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    Shin'Ar

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    11-14-2012, 08:22 PM
    (11-14-2012, 06:03 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The Law of One simply states that All is One. There is only One Consciousness; One Thing. There is only One of Us here.


    Yes this is the understanding which enlightenment brings. But as with all understanding it is handicapped by individual capability to fully comprehend matters that one begins to realize.

    Even as you speak the words, 'there is only one of us here', you expose the paradox. You speak to the fact that there is only one and yet you use the word Us to designate to whom you are referring.


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    (11-14-2012, 12:32 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Personally, the philosophy I have chosen is monism. This says, when the One became the Two, it did not cease to be the One.

    And that very paradox is the Mystery the paradox, which by chasing, evolves The All.


    [quote='Tenet Nosce' pid='104612' dateline='1352910734']
    Yes, exactly. But the One is still One. The Two is an illusion employed by the One to evolve through self-experience....we must acknowledge that the Two is an illusion, i.e. that there is no real distinction between "self" and "other."


    What is an illusion? What do you mean by illusion? How do you suppose The One employs illusion?

    What you are speculating on here TN is there being a difference between the thought process of consciousness and how thought is actually manifested as creation.

    We are speaking of the very essence of existence being energy waves extending from the Source as thought,sound or light.

    When you say the two is an illusion employed by The One so that it can experience self, I will say that The Other is a thought process of The One which it now experiences through The Other.

    We are saying the same thing in different ways;semantics.

    But why do you state that there is no distinction between the thought and the Thinker, regardless of semantics, when we acknowledge that it is by this Divine thought process that creation evolves and manifests as it does?

    The distinction between self and other is NOT the same as distinction between Thinker and thought because I am speaking of the process itself and not either entity or source.

    The distinction is that self is identity/identification of source.

    The process or expanding/evolving thought is simply being. Not a being.

    Yes, all is One being evolving into Mystery.

    But self is Not the countless variations of that experience each identifying as a singularity or person or being.

    Self is The One alone, which by Its own ability and choice, established this 'process of being' in which it has created an Other for the purpose of experiencing awareness in a state of being that is NOT alone.

    The distinction to be made is not between the identity of The One and The Other. It is in the process of being One and experiencing existence as the Other.

    You used the example of seeing ourselves in every blade of grass.

    But you are unconsciously assigning individual identity to the blades of grass,( to each human) and then trying to somehow designate them all as one entity. And it is there where the mistake is made.

    I have constantly stated that we are not identities. We are a process of being.

    We are the One thinking,yes. But NOT The Source of that thought process, merely the result of that process.

    The thought is NOT The Thinker. The Thinker has the identity. The process of it thinking does not have identity. It is just a process.

    The One Consciousness thought about existence. That proceeded from it as a wave of energy/light/sound/vibration.

    This Thinker and this process of proceeding thought waves, is all that there is. All is One.

    But this identity of self, which we perceive ourselves to be, is not the identity of The Source. It is the delusion created in our brains as it attempts to interpret the signals sent to it via the field of consciousness, which is what we truly are. Without the field of consciousness and the divine process of being that brain would be nothing more than another vibrating energy or thought process proceeding from Its Source Field. As is anything of matter which manifests from that process.

    Does this consciousness exist without a brain or body?

    Of course, the human biped is not the only living being in the universe of creation.

    Consciousness exists as process. among those many processes is the human experience, which each human in an unenlightened state of being, supposes is an experience of individual identity, adopting the self their brain has created as their own identity. When in reality a process of experience cannot assume identity. It can experience identity as each individual experience or process, but it cannot become The Source.

    Each individual experience, human or blade of grass, is nothing more than the continuing thought process of The One Consciousness manifesting as matter interacting with other manifestations of further thought process.

    This process is The Other.

    It is not that The One created another identity or entity. And it is NOT that each experience becomes a separate entity.

    There is One and all proceeds from It. The Other is that procession, not some other entity or identity.

    This is why we are wrong to declare that we are The One or that we are The Creator. And wrong to conclude that there is no Other.

    The very suggestion declares that The One resides in stillness and non functioning consciousness. And by our very own awareness of existence we know that is untrue.

    How intelligent awareness becomes a process of experience which manifests as creation is the Mystery. There is Source, and there is the result of Source acting/thinking/being. That process is The Other.

    The Other is the Mystery, which to us seems a paradox, and because of that curiosity, becomes the vehicle of evolution.
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