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    10-25-2012, 01:12 PM (This post was last modified: 10-25-2012, 01:16 PM by zenmaster.)
    (10-25-2012, 12:33 PM)rie Wrote: My issue would be working with people who are mandated to enter into therapy or trying to engage people who would have something to lose (like lose their kids) if they don't enter into treatment. What of free will in the first case?
    This is a good question. I think freedom and free will are generally restricted by habits and institutions. More opportunity to exercise freedom is provided where conditions and their justifications are either self apparent or readily stated for addressing any circumstance. Generally, I'd say it is an engaging dialog and there must be an attempt to reach an understanding with clear acknowledgement of conditions. Only when we know we're operating according to a pattern, or within a framework can we hope to transcend it and we are not upset, discouraged or angered when we all are capable of acknowledging the conditions we set forth.

    (10-25-2012, 12:57 PM)Patrick Wrote:
    (10-25-2012, 12:48 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (10-25-2012, 12:43 PM)Patrick Wrote: Jesus certainly had a lot of influence... Smile

    People seek guidance. The more honest guidance you're able to offer, the more influential you'll be. Of course, we are given an infinite amount of time to accept guidance.

    And of course, the whole exercise is done so one can reach awareness that the best guidance one can find is already within the self. Smile
    That's sort of the point. But back to practical matters, we leverage what others have to offer in addition to what we may provide. Even in "4D" there is a "social contract", although the concerns are not survival related.
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    How psychologists subvert democratic movement - by reeay - 10-24-2012, 03:51 PM
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