cool! You were covering PG and all this time I didn't know!
Do you do vocals?
Across The River - Shaking The Tree
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Quote:Tangent: Are you a lunatic? Have you kept up with his other stuff? Brilliant, all! But that's a whole 'nother conversation!
No, I haven't. But I should check it out!
A lunatic is a hardcore PG fan. I am a lunatic. (ok folks I know I'm setting myself up here...have a little compassion before you jump on it ok? haha)
All his stuff is phenomenal...but very different. He had different eras. I'll email you some cool stuff just for fun. (and anyone else who is interested.)
Thanks for the info on Costa Rica!
(11-15-2012, 03:48 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Wait... what?! But hydrogen ions are what make a liquid acidic!
Really? I didn't know that. Very interesting! I have no idea what the explanation is. Maybe it's something like lemon juice being acidic and yet causing the body to alkalize? That's just a wild guess. Did the doc on the chemistry help explain it? The one I sent on Oct. 28.
I don't know what the technical explanation is. I just know it has active ('free') hydrogen, and is very high alkaline pH, and strong negative ORP.
I think I sent you some research docs on active hydrogen too.
OMG! I just did a search looking for distributors in MI. I found one whom I thought sold my brand. I called him and it turned out to be a competitor. He didn't give away the water like we do. He sold it. I asked him what sort of experiences people were reporting, and he excitedly told me about people who got relief from constipation. I asked "what else?" and he had nothing - nothing - else to report! Not even the basic stuff we hear all the time, like acid reflux, pain relief, etc. Nothing. Nada. Zip. The only testimonial he had was relief from constipation? Just getting off sodas and drinking any water will do that!
Not knowing who I was, he kept talking...so I let him talk for a bit. He told me he'd had a vegan lady who complained that the water made her dizzy. So he told her she needed minerals, and took her off the 'ionized' water and put her on 'filtered' water + Himalayan salt, and she got all better. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, "hey I'm vegan and I've never gotten dizzy from my water" + lots of other vegans also...Basically he was admitting that his water obviously didn't have the ionized minerals (like ours does). My family's teeth all looked more opaque after drinking this water.
He also said his machine shorted out whenever the dishwasher kicked on, and he had to send it back. He used the words "Every time I've had to send it back they treated me really good" to which I said "Every time? Just how many times have you had to get your machine serviced, if you've only had it a year?" He evaded that question.
The competitors use SMPS technology, which is flimsy. So it's no surprise that it malfunctioned whenever his dishwasher kicked on. This is one of the 'top' companies.
My conscience then got the better of me and I came clean. I told him I honestly thought he sold my brand when I called him. Then I told him that his brand might be ok (though a waste of $$ in my opinion) for people who were healthy, but for very sick people, it might make the difference between life and death. I then told him of some of the testimonials we routinely get. He acted like he'd never heard any of those stories before. He didn't even try to pretend he got the same sort of testimonials...it was clear he didn't.
It ended amicably, and I wished him well. But, I think I peed in his pool.
