10-22-2012, 12:19 AM
(10-21-2012, 08:23 PM)ShinAr Wrote: What do you mean when you say it is a dream?Exactly as it sounds, that this is a dream. Nothing less and nothing more.
Quote:A dream and a reality are two very different things, are they not? Are they not the opposite of each other?Nope.
Quote:In a dream one can have all these powers that you speak of.Here as well, but only once. When you get the power for the first time, you get it for "all time".
Quote:In reality, such ability is a dream. At least it is considering our degree of evolution. What may be possible in our future state will come to be known.I dont put much stock in time.
Quote:But in your state at this time you are no more able to make anything you want to happen by willpower than I can drive down the road with my eyes closed without having an accident.
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Quote:What I am curious about is why you choose to speak in such grandiose manner, and then deliberate to defend the fantasy of such dreaming.Interesting that you would call it fantasy when we are on a forum dedicated to "imaginary" entities by most peoples accounts that talk to hard core christians about heaven and hell as subjective states of mind that you access through remembering that you are all there is.
Quote:I understand poetics and metaphors, but I also understand, all too well, delusion.
Please please please, stop with the calls of delusion, that just makes it more difficult for me to answer you with anything resembling friendlyness.
Best way I would describe it to you, is to say that this is a long term dream, and every night you have a short term dream, and it is a long term dream because you believe it repeats as you left it last time you went into the short term dream, this is the actual "delusion". It doesnt, every time you sleep the world changes, sometimes by "hours" sometimes by a lot more than that.
To have power is not the same as to have any idea of how to use that power. And THAT is why it doesnt matter. If i were to do anything i want now, i would lose the opportunity to learn from my subconcious (ya'll) since i remember more of this than i do my short term dreams,i prefer learning here than learning in a new dream every day, it would be exhausting this early in my process.
You have all the power in the universe, but not all the knowledge, temperance and all that other good stuff to use that power well, so, most people opt to saying they have non, that is not true either. You give your power away when you step into the illusion but its always there, you can call it forth even when within the illusion but, what if your plan is to live a million years in this illusion and slowly accumulate power, abilities, and understanding, and to get it all back now you would not be able to nor desire to progress along your previous path? You could say that you have programmed yourself to believe tha tyou need go through the motions. And you need to, but not to get the power of "magic" but to get the appreciation and the heart to use it well. We are not here to learn magic, we are here to learn how to not use magic, by my opinion. This place is a testin humility to not use the abilities that you have, once you wake up.
Thats my take on it,i dont know if its true, but based on experience post my "wakeup" i adamantly believe that we all have all power we could ever want or have, but almost none of us (myself included) have any real control over that with our limited selves. The limited self, the best way to put it, goes to run and hide in the corner when actual power is presented.
(10-21-2012, 10:00 PM)caycegal Wrote:(10-20-2012, 08:14 AM)Cyan Wrote: Magic is understanding that all is one and that you were born into a dream.
Accepting that into your heart without resistance will allow you to do anything to anyone anywhere at anytime for any reason.
Accepting that you have always had that power and this is what you created is called harvest. Or reaping what you sow.
I like your post, Cyan. I will quibble with one point:
Quote:Accepting that into your heart without resistance will allow you to do anything to anyone anywhere at anytime for any reason.
Delete the words "to anyone" from this sentence, and I'm with you. I'm not sure we can affect others unless they choose to be affected on some level.
See, this is where it gets dicey, my understanding is that there is an infinite amount of "me's" if you want to do something to me, a apsect of me will appear and allow you to do what eve ryou want, but it wont be "me" it will be an "aspect" of me.
Thats something that took me a tremendous amount of time to accept. But were i to, for example, try to do something to you, what would happen is that i could do it, but only within my "all power" but not within your "all power" but it would still be true for me, true for you, not true for me and not true for you.
And in there lies kind of the paradox that i came across. The thing kinda works like so that if I have a negative intent (do something not accepted by other self) there is kind of a protective system that kind of defuses the result but allows the act.
After the act is done if you at a later time regret it, you may undo something but what happens when you can "undo" something that you yourself have done with "absolute power"... There are so many paradoxes there that they boggle my mind.
It becomes interesting when you decide that something you did needs to be "undone" and you start to ponder what is your stance on it now and the world starts to rotate around the concept of you undoing something you have done before to put the whole of your path in another perspective and the universe turns to you and asks "what exactly is that perspective?" thats kind of what drives people nuts because it is "not in accordance with physics"... I believe that gemini wolf has some idea of what i mean by this effect. It has been observed by myself and a few others as "everyone turning towards you" but not remembering it themselves afterward for the most part... Dunno if that makes sense to anyone from my PoV.
It is kind of like this is an illusion that you are supposed to "teleport" out of by the common understanding of how things go, but when that moment comes you can "teleport" and "not teleport" at the same time and kind of cause a bug within the concept of how reality works and "shift" sideways into the structure of how its built. This makes very little explanatory sense but the gist of it should be there. And should also explain some of the odd results some seers here are getting from my field =D
But yes, you both can and cant do it to anyone. Mostly cant because you'll start to regret doing to anyone anything harmful eventually and thus wish to undo it and that wish since timeless prevents you from doing it in the moment. These kinds of feedbackloops prevent it "now" from "other now"...
Does that make sense as to why you can and cant do it to anyone and everyone.... I hope it does....
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