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    Thread: Finding a place amongst Wanderers


    3DMonkey

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    #61
    04-06-2011, 07:31 PM
    I must apologize. I don't immerse myself into everyday groups of people. Therefore I forget what people are really like. I've recently been reminded of how different I really am. I've forgotten how closed persons actually can be.

    I really need to place myself inside the mix of groups. Draining, but ya know.

    Thank you everyone. In case I haven't said that.

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    #62
    04-06-2011, 10:44 PM
    I think that every decision we make can either increase or decrease our polarity. That's why I try to hold neutral, balanced thoughts. I find that now there is more catalyst, which I believe I am processing well. Have had challenges come up. That makes sense that we are our own judge. I sometimes set high expectations for myself, so I hope that on the other side I'm not too strict to where the bar is set too high. I could always have done better in my choices. But at least perfection isn't a requirement for 4D harvest.

    (03-26-2011, 01:49 AM)Ankh Wrote: I think that there are no galactic or universal or solar system judges who will decide whether you are 50% STO or 51, or more. Do you think that every thought, every emotion, every action of yours counts by any entities who judge whether it was STO or STS? I think that we are our own judges. And we, ourselves, decide what was STO or STS and how much of it, when we are ready for that process, reviewing our life. That we ourselves decide whether we made it or if we need more 3D lessons.

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    #63
    04-06-2011, 11:59 PM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 12:00 AM by transiten.)
    To post this comment, I walking waaaaaaay out in left field. With that said, I'd bet on 11 other signs before I'd bet on a Scorpio ever saying anything like that. Smile ..... jogging back into the dug out now....
    (03-12-2011, 07:18 PM)Namaste Wrote: This forum is for those who resonate deeply with the Law of One, the home density is negligible :¬)

    English not being my 1Confusedt language i dare to take this as a defense for the sign of scorpio Wink

    Can someone help a scorpio post with a quote and get "3DMonkey said"
    i can't figure out how to do that...

    transiten

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    #64
    04-07-2011, 12:39 AM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 12:42 AM by native.)
    Use quote= in brackets, and don't forget to end the quote. Or you can just reply to each post and edit out what you want if you only want to quote certain portions.

    transiten wants to quote 3DMonkey Wrote:Then copy and paste what you want

    Hit reply to this post and you'll be able to view the format.
    Plus there's the quote button next to "Reply" which brings up the quote directly in your reply.

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    #65
    04-07-2011, 03:24 AM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 03:35 AM by transiten.)
    Thanks Derek..

    ...but where do i find the "quotes"? ..and i did just that: replied to the post and and edited out what i didn't want but then there was no white field and highlighted rubric Huh

    OK i found the quotes...what does it mean =in brackets? I don't see any...

    ..and now i try to erase this message and it doesn't go away as i use the
    edit button Huh How do one get rid of a message?

    Gosh i thought i was a rather intelligent person... i have to reconsider Blush

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    Ocean (Offline)

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    #66
    04-07-2011, 03:33 AM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 03:33 AM by Ocean.)
    i think you take full edit and then delete?

    it's on the top of the page.

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    #67
    04-07-2011, 03:41 AM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 03:45 AM by transiten.)
    ...something is wrong here, as i try to reply to oceans post, my post comes up???
    I push NEW REPLY or Reply and MY post comes up...this mercury retrograde is one of the more annoying...
    My last post was made in "quick reply" and then it worked out allright, but when i tried to delete it like you said Ocean a page came up that told me i wasn't allowed to do this since i was not..and a long list followed..


    i give up for the time being..

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    3DMonkey

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    #68
    04-07-2011, 09:36 AM
    Aw! Say it. Curiosity!

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    04-07-2011, 10:51 AM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 02:34 PM by native.)
    We're not able to delete entire posts that were already made. For instance I can't go back and completely remove post 64.

    I'll make some screen shots for you, you're having technical difficulties lol.
    Click the images..they get bigger. To quote multiple posts in one reply, you click the + button, which turns red.

    [attachment=357]

    Then you scroll down to the Quick Reply area, and you click the highlighted text "Quote these posts now". This adds their text to your Quick Reply area.

    [attachment=358]

    To add another quote from someone else, you continue repeating the above process. Notice the highlighted areas..that is html code. Leave that intact. You can remove text from a persons post to condense a long response if you want to, quoting only a part of their post.

    [attachment=359]

    To add a quote from elsewhere, say a quote from a Ra session, you would manually create the html code like this..

    [attachment=360]


    I hope this helps. If you're only replying to one person, you would just reply to their post directly and it automatically quotes them, as you know. If you reply to two posts back to back, they automatically combine.
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    #70
    04-07-2011, 02:19 PM
    lol this is like teaching granma the VCR over the internet. Tongue

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    04-07-2011, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2011, 05:34 PM by native.)
    (03-12-2011, 03:13 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: Firstly: the majority of wanderers will not fully awake, which makes it likely that many of them won't reach 50% STO and graduate and will therefore repeat the 3D cycle; wanderers don't get an easy ticket out. I hope that makes you feel better.

    I think you're mistaken brother. It helps, but being awake isn't a requirement to polarize.

    When a wanderer incarnates, it's not as if their polarity is reset. Generally speaking they will be kind people knowing right from wrong and this is all that's needed. They still hold a high vibration able to anchor in the higher energies, so they will be born with a bias towards kindness. Remember that wanderers use 3d catalyst to quickly polarize themselves even more than what their home density would provide. So they incarnate polarized.

    Their polarization would only be affected if they karmically bind themselves through negative actions. Depending on how much damage you do, hehe, you might only have to incarnate again and resolve it..not repeat 3d. A wanderer could be asleep the entire incarnation and still return to their home density.
    (04-07-2011, 02:19 PM)Ocean Wrote: lol this is like teaching granma the VCR over the internet. Tongue

    haha, i did my best
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    04-08-2011, 01:08 PM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 02:44 PM by transiten.)
    Thanks a LOT Derek

    Ocean, Grandma will study this in a while!

    ...and 3DM
    I actually suspect i could be your grandma even if i don't look or act like one all the time <Lol>

    transiten-guess my age

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    #73
    04-08-2011, 02:27 PM
    Derek, a wanderer could reincarnate so close to 2012 without getting sucked into 3D? how does that work exactly?

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    3DMonkey

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    04-08-2011, 03:26 PM
    (04-08-2011, 01:08 PM)transiten Wrote: Thanks a LOT Derek

    Ocean, Grandma will study this in a while!

    ...and 3DM
    I actually suspect i could be your grandma even if i don't look or act like one all the time <Lol>

    transiten-guess my age

    Do you have a tail?

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    #75
    04-08-2011, 03:34 PM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 03:40 PM by native.)
    You're welcome transiten.

    Ocean, i'm not sure what you're asking but.. - Each successive incarnation is to build upon one's polarization. I don't see any logic or sense in wandering if you were to incarnate in 3d only to start from scratch in hopes that you polarize 51%. I understand the danger of karma and how we're held to the same standards and must do the inner work etc. If you wander, be a kind person, and don't get involved in any karma a wanderer should be fine as long as they're polarized.

    Maybe I'm forgetting something though, or just confusing myself.

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    04-08-2011, 04:54 PM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2011, 04:55 PM by Ocean.)
    if you get "karmically involved" then wake up polarize 51% but you have not atoned for example or learned enough... what happens?
    i guess i'm wondering what it means to be karmically involved when you're polarized, or if you polarize and therefore are not karmically involved regardless of past actions?

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    04-08-2011, 06:29 PM
    Ra has said that just being here is an act of service..the wanderer is answering a call. So incarnating here to help would be polarizing. While a wanderer may not be awake and consciously aware of their service, they are still acting in service and anchoring in the vibrations. This would be polarizing.

    To be karmically involved means that you caused something that had an effect which needs to be resolved somehow. Generally it is acting in an unloving manner..causing emotional pain or hardship etc, putting into motion events that caused who knows what. If you didn't depolarize yourself enough you could still return home, but you would have to incarnate here again or on another 3d planet after the harvest I imagine and work through the same lesson. There is still enough time so far to incarnate, given we have up to 700 years for now. Deeply understanding the situation and forgiveness of the self within the incarnation would resolve it also..committing to never make the same mistake again.

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    04-08-2011, 06:48 PM
    if you reincarnate on another 3D planet doesn't that mean you put yourself in danger of getting karmically involved? so basically wandering and then how do you get home?

    and if you realize you did wrong, and polarize then why is there still karma?

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    04-08-2011, 06:57 PM
    (04-08-2011, 06:48 PM)Ocean Wrote: and if you realize you did wrong, and polarize then why is there still karma?

    You have to forgive yourself. Poof! Karma is gone.

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    04-08-2011, 06:59 PM
    oh darn.

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    04-08-2011, 07:15 PM (This post was last modified: 04-09-2011, 12:38 AM by native.)
    There's always a risk of incurring karma again. But the veil creating the forgetting sets up the conditions to see if you truly learned your lesson. So you may be put in the same situation with different people to see how you react, or if possible you interact directly with those you created karma with to see if you can work through your misunderstandings.

    Karma is about resolution that isn't necessarily tied to how it polarized you. I can't speak specifically about how much karma decreases your polarity, and then how much it increases through becoming a more loving person. It is simply an action that needs to be healed so to speak.

    Quote:18.12 Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but also the forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.

    Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

    34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

    Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

    34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalysts that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.

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    #82
    04-08-2011, 10:01 PM
    To be honest, no one here really knows (unless through some strange revelation that makes at best a subjective conviction) that they're a wanderer. You're fine here, we're all in 3D anyways, and all on this forum are working towards STO whether having met 51% or not. Keep on keepin on!

    Peace and Love
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    04-09-2011, 12:08 AM
    (04-08-2011, 10:01 PM)JoshC Wrote: To be honest, no one here really knows (unless through some strange revelation that makes at best a subjective conviction) that they're a wanderer.

    Quote:36.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one short one before we close. Can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are, and finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?

    Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.
    Looks like around 9%, or probably well over a million.
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    04-09-2011, 03:41 AM
    Oh! I like that... "make sense". The entire LOO seems to make sense to me.... In my own way of course. We all argue semantics, but if "make sense" gives us an idea of our awakened state, indeed make sense, it does! That's another way of saying resonates, IMO. It fits. I get it. I'm down with this scene man. Eureka. Vibrates right down to my core. Makes sense.
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    04-09-2011, 04:39 AM
    Hallelujah! BigSmile

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    11-28-2011, 06:51 PM
    I LOVE this thread! Maybe I need to skip reading "today's posts" and start digging through some of the older stuff.

    I'm more with you, Monkey - I'm not sure if I'm a wanderer or not. Who cares about titles? I don't. I, too, recall several past lives, some recent, a couple of them concurrent, some 2D (are dolphins 2D?). But LOO really does make sense to me! Vibrates down to my core! And I'm totally down with this scene, dude!

    Love and light!
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    11-28-2011, 07:05 PM (This post was last modified: 11-28-2011, 07:07 PM by Conifer16.)
    All I know is that I knew this stuff as fact (even of it was in a more abstract form before reading TLOO) since I can remember. speculating further is pointless until I actually ask and even when I do ask and get an answer what does it matter. We aren't here to figure out who we are when not here, but to help people and spread love.(which has probably been said already)

    -Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus

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    And damn! 300+ posts. I should go back through them and see how I have changed in the last year Smile it should be fun Smile (am I bothering you with my strong use of smilies(sp?))
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    11-28-2011, 07:07 PM
    Conifer16 - you've inspired me more times than I can tell you! Might even go start a new thread soon - but right now have to cook dinner for my sweetie who is working 6 days X 10 hours with a 2 hour a day commute!

    Later!

    Meanwhile Light and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE!!!!!
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    11-28-2011, 07:47 PM
    Quote: 3DMonkey, he meant it as a rhetorical question. He's implying that if you weren't a wanderer you would not be interested in the LOO.
    I am not a wanderer, yet I have an interest. I must have broke something.Angel
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    11-28-2011, 07:50 PM
    I am either a wanderer, or I have a bias for compassion for others. It's quite a sensitive thing.

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