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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Poll about cancer "cure"

    Poll: Can cancer be cured by average western person with money.
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    11-13-2012, 04:15 AM (This post was last modified: 11-13-2012, 04:36 AM by Monica.)
    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: Could you share specific incidences where these situations you described occurred?

    There are lots. Here are some, for starters:

    Dr. Ann Wigmore, Dr. Eva Snead, Dr. Lorraine Day, Dr. Christopher, Dr. Schulze, Dr. Bernardo, Gerson...off the top of my head.

    Dr. Lorraine Day Harrassed for daring to share how she cured her cancer after the medical establishment left her for dead <<== warning: contains graphic images of tumors

    http://healingtools.tripod.com/drsch_nhc.html
    Quote:We have watched them pass more and more laws restricting our rights, they have made many healing herbs, foods and even nutrients illegal. Natural health professionals that flourished a few decades ago are now barred by law to practice, and Natural Doctors, Holistic Healers, Health Food Store Owners and even family members of the sick have been arrested and jailed for using natural remedies. If you disagree with your doctor regarding the medical treatment of your children, they can be taken away from you, put in a foster home, and you can be arrested for endangering the health and welfare of your child. There are many people jailed every year, put there for disagreeing with medical doctors and their policies. Organized medical crime has gone so far, they have outlawed words for other health professionals to use such as Diagnose and Cure. Just by using these words you can be arrested for "Practicing Medicine Without a License."

    Orthodox medical treatment would be put in its place if people had a more visible and available choice. The majority of the people in this country would rather choose prevention and a Natural Doctor, than wait for the disease to surface and be poisoned, burned and mutilated in the name of science. It is estimated that if people had a choice, lack of demand would shrink Doctors and Drugs to less than 10% of it's current size, with the remainder almost entirely related to trauma medicine. That would be a $ 900,000,000,000.00 (nine hundred BILLION dollar) loss to them. They are not going to take this loss without a good fight.
    Hoxsey was constantly harassed by the A.M.A. and the F.D.A. and arrested on numerous. occasions, even though he proved his herbal cancer formula worked. One of our great teachers, Dr. John Christopher was arrested 6 times and Dr. Schulze has been arrested and is constantly harassed.

    Cancer is Serious Business <<== Watch up to 3:30 to see testimony about child dying from the treatment, though her body was cancer-free from alternative methods - (Note: Dr. Burzynski's techniques are only effective for certain types of cancers, not all...but his work is very well documented.)

    http://dcawatch.com/fda-and-state-author...-remedies/
    Quote: A decade’s-long dispute between a highly respected physician/scientist and the State of California ended with the elderly doctor, Bruce Halstead, on criminal probation and stripped of his license to practice medicine.

    In light of this and other recent actions taken by state governmental authorities in cooperation with such U. S. institutions as the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the FTC (Federal Trade Commission), the government appears to be engaged in a concerted war against a domain of the healing arts known as alternative medicine. This war, ostensibly for the protection of American citizens from unscrupulous “quacks,” has apparently moved into a new phase. The FDA’s pursuit of medical “public enemies” is no longer restricted primarily to non-MD practitioners not trained at established medical schools–those the general public largely considers the unorthodox fringe of the medical world. These federal agencies are now engaging the force of the government’s legal machinery in the prosecution of physicians practicing “conventional medicine”–those who have dared to recognize and even incorporate into their practices the efficacy of holistic natural remedies.
    ARTICLES
    Proof that the cancer industry doesn’t want a cure – even if it’s a pharmaceutical
    The Big Business of Breast Cancer Gold Mine for Pink Profiteers
    Chemotherapies that target angiogenesis can increase metastasis threefold- Cancer Cell Journal
    Surgery – Biopsies Cause Metastasis – New Study finds

    Persecuted (& murdered) doctors, health professionals <<=== see this
    Quote:Just a few in a long list. You can't run a medical monopoly without harassing and suppressing alt med practitioners. This ranges from prosecution (Hadwen, Issels), medical Kangaroo court (Wakefield, Blakemore-Brown), forcing out of the country (Gerson, Burton), removing licence to practice (Durrant-Peatfield, Roehrich), to experiencing jail (Issels, Hamer, McCabe, Wainright, Forrest), attempted murder (Nkuba), or murder (Reich, Rife, Johnson Taylor Gerson)

    "After presenting a rather effective lecture on cancer…the windshield was shot out of my car on the road back to San Francisco. The next night the glass window in the tail gate was shot out (300 miles removed from the first shooting). The police said, 'maybe someone is trying to tell you something'. The late Arthur Harris, M.D. was threatened by two men with assassination if he continued to use laetrile. Since that time we have de-centralised the work so that, if any two of us are shot out of the saddle, it will have only a slight negative effect on the program."---Dr. Krebs

    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: The medical establishment is a system, a paradigm. They make their own definitions, their own rules/standards, and their own way of measuring success. So alternative modes of care may overlap but is usually not in congruence with the medical paradigm.

    Yes, it is a paradigm. But it shouldn't be a monopoly. People ought to be able to choose freely. The medical establishment fights any challenge to its tightly controlled monopoly.

    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: They have limited capacity to say whether alternative modes of care works or does not work due to certain levels of 'incompatibility' in defining & measuring illness/health.... therefore they are barred thru their ethical code to make definitive statements or recommendations about/for alternative modes of care (because everything they push has to clear their own system and rules of determining success... a.k.a. clinical trials).

    I don't think that's it. There is a huge amount of clinical evidence for alternative methods. Alternative practitioners don't generally have an ethical dilemma, though certainly not all of them are ethical. The main problem is censorship by the medical establishment of anything outside their paradigm.

    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: They have not found a cure for cancer, only treatment methods that have proven to reduce or eliminate some or all symptoms of cancer. That's why they use the term 'remission.' If they said cure, they would get loads of medical malpractice suits and go bankrupt.

    'They' meaning the medical establishment? They haven't found a pharmaceutical cure, but they are certainly aware of numerous methods that facilitate healing. They don't embrace those methods; rather, they censor them. Bad for business!

    There are so many alternative methods for helping the body heal cancer, it would fill a book. Oh wait! make that numerous books!

    I would be remiss though if I didn't mention the lowly weed:

    ALL cancers cured in 6 weeks by alkalizing etc.

    and

    For the record, juicing raw cannabis has NO psychoactive effects. It is very powerful!

    Power of Raw Cannabis

    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: It is a corrupt and imperfect system for sure.

    It's great for broken bones, gunshot wounds and car accidents!

    (11-13-2012, 03:13 AM)rie Wrote: Cancer is rather a wide and complex field of understanding... what is 'cancer'?

    Dr. Otto Warburg proved back in 1931 that cancer can only live in an acidic environment. So 'they' have had a cure for cancer for 81 years! Many alternative practitioners know from clinical experience that any patient who consistently keeps their pH above 7 will see results. Here is one of them:

    Dr. Bernardo on cancer

    These and many other doctors are harassed and even put in jail for sharing what has worked for hundreds or thousands of their patients. Dr. Bernardo and Dr. Budwig both had a 95+ % success rate with advanced stage cancer patients. Chemo is a joke by comparison. A very sick joke!
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    Poll about cancer "cure" - by Cyan - 11-07-2012, 07:01 AM
    RE: Poll about cancer "cure" - by Guardian - 11-07-2012, 07:46 AM
    RE: Poll about cancer "cure" - by Daydreamin - 11-14-2012, 04:37 PM
    RE: Poll about cancer "cure" - by Monica - 11-07-2012, 03:18 PM
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    RE: Poll about cancer "cure" - by Monica - 11-08-2012, 05:31 PM
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    RE: Poll about cancer "cure" - by Monica - 11-09-2012, 09:55 PM
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