How psychologists subvert democratic movement

[Patrick]

No need for "influential" people. If all the Average Joes would but stop doing what they are doing right now and get into a cave/forest/island or other isolated place and meditate for just a few days, then the world machine would stop,

How can that not be influential? Seems contradictory.

Of course it would be extremely influential.

I apologize for the seeming contradiction; I thought you meant "influential" as it is generally applied (i.e. professionals, popular figures, critically acclaimed individuals, etc), hence the quotation marks.

No, I meant influential as in to influence. People can either directly intend to influence or do it unconsciously. With knowledge and acceptance of a particular domain which desires influence, there would be greater effectiveness of influence. This is the experience which affords opportunity to change conditions. We have infinity if we want it, but sometimes people see what they perceive to be a better way and want to provide that.

Jesus certainly had a lot of influence...