11-01-2012, 01:56 PM
This touches upon the classic idea of "freedom of behaviour" as being the basis for cognitive freedom. The idea of being able to take and give pleasure in every moment is seen as an ideal of freedom because it is rationalized as being released from "limitation". However, such is a limitation is only so if one makes it, and the idea that one can engage in more pleasure by being a "slut" is patently false. Some of my most powerful moments of pleasure, particular in sex, have always been through a genuine, loving connection, and had little to do with the physical stimulation itself.
It would also be good to note that there is a huge misconception that "tantra = spiritual sex", this IS NOT WHAT TANTRA IS. Tantra is a principle which is used WITH sex, tantra itself is a spiritual practice which can be used for sex or not.
Tantras becoming especially meaningful when they are put along-side the Sutras. In a buddhist way of thought, the Sutras very much deal with renunciation, and world-denying, whereas tantra is about embracing and world-accepting. The former is done as a way to purify onself of the lower desires, the latter is also done for this, but this is more about a transmutation, taking the raw experience and using it as a purification process by releasing desires as they are experienced.
Also, there is the fact that in many Tantric practices the goal is not pleasure, but INTIMACY, there is no objective of orgasm, but an objective of CONNECTION and embracing in love.
The "tantra" that seems to be described here sounds more like hedonism!
To me, the balance between the Sutras and the Tantras are there to achieve a balanced sense of give and take within the world. Then there is Dzogchen which is meant to hit at the core of the being as being energy and consciousness.
It would also be good to note that there is a huge misconception that "tantra = spiritual sex", this IS NOT WHAT TANTRA IS. Tantra is a principle which is used WITH sex, tantra itself is a spiritual practice which can be used for sex or not.
Tantras becoming especially meaningful when they are put along-side the Sutras. In a buddhist way of thought, the Sutras very much deal with renunciation, and world-denying, whereas tantra is about embracing and world-accepting. The former is done as a way to purify onself of the lower desires, the latter is also done for this, but this is more about a transmutation, taking the raw experience and using it as a purification process by releasing desires as they are experienced.
Also, there is the fact that in many Tantric practices the goal is not pleasure, but INTIMACY, there is no objective of orgasm, but an objective of CONNECTION and embracing in love.
The "tantra" that seems to be described here sounds more like hedonism!
To me, the balance between the Sutras and the Tantras are there to achieve a balanced sense of give and take within the world. Then there is Dzogchen which is meant to hit at the core of the being as being energy and consciousness.
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