Healing Others

[fairyfarmgirl]

This is what I have found to be true as well, Ayadew!

Love--

fairyfarmgirl

[ayadew]

By the way, I wrote all manner of nice things and names of entities I love on paper and taped them to the decanter I drink blessed water from. Thanks for the tip!

[Aaron]

Ahh, an outlet for all the love that swells up and spirals around in me! Thank you, Ayadew and others for sharing. What I would suppose is the effect of the chakras being open and the energy field balanced is an absolutely unceasing surge or "inner flame" of "goodness" that manifests spiritually as peace/wellbeing and physically as pleasure. This is my experience anyway.

This is a tangible way to release that light/love back into the earth where it belongs. Maintain the flow!

EDIT: Do you suppose this is what Jesus was teaching about when he said the wine was his blood and the bread, his body?

[Questioner]

Thank you all very much and sorry I am getting into all of these threads so late.

I sometimes feel the same pressure. We can both remind ourselves that whenever we are ready to learn, whenever we are ready to share, is the right time for our hearts to be open. If that is also a convenient time to access this forum, read and type, so much the better. If not, we can hold the love of the concept in our hearts and know that no good is lost, even if it seems that a topic is no longer "hot" on the forum.

It's also fine to add to an older topic. Except for a few comments about events in the news, and a few comments about life experiences, the vast majority of the material on this site is about timeless spiritual principles. So if there's a month-old forum post about a twenty year old book about a correction of a ten thousand year old misunderstanding of a five billion year old principle of the Logos... why not add your post today, or next week if that's more convenient?

[Sacred Fool]

Where does "Not my will but Thine be done" enter into this?

How does one distinguish "healing attempts" from an ego trip, I wonder?

At what stage does one accept "reality" as Divine Will?

[Peregrinus]

When does one accept reality is not reality, but an illusion?

2.3 Ra: The principle of crystal healing is based upon an understanding of the hierarchical nature of the structure of the illusion which is the physical body, as you would call it. There are crystals which work upon the energies coming into the spiritual body; there are crystals which work upon the distortions from spirit to mind; there are crystals which balance the distortions between the mind and the body. All of these crystal healings are charged through purified channels. Without the relative crystallization of the healer working with the crystal, the crystal will not be properly charged. The other ingredient is the proper alignment with the energy fields of the planet upon which you dwell and the holistic or cosmic distortions or streamings which enter the planetary aura in such a manner that an appropriate ratio of shapes and placement within these shapes is of indicated aid in the untangling or balancing process.

This can be learned, or come naturally, by Ra's own words. Even Jesus said "What I do, all can do". Each of us can heal, whether naturally or through the ways of becoming an adept. It is not ego to think that. It is acceptance of who we truly are.

4.9 Questioner: Is it possible for you to instruct in these healing techniques if we could make available an individual who had the native ability?

Ra: It is possible. We must add that many systems of teach/learning the healing/patient nexus are proper given the various mind/body/spirit complexes. We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations. We also ask your imagination to conceive of those who have chosen the distortion of service and have removed their mind/body/spirit complexes from one dimension to another, thus bringing with them in totally latent form many skills and understandings which more closely match the distortions of the healing/patient processes.

4.14 Ra: Two kinds there are who can heal: those such as yourself who, having the innate distortion towards knowledge-giving of the Law of One, can heal but do not; and those who, having the same knowledge, but showing no significant distortions toward the Law of One in mind, body, or spirit, yet, and nevertheless, have opened a channel to the same ability.

The point being that there are those who, without proper training, shall we say, nevertheless, heal. It is a further item of interest that those whose life does not equal their work may find some difficulty in absorbing the energy of intelligent infinity and thus become quite distorted in such a way as to cause disharmony in themselves and others and perhaps even find it necessary to cease the healing activity. Therefore, those of the first type, those who seek to serve and are willing to be trained in thought, word, and action are those who will be able to comfortably maintain the distortion toward service in the area of healing.

4.17 Ra: We consider your request for information, for as you noted, there are a significant number of vibratory sound complexes which can be used in sequence to train the healer.

The synopsis is a very appropriate entry that you might understand what is involved.

Firstly, the mind must be known to itself. This is perhaps the most demanding part of healing work. If the mind knows itself then the most important aspect of healing has occurred. Consciousness is the microcosm of the Law of One.

The second part has to do with the disciplines of the body complexes. In the streamings reaching your planet at this time, these understandings and disciplines have to do with the balance between love and wisdom in the use of the body in its natural functions.

The third area is the spiritual, and in this area the first two disciplines are connected through the attainment of contact with intelligent infinity.

The choice to be healed is not the mbs complex who offers healing, or the mbs complex who is being healed. The healer actually only provides the energy, and the higher self of the mbs complex being healed accepts the energy.

As below, one must attain Christ consciousness to be able to provide healing. Christ was a state of being, not a man. Jesus (Jehoshua) was the man, hence the title Jesus The Christ.

4.20 Ra: One of the primal distortions of the Law of One is that of healing. Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect. Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One. The healer acts as energizer or catalyst for this completely individual process.

One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving. This is an honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.

17.18 Questioner: Then if the entity Jesus was fourth density and there are Wanderers on the planet today who came from fifth and sixth density, what was it that Jesus did that enabled him to be such a good healer and could these fifth- and sixth-density beings here now do the same?

Ra: Those who heal may be of any density which has the consciousness of the spirit. This includes third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh. The third density can be one in which healing takes place just as the others. However, there is more illusory material to understand, to balance, to accept, and to move forward from.

The gate to intelligent infinity can only be opened when an understanding of the in-streamings of intelligent energy are opened unto the healer. These are the so-called Natural Laws of your local space/time continuum and its web of electromagnetic sources or nexi of in-streaming energy.

Know then, first, the mind and the body. Then as the spirit is integrated and synthesized, these are harmonized into a mind/body/spirit complex which can move among the dimensions and can open the gateway to intelligent infinity, thus healing self by light and sharing that light with others.

True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self -healing properties of the self.

Personally, I have a loooooooong way to go, and I wouldn't even consider I could help heal someone with the addition of a bandaid as of yet, but I do not discount any possibility. I enjoy this journey and strive to be of service at the highest calling available to me. Each day may only be one small step, yet it is a step in the right direction, service to others. If I do have any personal aspirations in this, it is to be able to help others. Being able to offer someone like Carla the opportunity to be unburdened of her pain... I know somehow that that is why Don asked all those questions... I feel the same way he did.

I added an edit to the post I made earlier when I thought we had come to a clear understanding of the method. That was a beginning, a stepping stone, just as this post is. Thanks to all for your group input, and please don't stop! I love you all!

[Sacred Fool]

When does one accept reality is not reality, but an illusion?

At what point (or line or plane) do "reality" and Divine Consciousness intersect and appear the same?

2.3 Ra: Without the relative crystallization of the healer working with the crystal, the crystal will not be properly charged.

This can be learned, or come naturally, by Ra's own words. Even Jesus said "What I do, all can do". Each of us can heal, whether naturally or through the ways of becoming an adept. It is not ego to think that. It is acceptance of who we truly are.

Indeed, but such a dark road it is to travel, no?

4.14 Ra: Two kinds there are who can heal: those such as yourself who, having the innate distortion towards knowledge-giving of the Law of One, can heal but do not; and those who, having the same knowledge, but showing no significant distortions toward the Law of One in mind, body, or spirit, yet, and nevertheless, have opened a channel to the same ability.

The point being that there are those who, without proper training, shall we say, nevertheless, heal. It is a further item of interest that those whose life does not equal their work may find some difficulty in absorbing the energy of intelligent infinity and thus become quite distorted in such a way as to cause disharmony in themselves and others and perhaps even find it necessary to cease the healing activity. Therefore, those of the first type, those who seek to serve and are willing to be trained in thought, word, and action are those who will be able to comfortably maintain the distortion toward service in the area of healing.

Interesting that the emphasis is placed upon service. Perhaps this speaks to the ego query? But how does one understand true service as compared with wishful desiring? How does one discern the "Truth" of one's own intentions? Talk about a fun house, eh?

4.17 Ra: We consider your request for information, for as you noted, there are a significant number of vibratory sound complexes which can be used in sequence to train the healer.

The synopsis is a very appropriate entry that you might understand what is involved.

Firstly, the mind must be known to itself. This is perhaps the most demanding part of healing work. If the mind knows itself then the most important aspect of healing has occurred. Consciousness is the microcosm of the Law of One.

What does this mean?

The second part has to do with the disciplines of the body complexes. In the streamings reaching your planet at this time, these understandings and disciplines have to do with the balance between love and wisdom in the use of the body in its natural functions.

The third area is the spiritual, and in this area the first two disciplines are connected through the attainment of contact with intelligent infinity.

The choice to be healed is not the mbs complex who offers healing, or the mbs complex who is being healed. The healer actually only provides the energy, and the higher self of the mbs complex being healed accepts the energy.

This last bit does sound quite natural, does it not?

4.20 Ra: One of the primal distortions of the Law of One is that of healing. Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect.

Lovely!

Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One. The healer acts as energizer or catalyst for this completely individual process.

One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving. This is an honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.

How do you understand this responsibility?

17.18 Questioner: Then if the entity Jesus was fourth density and there are Wanderers on the planet today who came from fifth and sixth density, what was it that Jesus did that enabled him to be such a good healer and could these fifth- and sixth-density beings here now do the same?

Ra: Those who heal may be of any density which has the consciousness of the spirit. This includes third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh. The third density can be one in which healing takes place just as the others. However, there is more illusory material to understand, to balance, to accept, and to move forward from.

The gate to intelligent infinity can only be opened when an understanding of the in-streamings of intelligent energy are opened unto the healer. These are the so-called Natural Laws of your local space/time continuum and its web of electromagnetic sources or nexi of in-streaming energy.

Know then, first, the mind and the body. Then as the spirit is integrated and synthesized, these are harmonized into a mind/body/spirit complex which can move among the dimensions and can open the gateway to intelligent infinity, thus healing self by light and sharing that light with others.

True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self -healing properties of the self.

So simple.(?)

[Ashim]

I love the way of our Creator !
For the past 3 - 4 months I've been charging water in similar ways to many of you. I would like to share with you my [/b]routine, with or without a crystal:
Set intent of working. Charge crystal and hold with left hand on heart Chakra position. Point right palm at water. Heart Chakra wide open as Intelligent Energy is channelled to the water crystal. This may take 5 - 20 seconds. Feel the frequency of Love filling the body. Request the body may become lighter (or specific healing request). Thanks and blessings in the name of our Infinite Creator.

The subjective change in well being of my "human 3D shell" has been astonishing to say the least. Like many others I had a strong distortion toward pain, mostly in the neck and shoulder area together with ocular migraine attacks of some magnitude. The neck problems are all but gone, the headaches have moved more towards the crown area and have altered their character as to be manageable.
The water also tastes great. The pain corresponded to blockages in my electromagnetic field. I view this as being the aspects of dark as yet to be integrated into the Oversoul. As Catalyst the pain draws attention to these blockages. As the withheld Love transmutes to the Higher Self the Life Lessons are worked on, thus locating the antithesis of the emotion at the heart of these issues. Searching the Self for the Love to integrate the fear, the patience engulfing the impatience, the joy filling the sadness. The goal being not simply to polarize to the extreme positive but to integrate the dark into the Higher Self and thus serve the Creator in letting him learn that which he is not. The events in my life at this moment are so finely tuned to the lessons as yet not learnt as to be my personal proof that we are truly the co-creators of all we experience.
As the synchronicities abound I am offered time and time again the opportunity to see the Love existing in every single joyous Moment.

I feel that when the correct level of focus is reached that the Moment may be perceived as an infinite space thus opening up the possibility of multi-dimensional work, this including but not limited to healing of the Self and Other Selves. I’m not sure if this is a quote from Ra or other channelled information but it certainly has helped this entity on its path home.
“ Stillness of Self at a constant rate as desired by the Self.”[b]

L&L

[ayadew]

Where does "Not my will but Thine be done" enter into this?

How does one distinguish "healing attempts" from an ego trip, I wonder?

At what stage does one accept "reality" as Divine Will?

Reality can be manifested very simple! Just do "I know" exercises.

My reality:
I know I exist.
I know I feel.

These are the only constants in mine.

The discretion of healing and ego trips you decide yourself. Is the proof physical? Emotional? Subtle? Non-existant?
You can heal another being, seeing the bones move physically, in front of an audience and there will be those who's life is fundamentally changed. There will also be those who are completely oblivions to the implications; it's as if the whole experience is seen but ignored, like it cannot fit in their reality so that it's simply discarded.

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Thanks for input everyone!

Peregrinus: You are a healer already, being a conscious light in a sea of darkness. Oh, how bright you shine!

[Peregrinus]

At what point (or line or plane) do "reality" and Divine Consciousness intersect and appear the same?

Our consciousness is divine, for we are of the One Creator. There is no intersection that of which you speak, for all that is is of divinity. You may only perceive that as not so because of the veil, for each perceives according to the first distortion of the LOO, their own free will. What I choose to perceive due to the veil will not be what you perceive due to the veil.

Indeed, but such a dark road it is to travel, no?

Was Christ's road dark? Was Mother Theresa's? Gandhi's? Do you mean negative as opposed to positive? I see light in the darkness and darkness in the light, and all is of the One Creator.

Interesting that the emphasis is placed upon service. Perhaps this speaks to the ego query? But how does one understand true service as compared with wishful desiring? How does one discern the "Truth" of one's own intentions? Talk about a fun house, eh?

Being a wanderer, I have already chosen my desire to be of service to others, and in being so, I cannot choose service to self. I will not.

In truth there is no right or wrong. As long as the intention is pure, so is the truth.

Fun house? If that is your perception, it is so. I see it with my perception, and take such thoughts seriously.

Ra: If the mind knows itself then the most important aspect of healing has occurred. Consciousness is the microcosm of the Law of One.

What does this mean?

I shall leave this question for you to ponder, though if you seek you shall find. One hint: look inward.

Peregrinus: The healer actually only provides the energy, and the higher self of the mbs complex being healed accepts the energy.

...sound quite natural, does it not?

...as natural as breathing... as natural as being born or dying in this illusion... all is natural, all is possible, all is infinite. Our limitation is the mind. Perceive farther than the mind, and the limitations are removed.

Ra: One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving. This is an honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.

How do you understand this responsibility?

I understand that each mind/body/spirit complex has a body which the higher self and the self programmed the life for, so as to learn the lessons which were sought to be learned. Offering a change by being a source of energy is all one can do, for ultimately it is up to the higher self of that mind/body/spirit complex being healed to make the decision. In this way, free will is not breached, and yet to find those which have the desire to be healed, and the faith, is where the responsibility lies. Randomly trying to offer healing is like offering water to those that may or may not be thirsty. When someone exhibits thirst, and only then, should the water be offered.

Ra: True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self -healing properties of the self.

So simple.(?)

One mind/body/spirit complexes simplicity may be anothers complexity.

I have the understanding that you believe that healing is above you, that Christ consciousness is above you, that divinity is above you, that the One Creator is above you, and that any that do not hold these same beliefs are on a dark path. That being said, I do not share these beliefs. I seek to be one with the One Creator, and that I may be of service in helping those that seek any and such help in heir path to the same. I work towards the removal of distortion in this life, and as such have opened myself to all possibilities and catalyst required to do so. I am learning to enjoy the happiness and the suffering equally now, with an open heart and faith. I see the path as one of light and love, in each moment.

"Although there are no mistakes, there are surprises". ~Ra

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Peregrinus: You are a healer already, being a conscious light in a sea of darkness. Oh, how bright you shine!

Please dear brother, I need not praise. If I may quote... "A fool flatters himself. A wise man flatters the fool."

I seek to be neither of these. I only seek to be.

[ayadew]

Then if you seek to be, see all praise as towards the one creator, whichever entity it is aimed towards.

[Peregrinus]

That I can accept dear brother

[thefool]

Where does "Not my will but Thine be done" enter into this?

All the time. A STO healer is not imposing his will upon others for healing to occur. He/She is just creating the opportunity for the healing to occur. In my opinion such a healer also should not take any responsibility upon his shoulders for the healing results. That is not the job of such a healer. The job is to tune himself, make himself available, expect the other to open his/her energy arrangement shields and let the intelligent infinity take care of the rest.

How does one distinguish "healing attempts" from an ego trip, I wonder?

by differentiating between the Intention to heal and the promise to heal. by not taking credit. If one is really honest with himself, it is very simple to detect. Check your true intentions. Are they to become the messiah? or perhaps a cult or popular figure or just to help others achieve more harmony in their lives. Physical/ Mental and Spiritual.

At what stage does one accept "reality" as Divine Will?

This is another penetrating question. I have often struggled with this. At what point do I say I have done enough and may be there is nothing more to be done other than acceptance.
Acceptance does not mean cowardice. Acceptance comes from great understanding that All is Well. Acceptance comes from the Trust that all is happening according to the divine will. Try you must in all earnest but understanding all the time that results you don't control...

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Please dear brother, I need not praise. If I may quote... "A fool flatters himself. A wise man flatters the fool."

Why do you take my name in vain? I have done nothing...

Just kidding

[ayadew]

Some practical results of my new-found healing fascination:

My partner banged her head into a stone-wall yesterday. If you've done this you know you'll get a bump/swelling. So after this happening I did some healing on her for 10 minutes, and lo and behold, there was no swelling today! Also all the pain in her head subsided after the healing session. Pretty cool I'd say!

Today I cut a shallow wound on my thumb and healed it for ~20min. After 3 hours now it's almost completely gone. Who needs band-aids ??

[Sacred Fool]

At what point (or line or plane) do "reality" and Divine Consciousness intersect and appear the same?

Our consciousness is divine, for we are of the One Creator. There is no intersection that of which you speak, for all that is is of divinity. You may only perceive that as not so because of the veil, for each perceives according to the first distortion of the LOO, their own free will. What I choose to perceive due to the veil will not be what you perceive due to the veil.

Granted.

However, for those who would seek to be conscious both of "reality" as it appears behind the veil and some form of greater consciousness, these intersections are not unimportant. In fact, they can be significant places of refuge in this stormy undertaking, in my experience. Being in tune with sacred spaces or lineages could be two examples.

Indeed, but such a dark road it is to travel, no?

Was Christ's road dark? Was Mother Theresa's? Gandhi's? Do you mean negative as opposed to positive? I see light in the darkness and darkness in the light, and all is of the One Creator.

Yes, indeed, his road was darkened, as were theirs. I don't mean evil, but simply that the path is not lit externally except by illusion. This is what makes the element of choice so potent in this environment. In order to find the Light, you must find it within your own being...as amusing as that may be at times.

Aside: if you see too much light in the dark and dark in the light, you'll lose the capacity to read this text. Definition is not for nothing.

Interesting that the emphasis is placed upon service. Perhaps this speaks to the ego query? But how does one understand true service as compared with wishful desiring? How does one discern the "Truth" of one's own intentions? Talk about a fun house, eh?

Being a wanderer, I have already chosen my desire to be of service to others, and in being so, I cannot choose service to self. I will not.

In truth there is no right or wrong. As long as the intention is pure, so is the truth.

Fun house? If that is your perception, it is so. I see it with my perception, and take such thoughts seriously.

This last bit is abundantly clear, my friend.

"Fun house" is an allusion to to the Ra (or Q'uo...I forget) House of Mirrors analogy where we see ourselves oddly reflected at each turn by those around us as though they are distorted reflections of self.

Anyhow, in my experience, the matter of awareness of one's intentions is an excruciatingly important one. The pain of regret for folly is some of the most personal I've ever felt.

As far as Wanderers being committed to always wearing white hats, as it were, some of us have spent much time exploring the other side of street in order to learn to balance these and balance wisdom with love. And, going back to points above, it's not always clear which side of the street one is on at any given time, the path being darkened (as opposed to Dark, shall we say).

Ra: If the mind knows itself then the most important aspect of healing has occurred. Consciousness is the microcosm of the Law of One.

What does this mean?

I shall leave this question for you to ponder, though if you seek you shall find. One hint: look inward.

Okay.

Peregrinus: The healer actually only provides the energy, and the higher self of the mbs complex being healed accepts the energy.

...sounds quite natural, does it not?

...as natural as breathing... as natural as being born or dying in this illusion... all is natural, all is possible, all is infinite. Our limitation is the mind. Perceive farther than the mind, and the limitations are removed.

Indeed.

Ra: One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving. This is an honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.

How do you understand this responsibility?

I understand that each mind/body/spirit complex has a body which the higher self and the self programmed the life for, so as to learn the lessons which were sought to be learned. Offering a change by being a source of energy is all one can do, for ultimately it is up to the higher self of that mind/body/spirit complex being healed to make the decision. In this way, free will is not breached, and yet to find those which have the desire to be healed, and the faith, is where the responsibility lies. Randomly trying to offer healing is like offering water to those that may or may not be thirsty. When someone exhibits thirst, and only then, should the water be offered.

I read it differently. I see it as referring to the Law of Responsibility where there are blow-back consequences for asking for an ability (like healing) and intending to use it in service to the Creator, but then not following through on this.

I'm just bringing this up because I use such considerations to keep a lid on my own arrogance. What about you, my brother, P.? What techniques do you use?

Ra: True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self -healing properties of the self.

So simple.(?)

One mind/body/spirit complexes simplicity may be anothers complexity.

I have the understanding that you believe that healing is above you, that Christ consciousness is above you, that divinity is above you, that the One Creator is above you, and that any that do not hold these same beliefs are on a dark path.

Curious conclusion.

That being said, I do not share these beliefs. I seek to be one with the One Creator, and that I may be of service in helping those that seek any and such help in heir path to the same. I work towards the removal of distortion in this life, and as such have opened myself to all possibilities and catalyst required to do so. I am learning to enjoy the happiness and the suffering equally now, with an open heart and faith. I see the path as one of light and love, in each moment.

I wish you all the best in your adventures!




"Although there are no mistakes, there are surprises". ~Ra

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Peregrinus: You are a healer already, being a conscious light in a sea of darkness. Oh, how bright you shine!

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My reality:
I know I exist.
I know I feel

I'm really not trying to be a trouble maker here, but I can't help wondering, who is the "I" there? Is it self created or is a construct that you are borrowing for awhile? And if so, who is the "you" which is borrowing the construct?

Or, alternatively, put another way, since the "I" above will no longer exist in some relatively short span of time, why put so much faith in it? After all, that which transmigrates is not exactly "you," is it? I mean, not the you you know as you.

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Where does "Not my will but Thine be done" enter into this?

All the time. A STO healer is not imposing his will upon others for healing to occur. He/She is just creating the opportunity for the healing to occur. In my opinion such a healer also should not take any responsibility upon his shoulders for the healing results. That is not the job of such a healer. The job is to tune himself, make himself available, expect the other to open his/her energy arrangement shields and let the intelligent infinity take care of the rest.

How does one distinguish "healing attempts" from an ego trip, I wonder?

by differentiating between the Intention to heal and the promise to heal. by not taking credit. If one is really honest with himself, it is very simple to detect. Check your true intentions. Are they to become the messiah? or perhaps a cult or popular figure or just to help others achieve more harmony in their lives. Physical/ Mental and Spiritual.

At what stage does one accept "reality" as Divine Will?

This is another penetrating question. I have often struggled with this. At what point do I say I have done enough and may be there is nothing more to be done other than acceptance.
Acceptance does not mean cowardice. Acceptance comes from great understanding that All is Well. Acceptance comes from the Trust that all is happening according to the divine will. Try you must in all earnest but understanding all the time that results you don't control...

I thank you for your thoughtful reasoning.

[ayadew]

The "I" is the experience/existence. You can have all manner of circumstances, but you will always experience. Imagine non-existence. You cannot, for you cannot experience non-experience.

[Sacred Fool]

The "I" is the experience/existence. You can have all manner of circumstances, but you will always experience. Imagine non-existence. You cannot, for you cannot experience non-experience.

Well, no I can't do that while I exist. But I'll bet that if I didn't exist, then I could do that.

[ayadew]

No, you couldn't.. because you cannot not exist. If you speak of nothingness, then that is within existence, because you can experience nothing. But you cannot experience non-experience. The awareness of the creator is the awareness of all things I guess.

[Sacred Fool]

No, you couldn't.. because you cannot not exist. If you speak of nothingness, then that is within existence, because you can experience nothing. But you cannot experience non-experience. The awareness of the creator is the awareness of all things I guess.

If I become entirely absorbed into the Original Vibration then do I not become non-existent in the sense that the form of my conscious and physical self that I call "I" will no longer have the identified form and that self-identifying consciousness? If I'm completely absorbed, then I'm no longer I, right?

[ayadew]

Let's see what Ra says about the original vibration. This is the best information I can produce... You will always be you, for you are all that there is. There is nothing else than all that there is, and it is infinite.
Remember, you cannot condition infinity. It is always just out of reach. Identity is a sub-part of the Creator. Identity is not the Creator, but a concept within the Creator.

Ra: At the 7th level or dimension, we shall. if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

Questioner: Does this mean that in the 8th density you would have awareness of all that is?

Ra: This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would not be our awareness, but the awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all there is. The octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb.

So you see, Ra cannot condition infinity either. They do not know what non-existence is, because they do not know what the Creator is. When the Creator knows itself, then you'll know what "I" is.
Perhaps the Creator knows how to un-create itself thus brining non-experience. But until then we'll have experience.

[Sacred Fool]

I, I, Captain Ayadew!

But, seriously, I'm not trying to intrude on your beliefs. Those your personal matter.

I just can't see how, if there's be no identity, there can still be much of an I there. It seems to me that whole affair moves progressively towards dissolution into non-specific identity which becomes no identity at all...therefore, no I. And if the I dose not exist, then you have something very close to non-existence, no? Of course, "I" could well be wrong, but it appears that way to...uh...me.

[ayadew]

Your beliefs are equal to mine. I know no more than you
Other than I've just said, I can add that you are trying to rationalize something that is beyond any concept or logic this human mind can fathom. I present to you the possibility that all is well.

It is my interpretation that
1 = 0 = infinity.

All is nothing and nothing is all which is infinite. The Buddhist nirvana and the everything that is moves towards the same spot - the Creator.

[fairyfarmgirl]

Some practical results of my new-found healing fascination:

My partner banged her head into a stone-wall yesterday. If you've done this you know you'll get a bump/swelling. So after this happening I did some healing on her for 10 minutes, and lo and behold, there was no swelling today! Also all the pain in her head subsided after the healing session. Pretty cool I'd say!

Today I cut a shallow wound on my thumb and healed it for ~20min. After 3 hours now it's almost completely gone. Who needs band-aids ??

I know a Shamaness who says that all healing is is changing the agreement with reality. LOL! I watched her heal herself in one minute all the while she was speaking about how easy it was to just change the agreement with reality. I have only been able to do this a couple of times in my life...

Love--

fairyfarmgirl

[Ali Quadir]

Can you go deeper into the "changing the agreement with reality" statement fairyfarmgirl? No doubt in my mind that that's the way to do it... (and I have some agreements that I'd like to renegotiate ). But ehm... To actually do it....

My healing skills are not so good. Psychologically I'm all right but when I try my hands at physical healing I sometimes get the opposite effect of seriously aggravating the problem. The energy is not the problem. I can radiate a good dose of energy. It just doesn't actually heal, it just seems to amplify what's already there.

Needless to say I'm listening attentively to you guys. Any suggestions to help me would be very welcome. I suppose I should be able to do it if only I knew how.

[ayadew]

The problem is that you do not need to know 'how'. Any intellectual process will actually hamper the healing. You're asking the creator to come in and do it's work which is beyond the scope of this brain. Relax, intend that all will go well and exactly as it should do without your interference.
'Love' can also be 'attention'. You have your attention on a person's wound and that in itself is healing.

To change the agreement of reality, for me, is to create a reality for yourself which needs no cause and effect. The effect can just be without any cause. A such, you can heal yourself with no obvious cause.

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I must add that changing agreement with reality is beyond most of us though, and not in line with that we intended for ourselves. We intended to be human and live the limitations of this planet, not float around, healing stuff instantly etc. There's a purpose to it all.

[fairyfarmgirl]

Can you go deeper into the "changing the agreement with reality" statement fairyfarmgirl? No doubt in my mind that that's the way to do it... (and I have some agreements that I'd like to renegotiate ). But ehm... To actually do it....

My healing skills are not so good. Psychologically I'm all right but when I try my hands at physical healing I sometimes get the opposite effect of seriously aggravating the problem. The energy is not the problem. I can radiate a good dose of energy. It just doesn't actually heal, it just seems to amplify what's already there.

Needless to say I'm listening attentively to you guys. Any suggestions to help me would be very welcome. I suppose I should be able to do it if only I knew how.

LOL! Agreed, Ali Quadir! I understand about changing the agreement... however, as I stated I have only been able to do this successfully twice in my lifetime as a healer/seer/mystic/metaphysical practioner. From what I can gather from my astonishment at successfully changing the agreement was I was in a place of complete openeness/trust and surrender as I really really really was looking to heal myself. This seems to be key because when I tried (rather unsucessfully) to heal myself of a chronic shingles condition I managed to only exacerbate the condition it was not until I became a Gathered Master and entered into a Gate of Grace (also known as the Eye of Horus) that I was able to heal myself again... the Gate of Grace changed the agreement.

I am able to assist others in changing their agreements (which is really only changing your mind about that which you have created to transform that creation into something that which is beneficial) but to do this when you have an issue that a little piece of your Beingness is holding onto (for whatever Catalyst reason that only the Gods can discern) is what gets in the way of changing the agreement... seems that one must really really really truly want and accept healing before healing can occur--- at least at the level of profiency that I am at...

Also, what I have discovered only recently as I have renegotiated some agreements is essential oils, invocations, and prayer work to assist the Beingness in coalescing into changing the agreement...So, to do so the mind must be at ease and not in charge for it is the HEART that HEALS and changes the Agreement... not the mind... So to heal one must get out of the mind and into the HEART--- Not an easy task in our Mind centered world culture. The Shamaness I know of is always out of her mind-- and at the same time never not minding her mind.

Love--

fairyfarmgirl

[Ali Quadir]

The Shamaness I know of is always out of her mind-- and at the same time never not minding her mind.

Lol, what an excellent description. Reminds me of an old joke, "I went to the fortune teller today, but it was a bad time." "She wasn't there?" "Yes she was, kinda, she was holding a note: 'Out of my body today, be back tomorrow' "


Thanks guys for the information. Ironically my teacher in Sufism was named "Grand healer of the western hemisphere". They were thinking of calling him grand healer of the world.. But figured that'd be presumptuous... (if you're a small group, at least use big titles right?) In our group we used the word "Lightpost" to signify we don't attach reason to things that just happen that are beyond reason. It could easily be "Kettle" or "Vacuum cleaner" but we happened to stick with lightpost after a good laugh.

I have an ankle that's slightly busted I do practically everything on foot and sometimes it gives me sorrow. Nothing big, one of the sinews there is just a bit overworked sometimes. I guess it's a good place to start. I suppose the only reason I might not want it to be fully healthy is that it keeps me off the treadmill at the gym. That's also where it started. So I hereby promise myself I'm not going to crawl upon that thing even if my ankle heals. Yay life is getting better already..

But then what? I can easily make the affected area glow with energy projected from the hands. I have already been doing that periodically though. And massaging with energy does suppress the symptoms. But it hasn't fully healed so far.

I don't want to be too cerebral about this. But I've tried several approaches. And it's really presenting itself as a puzzle, it's hard not to leap into cerebral mode if you understand certainly for a man in my condition What do I do? For how long? And when do I repeat.

[fairyfarmgirl]

LOL!!!!

Healing sometimes is a process, Ali Quadir. My friend Jewls after many years of creating a back injury one day decided that she had had enough of the pain and asked the Angels for Help. She wrote a book about it... and this is a sort of changing the agreement as well... It is a 3 step process. Here is the link for the book... not sure if I can quoteth from it as the forum guidelines have been shored up and although Jewls is not a channeler she does have an active relationship with many unseens including the group that I also call the Archangels as well as the Galactic Federation friendlys... http://www.awakeningtoyourcreation.com/

An herbalist would suggest treating the injury as a severe sprain and using a high quality salve containing comfry leaf and root with essential oil of lavender. http://chetday.com/sprainedankle.htm This may start the healing process but first, perhaps you should speak to your ankle and ask your body what is the problem with the healing process of your ankle... the body will answer you provided you are not too much in your mind... but more into the Global Mind and Heart. Have you had your ankle x-rayed to rule out any other issues such as fracture or dislocation?

fairyfarmgirl

[ayadew]

I look forward to the time when you see "Contact your healer before taking" on medicine instead of "Contact your doctor"

[Peregrinus]

We won't need doctors or healers soon enough.