03-24-2012, 02:12 AM
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03-24-2012, 11:54 AM
It was right about midsection Tenet.
Monica, I did view the show when I got home from work. Carla did respond fully to how she and Don became affilated in the beginning with the Circle group, and why she chose to disassociate with them as they became more radical. But I found her response to the STS question to be more about explaining how it is perceived in higher density, than how it should be percieved in third density. She seemed to suggest that because there was such a different perception between the various densities that it really had no meaning with regard to actual choice or practise. I am sorry but I just don't understand why this whole issue has to be so complicated, or why it has to be evaded the way that it is. IMO, not judging anyone individually, or trying to preach to anyone, but there just seems to be a very strange feeling about all of this. There are many saying it is just misunderstanding. But if you go to the Law of One Channeling thread in the Strictly Law of One forum, you will see a half a dozen members doing exactly what I claimed to have seen when i first came here, and what everyone seemed to say I was exaggerating or misinterpretting. But in that thread these members, and there are a few missing that havent responded to it yet but also have the same philosophy, are talking about STS in precisely the same apathetic way that I have tried to warn about. How can so much evasiveness and delusion be taking place without everyone else picking up on it? Now I don't know if my observing this goes against forum rules or not, but how can I point this out without being accused of pointing fingers or preaching? Just go to that thread and read what is being said, I guess thats the only thing to do. I will direct any who are wondering what the heck Im talking about to go to that thread and read what these people are saying. Siren says: "The darkness loves the light, that is why it seeks to embrace and swallow it whole into its abysmal maw. And remember, all light emerges from darkness." and 6 memebers liked it, Oldern, Ruth, tenet, Valtor, Shemaya, and Lightbringer and the Eternal One calls this Siren one of great understanding. And Lightseeker claims :"After all, all is one in the higher state, there is no polarity, no dichotomy in the state of UNITY" and sagitarrius wants me to let it go as if there is nothing to be concerned about. Now this is not finger pointing because I am only reading what was written in that post as examples of what to find there. These are members who are openly and honestly declaring that there is absolutely nothing wrong with following the STS path. They have their right to that opinion. And I am ceratinly not going to try to persuade anyone differently who knows exactly what they are doing when they wal;k that path. What I don't undertstand is all those who would deny that this sort of thinking is taking place in this forum, and were accusing me of exaggerating or creating conspiracies. here is the evidence. It is this apathetis view toward STS that I would like to have an open and honest discussion about without all of the accusations and evasions of it in the process. Here it is right here in this other thread. Let's talk about it to see why these people feel this way and to see if they really understand the dangers of the extreme end of following that path. http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...2#pid78392 (03-24-2012, 02:12 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(03-23-2012, 09:07 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Shin'Ar, we did your question tonight. And Carla talked a lot about the chakras. She really gave a lot of great info so I encourage everyone to listen to it. The chakra stuff was the whole first half hour, and Shin'ar's question was in the last 20 minutes or so. The entire show was really exceptional. Carla was really pouring out some incredible info, so I think the whole show is well worth listening to! (03-24-2012, 11:54 AM)ShinAr Wrote: It was right about midsection Tenet. I thought Carla did an excellent job of answering the actual question. In particular, I liked what she said about 'right and wrong' in 3D. But, she is probably not aware of the specifics of your concern because she doesn't read the forum much. So, would you like to phrase a follow-up question, that more specifically addresses your concern?
03-24-2012, 03:21 PM
No I do not think so Monica.
I really think that this issue has been brought to the forefront, and those who choose to think that the path of STS is just another aspect of creation to be tasted without concern for its effects, will do so regardless of anything further that can be said. It would be foolish to say that this forum is now unaware of the issue. Further discussion would be nothing more than giving those who enjoy STS further gratification.
03-24-2012, 09:49 PM
I think this thread is for leaving questions, not debating.
03-24-2012, 11:04 PM
03-31-2012, 01:35 PM
I listened to the Toby show.
Is there a thread where discussion of the show takes place?
03-31-2012, 03:17 PM
(03-31-2012, 01:35 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Is there a thread where discussion of the show takes place? You can feel free to start one, if plenum hasn't already, following the format of the other threads already in place, such as: Q&A with Carla L. Rueckert > 2012-02-17
We don't have any questions in the queue, so if you'd like to ask Carla a question, now's the time! Either that or I'll have to start scouring the forums for subject matter, and you'll be stuck with whatever questions I want to ask!
C'mon folks, you know you want to...
04-02-2012, 10:53 PM
Is 3D about simply choosing the STO or STS path, or about building polarity once we do make a choice?
I've heard it said that rather than trying to "accumulate" polarity, we should just be in the moment.
04-03-2012, 07:04 AM
Dear Carla and Monica,
I have a question regarding motivation and polarization... For those of us aware of the Law of One, I would like to hear your thoughts regarding making the choice, once aware of what that choice involves. Do you think that it is ever the case, that in knowing that if you achieve the 51% grade for STO you Graduate, then that becomes your sole motivation for making the 51% grade? Is there a danger that in pursuing the 51% STO grade purely to Graduate, this actually becomes a selfish act to benefit the self? What is the relationship between the motivation behind wanting to Graduate and true altruistic service-to-others without any concern for the self? Is there a difference and does it matter? Thank you both for all your service. Jim
04-03-2012, 10:26 AM
I do have a question.
Are there any circumstances where a group of positive ETs would make there presence known to the mainstream? A circumstance like the end of 3d maybe ?
04-03-2012, 11:30 AM
(04-03-2012, 10:26 AM)Valtor Wrote: Are there any circumstances where a group of positive ETs would make there presence known to the mainstream? You mean like this: UFO Fleet?
04-03-2012, 12:30 PM
Hey Monica, is this strictly the Questions thread?
I think I may have mis-used it before, and Gary moved my summary posts out of here. how strict do you want it? (04-03-2012, 11:30 AM)Ankh Wrote:(04-03-2012, 10:26 AM)Valtor Wrote: Are there any circumstances where a group of positive ETs would make there presence known to the mainstream? I mean much more mainstream than that. And just as a special case to prepare us for the harvest.
04-04-2012, 06:04 AM
Dear Carla,
I hope you have found some relief from your pain and suffering recently. You are in our thoughts. Considering the natural design of the evolution of consciousness, what are your thoughts regarding the individual human's ability to fully comprehend the teachings revealed in the Law of One? In other words, given that there are humans at many varying stages of consciousness and evolution, is anyone who simply reads the Ra Material able to become suddenly fully evolved? Or do you see some distinguishing factors that would require a more evolved consciousness, having had more actual life experience, to be able to fully comprehend the truths revealed in such complex and dynamic teachings? There seem to be many students of the ancient teachings, that can repeat what they read, but are not really mature enough in evolved consciousness to understand what the information actually means to their existence. For instance there are many monks, having been born into Buddhist traditions, that are fully capable of reciting their scriptures to the letter, and who meditate deeply and live a very dedicated lifestyle, and yet due to the particular degree of the level of evolved consciousness, they are not as adept at understanding their faith as more evolved consciousnesses may be. Is there something to be said for social establishment that acknowledges this and devises stages of learning and development? And is there any danger to being given too much knowledge before one is evolved enough to grasp it?
04-04-2012, 09:38 PM
(04-03-2012, 12:30 PM)plenum Wrote: Hey Monica, is this strictly the Questions thread? One or 2 replies to something is ok, as long as it doesn't turn into a side discussion. Your summary posts were so awesome that they deserved their own threads!
04-05-2012, 06:50 AM
no probs Monica
04-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Thank you Monica for asking the question and thank you Carla and Jim for the answer.
04-07-2012, 09:30 PM
Hi Carla,
would it be possible for you to talk a little about the topic of spiritual pride? what exactly is it, how do you deal with it, how does it appear in one's spiritual journey? thank you plenum
04-17-2012, 12:33 PM
Dear Carla and Monica,
I have one question. No matter how much I work with homesickness, it is always there. Most of times it doesn't hurt, but some days I am not able to function because of it. It's not that I don't know what to do, or what techniques to use, it is that some days I am just *not able* to use any of them, as it hurts too much. I wouldn't mind it, and just breathe through it if I would be alone, but I am not. When that happens at my work, where I have patients to attend, or when I take care of my five year old, I am not able to serve them properly due this pain. The pain feels very real and sometimes manifests in my physical body in the root center, and when that happens I am walking slowly, and not able to move and work and serve (!!) effeciently, or sometimes at all. It brings me much guilt and I feel selfish. It feels like an imagined thing that even Wanderers on this site have difficulties to understand. And I wish I could just ignore it or reject it, and move on with my life. But when it hits me with full strength, it feels very much real: the pain, the missing, and all the memories; and when that happens at work or when I take care of my child, I just don't know what to do. It's crippling. Thank you for your services. Love and light, Lana.
04-20-2012, 06:46 PM
Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Hey would anyone like to ask Carla what her opinion is about all this? Shin'Ar asked a question for the radio show a couple of weeks ago, and I thought Carla's answer was right on! She talked about Ra saying 'there is no right or wrong' in 6D, but that there was right and wrong in 3D. Good idea.
04-25-2012, 02:35 AM
(04-20-2012, 06:46 PM)Valtor Wrote:Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Hey would anyone like to ask Carla what her opinion is about all this? Shin'Ar asked a question for the radio show a couple of weeks ago, and I thought Carla's answer was right on! She talked about Ra saying 'there is no right or wrong' in 6D, but that there was right and wrong in 3D. Would you like to ask a question, Valtor? Note: My suggestion was to ask Carla about the concerns Shin'Ar brought up: whether it's wise to 'dabble in the dark' ie. investigate the STS path. Perhaps Carla could expound upon what she talked about a couple of weeks ago...that there is no 'right and wrong' in 6D but there is in 3D, and it is our task to choose between them. But someone would need to phrase a question for me to ask.
04-25-2012, 08:41 AM
Perhaps you could ask for clarification upon the two modes of STS that one may extract from advanced understanding:
STS as it arises from the material illusion, in which the entity seeks to gratify the temporary self-created personality at the expense of others, valuing only the "self" and seeking, through manipulation, selfish drives and cunning, to obtain power and glory for the self even if it entails that another might lose something. And STS as is seen from the lens of absolute unity, in which it is completely understood and felt that the "self" within one's self and the "self" within others is the ever waiting, calm, perpetually observant essence of the One Infinite Creator; as such when an individual entity performs acts of any kind, be they compassionate attempts at service or underhanded negative actions, it is the Creator whom you interact with. Thus when that individualized aspect of the Creator were to serve another, the Creator would be aware of this, and thus it would seem that "good karma" is facilitated in which future acts of kindness are performed unto the being. In this way, serving others (Creator) entails the self (Creator) ending up in circumstances seen as positive or beneficial, i.e. being served. I'm trying to think of a good way to phrase it, though I hope this helps you Monica. (04-25-2012, 02:35 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: ... IMHO what you are suggesting is indeed a good question to ask. I feel that everything is probably just a question of intentions when it comes to "right" and "wrong". It's very subjective, at least in 3d. But yeah, I'd like to know what Carla has to say about this. Thanks, Patrick PS: You can present the question under my real name "Patrick" instead of Valtor. Thanks!
04-25-2012, 11:11 AM
Ah!! I do have a personal question actually that I would seek clarification upon.
Is it possible atall for an entity in any particular density to be able to experience and perceive, in full, a higher density without their consciousness having already evolved or "been" to that existential nexus or is that the only way? For instance, if a 3rd Density being were able to fully access the experience of the 8th Density, and it was without a shadow of a doubt the 8D that was being shown, having it stated "you shall be shown the 8th density", what does this entail? Are pre-emptive glimpses possible or can only one who holds the memory of being there/having their consciousness evolved to that point be afforded such an experience? I would highly appreciate if you could pass this question on to Carla
04-25-2012, 10:05 PM
By the way, I'm under the assumption that Carla channels Q'uo or some other higher density being when she answers the questions on this show; is this correct, Monica? If not, then is there someway that you'd be able to have her answer my aforementioned question during one of her channeling sessions if that is not too much to ask? I feel that given the nature of the question only a higher density being could properly answer that, and lo and behold, such is actually a possibility through Carla!
04-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Dear Carla, Jim, and Monica,
Thank you for your continued efforts to be of service to those seeking understanding of the Law of One. There seems to me a fine line between being of service to others and interfering with free will. It is my understanding that Ra came through as an answer to a call, thereby not interfering, and being of service. My question involves human service to others. What if we are considering small children? Small children cannot defend themselves, or speak of their suffering for the most part. Often, they cannot be heard directly, although there are times when it is possible to find out directly of child abuse. However, as an individual with compassion, one might feel the pain of suffering children, and know of it indirectly. A compassionate person may "hear the call" of suffering children. So, what does one do about it within the directive of not interfering with free will? There is the free will of the abusive parents to consider. There is the free will of child pornographers to consider. There is the free will of the government officials who keep their poor hungry to consider. There is even the free will of the suffering children to consider who may have chosen to suffer, although I have no idea how one would find that out. A compassionate person may heed the call from suffering children in his or her heart, and yet, what to do? If interfering with free will is a prime directive of 3D, how does one respond compassionately to the suffering of children--let it be, trusting it will all just work out? Historically, this is not the way things change, and do we not also have an imperative to evolve? This is a matter that continually challenges me. I would like to hear your thoughts.
04-26-2012, 09:07 AM
(04-25-2012, 10:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote: By the way, I'm under the assumption that Carla channels Q'uo or some other higher density being when she answers the questions on this show; is this correct, Monica? If not, then is there someway that you'd be able to have her answer my aforementioned question during one of her channeling sessions if that is not too much to ask? I feel that given the nature of the question only a higher density being could properly answer that, and lo and behold, such is actually a possibility through Carla! I don't think Carla is channeling on these shows. I am under the impression that she is sharing her personal opinions.
04-26-2012, 12:19 PM
(04-26-2012, 09:07 AM)Valtor Wrote:(04-25-2012, 10:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote: By the way, I'm under the assumption that Carla channels Q'uo or some other higher density being when she answers the questions on this show; is this correct, Monica? If not, then is there someway that you'd be able to have her answer my aforementioned question during one of her channeling sessions if that is not too much to ask? I feel that given the nature of the question only a higher density being could properly answer that, and lo and behold, such is actually a possibility through Carla! I think that's right. I don't believe Carla is channeling at all at the moment as she continues to recover from last year's surgery. GV, you could ask Bring4th_GLB how to submit a question for her when she does start to channel again. |
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