Why do wanderers have low self-esteem

[kanonathena]

Is this because ego is less required in higher density?

[Nyu]

Dont think all wanderers do but yeah I guess they have less ego, seeing as you need to lose it to evolve, and also mostly I think because their energy is higher and people can feel that (without knowing why) so they would be shunned, AND they would have small rememberances of not being part of society so they probably don't really want to be a part of it either..

[zenmaster]

As Ra said, 'ego' is a term which has become distorted due to misunderstanding of the 'human condition'. It used to simply mean 'I'.
I agree that many wanderers have low self esteem. My guess this is probably due to the impropriety of the local yellow-ray 'support system'. That is, the social complex emphasizes certain aspects of 'self-to-self' which tend to be inharmonious. Be aware, however, that when one measures oneself against this social complex or identifies with it, and there is an emotional response, such as low self esteem, then there is catalyst available. The society is actually reflecting just that aspect of self that has not been accepted.

Many wanderers have come here for the opportunity to experience 'low self esteem'. Once the particular distortions which give rise to low self esteem are acknowledged and accepted, then there is no emotional reaction.

Low self esteem can be self-destructive because this condition can never view others and self in an accepting manner. And when others and self can not be accepted, there must be a projection put in place in the meantime. When this projection ultimately fails, there will be disappointment and anger - and the cycle continues, on and on.

[AnthroHeart]

I used to have low self esteem, but I worked through a lot of issues. Had to learn to accept the darker parts of myself. When I became accepting and surrendering of the Light, it created a great deal of confidence.

[native]

I think it tends to turn the seeking inward, which sets you on a whole different path. Many wanderers seem to go through a dark period where they reject those around them, which I think is beneficial so as to not get wrapped up in the nonsense.

When we balance something, we consider its opposite and find the middle ground. Low self-esteem is the experience of balancing overly compassionate aspects of yourself, and learning how to have self-love. Because once you process the catalyst involved, a strong sense of self develops.

"The work of sixth density is to unify wisdom and compassion. This entity abounds in wisdom. The compassion it is desirous of balancing has, as its antithesis, lack of compassion. In the more conscious being this expresses or manifests itself as lack of compassion for self."

[kycahi]

Ra said that STO Wanderers are vulnerable to being caught up in 3D craziness and lose polarity. Too much self-esteem can make me think I'm better than everybody else, thus separate me from them. Solution: program low self-esteem into my personality. I should be grateful, I guess, having done it to myself.

[Joseph326]

I had done that as well. It was well worth the years of effort to work through it, even as unbearable as it seemed at times. It really accelerates the seeking, and forms a solid core of love and acceptance within the self which can then be shared with others at a much greater intensity than if the self acceptance process had not taken place. Instead of projecting ones own fears or darkness onto others, one can own them and work through them much more directly. There is the risk that it may affect ones will and health if this is not done in a careful and balanced manner, but the result is so sweet that it is more than worth it to come out on the other side of this self created challenge. We all knew the potentials before we came here anyway.

[Oceania]

Dont think all wanderers do but yeah I guess they have less ego, seeing as you need to lose it to evolve, and also mostly I think because their energy is higher and people can feel that (without knowing why) so they would be shunned, AND they would have small rememberances of not being part of society so they probably don't really want to be a part of it either..

low self esteem is different than no ego, i have low self esteem and it's an imbalance really. not good. i still have a big ego that refuses to die.

i remember always being treated or reacted to differently even when i tried to act assimilated. i didn't know why people could sense my weirdness, i still don't.

[3DMonkey]

Here's an idea.

The Wanderer enters in because of foolhardy love. They must see big plans for the love they are going to apply once they incarnate. Then.... THEN! they are stymied immediately by this thing we call the veiled human body thingy. How depressing to be flying along and have an anvil smack you 100 feet down to earth. 'I'm not offering love nearly to the level I had imagined. I am worth less than I thought I would be'

[kanonathena]

- low self esteem is different than no ego, i have low self esteem and it's an imbalance really. not good. i still have a big ego that refuses to die. i remember always being treated or reacted to differently even when i tried to act assimilated. i didn't know why people could sense my weirdness, i still don't.

I agree, self-esteem is who you are, ego is a barrier built to defend yourself. I have refused to work on my problem for a long time. My non-acceptance of self and other self even caused me dyslexia. Now through daily meditation for about 5 months, the problems are disappearing fast, especially in this month, no human interaction required! To anyone who hesitate to consciously work on their issues, daily meditation is highly recommended, there is no struggle whatsoever. Sometimes I feel meditation is almost like a form of cheating in spiritual development. I wonder is there to difference between working in a conscious manner through struggle and just meditating. It seems like meditation solves all problems. May be we can just be lazy and totally rely on meditation?

[BrownEye]

If a wanderer tends to have issues causing them not to fit in I would assume the resulting harassment from peers would program this self esteem problem into their OS or ego.

[unity100]

Is this because ego is less required in higher density?

self-esteem, self-worth are relevant to 6th chakra.

not only it is rather hard to activate it, but also after activation, there are other problems - if, the entity is positive in that chakra, that would mean it would lose a lot of energy from that chakra, since the society would be generally negative in that regard. this would rather leave the chakra undersupplied.

then the entity would need to learn proper balancing and psychical protection and whatever you may call it to keep a reasonable amount of energy in that chakra.

[Ankh]

I don't think that there is an universal rule or law about why each person have low self esteem issues. I think that it's different for each and one of us. And not only Wanderers struggle with this problem. All humanity 'suffers' from it, each and one of us. Then why, and how, we would choose to work with it - here comes that "take what resonates" part. Personally I would imagine that each time, for each thought, and/or emotion, and/or action, that I would regard as not "appropriate" or aligned with the path I wish to take, or pattern I wish to follow, from a higher perspective, I would program this "alarm clock" called low self esteem, to be ringing, like - "Pssst! Na-ah!" ;-)

[Confused]

12.30 Questioner: Do many of these Wanderers have physical ailments in this third-density situation? Ra: I am Ra. Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. The most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

[JoshC]

Idk, I think it'd be too big of a blanket statement to say all wanderers have low self-esteem. And the reasons for incarnating into a family unit where having low self esteem is likely are probably endless, but I'd say that a good reason to do that would be to get some sort of lesson or experience out of it. My self esteem is raising fairly steadily, in fact I'd hardly say I have low self-esteem any more. I defffffinitely used to, but it's not like it's something that has to matter that much. I hardly even think about self-esteem at all any more because it's practically a non-issue... And I mention this because I think that it really doesn't matter that much to begin with. If ya got it, get some more self-esteem! Life really is much better when you have more

[Nyu]

I used to have it because I knew something was different about me but I didnt know why. I'm not totally sure that I'm a wanderer because no ETs have contacted me to confirm, but I fit the bill I think, so I must be? Anyway once i realised that would explain a hell of a lot, presto, self esteem issues vanished. I don't really consider myself to have an ego though, we all have at least a small one or we wouldn't be here. I've never been comfortable with the concept of ego though.

[rva_jeremy]

I suppose it's tough to know that the most valuable thing you have to offer isn't appreciated by the wider society. It can seem natural for wanderers to want to love and serve everybody in a sort of universal, abstract sense, especially with so much suffering in the world. But that service will rarely be satisfying because we're in separate bodies closed off from direct experience of the social memory complex on purpose. So if you draw your sense of self from your ability to serve that wider social identity, it will be hard to maintain an emphasis on the things you wandered here to do.

That's why I believe it's really important that one's service to others be particular and personal: so you draw your self-esteem from genuine, deep relationships with one or a couple of good friends who can know and appreciate you. Seems to me that high self-esteem in wanderers usually stems from being able to find people, if only a few, who know who you are. If you can't find those people, the loneliness can be crushing.

[Richard]

If a wanderer tends to have issues causing them not to fit in I would assume the resulting harassment from peers would program this self esteem problem into their OS or ego.

But did the wanderer set up that harassment from peers with his/her future tormenters in order to experience the catalyst of low self esteem brought on by the act of torment?

This is one of the issues I have reconciling "Free Will" with the idea that this existance has been pre-planned. Or perhaps the pre-set scenarios that generate the catalyst of choice are what has been pre-planned? Still...its not exactly Free Will as I understand the term.

I don't know the answer. In 3D terms though, it just seems somehow skewed to me.

Richard

[godwide_void]

When placed in a position where one may feel intense feelings of alienation, social anxiety, and low self-esteem in contrast to the world around you it only ensures that the love attained after overcoming such catalysts will be particularly intense, moreso than if ones' life and emotions are smooth-sailing all life long.

I do happen to experience social anxiety and feel uncomfortable around people at times, despite having a keen comprehension of the Law of One. How do I deal with it? Remind myself that there is truly, truly nothing to fear, that all are aspects of the source of divine love and I am too, and these worries and insecurities are not real. No, they are distortions, which may be recognized as tools to work on in order to pierce them and end up at a point of unconditional and still love for onesself and others.

[BrownEye]

If a wanderer tends to have issues causing them not to fit in I would assume the resulting harassment from peers would program this self esteem problem into their OS or ego.

But did the wanderer set up that harassment from peers with his/her future tormenters in order to experience the catalyst of low self esteem brought on by the act of torment?

If you look at it as a game of variabiility, what are the chances of the wanderer remembering what they came here for? Free will for the Soul is involved in the jump into the game of chance, chance that is governed by a preset range of variability.

Looking at it from a singular standpoint, it might be like taking a trip to another city. You are choosing the destination based upon free will, allowing for the possibility of hitting a deer, getting a flat, blowing up the motor, or even getting in a head-on and cutting the specific game short. Everything has a variability, even predestiny. Point A to point B may appear to be a straight line, but you have all the others trying to get from point A to point B that cross your path simultaneously. That creates the game atmosphere LoL.

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I suppose it's tough to know that the most valuable thing you have to offer isn't appreciated by the wider society.

This is very true. This can cause internal disputes when the person is torn between doing what they "know" and what they were taught to know.

[unity100]

If a wanderer tends to have issues causing them not to fit in I would assume the resulting harassment from peers would program this self esteem problem into their OS or ego.

But did the wanderer set up that harassment from peers with his/her future tormenters in order to experience the catalyst of low self esteem brought on by the act of torment?

This is one of the issues I have reconciling "Free Will" with the idea that this existance has been pre-planned. Or perhaps the pre-set scenarios that generate the catalyst of choice are what has been pre-planned? Still...its not exactly Free Will as I understand the term.

I don't know the answer. In 3D terms though, it just seems somehow skewed to me.

Richard

i dont think they are setting up these at all. it seems more like either the current societal mind (2d orange conscious, and the negative 3d mindset) are effecting these, or negative entities are encouraging those people to undertake these acts.

[StormShadow]

And when others and self can not be accepted, there must be a projection put in place in the meantime. When this projection ultimately fails, there will be disappointment and anger - and the cycle continues, on and on.

Jesus. This is the deepest and most insightful thing I've read all week.

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Ra said that STO Wanderers are vulnerable to being caught up in 3D craziness and lose polarity. Too much self-esteem can make me think I'm better than everybody else, thus separate me from them. Solution: program low self-esteem into my personality. I should be grateful, I guess, having done it to myself.

This is pretty much how I see it. Wanderers (God, that word sounds so melodramatic) don't choose lives they'll enjoy too much, since they're hoping to only be here in the short term. Plus, at least in my case, I constantly suffer from the nagging feeling that everything is wrong, all wrong. People aren't supposed to be like this. I'm supposed to have more senses than this. Why does my mind only deal with one process at a time? Why can't I control my environment directly? How can human beings, if they are really that, say one thing, think another, and really believe that they're fooling me? And what benefit do they think they'll ultimately gain anyway? On and on like that. But when I try to find actual memories to serve as evidence that I'm remembering and not just thinking wishfully for unicorns to swoop down out of the sky, wave their magic horns, fart rainbows, and make my life better without my having to work at it, I find nothing.

Which leads me to believe that I'm not only borderline nuts, I'm also lazy and gullible.

NOT a self-esteem builder.

[Oceania]

i feel the same, Storm, i've asked myself those questions.

[Kiko]

It has no doubt all been said before, but I have always found seeing too clearly, feeling all the pain, being able to do so little about it, and becoming entangled myself, well ... just so sad. Balancing myself and feeling ok in knowing that everything is all right works fine, until I find myself forgetting who I am and being overcome again. I think a baking foil beanie is the only answer!

[Oceania]

jeeze my short term memory is goners, i just liked your post and then saw it had a like and checked who it was.

[seejay21]

I'm currently suffering a self-esteem, ego crushing issue myself. I'm going through a bad breakup. I've been with this wonderful woman for 3 1/2 years, and the last 18 months have been extremely painful at times. The issues are serious ones, involving loyalty, respect, and honor, and anger. We've been on and off and on again, but this time, it's over. The sad part that crushes me know is that she won't respond to me at all. My email, text, and phone calls go unanswered. It crushes me that she is unable to find the good things we had, and now she has no value of me at all.

Certainly, I don't need her to value me to know that I'm valued, but after so long, you end up measuring your self worth by how your best friends see you. When they stop being loyal to your heart it can make you really sad.

But more to the point of this thread, I think, as wanderers, we go above and beyond to make things right, to make things work, when the right "normal" thing to do is to let go.

[Confused]

When they stop being loyal to your heart it can make you really sad.

[kycahi]

The sad part that crushes me know is that she won't respond to me at all. My email, text, and phone calls go unanswered. It crushes me that she is unable to find the good things we had, and now she has no value of me at all.

You don't know why she doesn't respond. She may have come close a few times and then remembered her resolve to cut it off this time. If it really is over, she is doing the right thing. Wait a month.

I don't know you well enough to say this with any certainty at all, but in my case these things were always my rejected ego having the pain. It was severe, too! Very.

What to do now? I would say dive into what will keep you involved with something interesting. You are already on B4th, but maybe you could explore all of the oldest posts and derive some kind of document that puts order to the information in there. Better might be to come up with a few questions and look for answers there. Just an idea.

After being lost in the project, you will calm down enough to get on with life and vow to find another partner. I hope so, anyway. Good luck!

[seejay21]

@kycahi

Thanks for the practical advice. I'm trying to busy myself. It's the moments when it is quiet, like waking up in the morning, that are toughest.

I've survived other hardships, and I will make it through this one. For every ending there is a new beginning.

It will be okay... ugh..

[DanteRomero]

I speak from my experiences in this - and I may not have
the whole picture. My perception is that due to feeling
outside of society, they take on mental models which
suit that feeling - and therein limit themselves.

I used to struggle greatly with this problem - but in my
experience it is that A tends to happen when B happens.
Not A = B. They often begin with what may be called
"low self-esteem" but this can be shed.

Predisposition is not predestination.