the ultimate act of compassion - Japan

[Confused]

Technically, you cannot be accused of articulating something wrong. Extracted from 7.17 -

To serve yourself and to serve others is a dual method of saying the same thing, if you can understand the essence of the Law of One.

Is not serve oneself is to serve all? Are you not all thing? Are not everyone come from the same place as you or I? Just a thought... And it might be provocative...

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Thanks for the timely reminder, unity100.

[3DMonkey]

Technically, you cannot be accused of articulating something wrong. Extracted from 7.17 -

To serve yourself and to serve others is a dual method of saying the same thing, if you can understand the essence of the Law of One.

Is not serve oneself is to serve all? Are you not all thing? Are not everyone come from the same place as you or I? Just a thought... And it might be provocative...

The thing is, we aren't separate. Serve others, serve self. There is no other, there is no self. Only One.

It's all good. Everything happens for a reason because there is one reason that everything happens.

STO and STS are scientific explanations.

[Confused]

The thing is, we aren't separate. Serve others, serve self. There is no other, there is no self. Only One.

That is very true. And in my opinion, the main reason why those of distinctly STS are able to exploit the system well, to their advantage.

Unless the planners of experiments take such loopholes into count, STS will always have an edge over STO, especially in current earth-like environments, anywhere in infinite creation. That is my humble opinion, and in a way, my learning offered into the fire of the ONE. I have no hatred for the negative though, for as you say, everything is one, for the good or the bad.

May the One Infinite Creator rescue me from this tiresome game of duality :-/

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And it might be provocative

And being provocative to explore deeper spiritual topics is good, when you have the company of those who do not judge you for asking the tough questions. I hope you find in me, such a person, Ankh.

I think adopting a 'holier than thou' attitude while dealing with tough existential questions from another seeker does no good for anyone.

[Ankh]

And being provocative to explore deeper spiritual topics is good, when you have the company of those who do not judge you for asking the tough questions. I hope you find in me, such a person, Ankh.

I think adopting a 'holier than thou' attitude while dealing with tough existential questions from another seeker does no good for anyone.

[3DMonkey]

The thing is, we aren't separate. Serve others, serve self. There is no other, there is no self. Only One.

That is very true. And in my opinion, the main reason why those of distinctly STS are able to exploit the system well, to their advantage.

Unless the planners of experiments take such loopholes into count, STS will always have an edge over STO, especially in current earth-like environments, anywhere in infinite creation. That is my humble opinion, and in a way, my learning offered into the fire of the ONE. I have no hatred for the negative though, for as you say, everything is one, for the good or the bad.

May the One Infinite Creator rescue me from this tiresome game of duality :-/

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Advantage? Edge? That VERY MUCH depends on how one looks at it. I understand your meaning, but I am pointing out that STO can be seen with a distinct edge or advantage of it's own.

I often wonder how much "awareness" a negative-path-chosen entity actually has. We see our own STS tendencies and generally equate them to our own ignorance or ego-failures. It is said that STO doesn't require awareness, but I think awareness was my first step in choosing a positive path as I assume is the same for most here in forum. I wonder if even the top of the STS hierarchy are aware of wholeness, or if they are simply intensely overly sensitized and clouded by separateness (greed, power, anger, lust, ....FEAR)

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Take power out, it is anger and fear. Lust and greed are too similar. Take greed out. Anger, fear, and lust then. But anger is directly linked to fear. Fear and Lust then.

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STS- fear for the safety from lustful evil ones vs lust for the fear of freightened ones

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STO- awareness that there is only One. One being in one time. Acceptance of the totality of this One.

[unity100]

The thing is, we aren't separate. Serve others, serve self. There is no other, there is no self. Only One.

That is very true. And in my opinion, the main reason why those of distinctly STS are able to exploit the system well, to their advantage.

Unless the planners of experiments take such loopholes into count, STS will always have an edge over STO, especially in current earth-like environments, anywhere in infinite creation. That is my humble opinion, and in a way, my learning offered into the fire of the ONE. I have no hatred for the negative though, for as you say, everything is one, for the good or the bad.

May the One Infinite Creator rescue me from this tiresome game of duality :-/

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And it might be provocative

And being provocative to explore deeper spiritual topics is good, when you have the company of those who do not judge you for asking the tough questions. I hope you find in me, such a person, Ankh.

I think adopting a 'holier than thou' attitude while dealing with tough existential questions from another seeker does no good for anyone.

tools greatly magnify the effect of individual mind/body/spirit complex on its environment. disproportionately to its spiritual mass.

[zenmaster]

STS- fear for the safety from lustful evil ones vs lust for the fear of freightened ones

STS is repression based which creates separation. Fear is the emotion of separation. It's non-acceptance of other as the same as self and the natural consequences of that attitude. The STS entity's natural power over STO comes from the fact that it understands more of the logos in those areas that STO entities choose to ignore. And vice-versa for STO's power over STS.

STO- awareness that there is only One. One being in one time. Acceptance of the totality of this One.

'Awareness that there is only One' starts at 6th density, when there is unity and no polarity due to unconscious position. It's actually procedural knowledge at that point. That makes sense because duality is separation, whether it's STO or STS based. So STO is clearly not awareness that there is only One.

Rather, the STO position, still being locked in duality, is the potential created by using the will in a manner that merely recognizes that serving others is the same as serving the self. Of course, that is not even close to same thing as awareness that there is only One.

As Ra says, polarity is the potential to do work. The way I see it is that potential is a conscious disposition or 'distortion' which effectively 'informs creation' to create opportunity for service. The logos determines the viability or effectiveness of the disposition - just like it does in nature with physical laws.

Thus over time, we learn what the logos, or 'love' is - (i.e. as a 'schema'). The act of 'loving' slowly evolves from an unconscious need to express compassion in order to fill a perceived gap (3D) , to a role where one understands the nature of love (4D), to a role where one's awareness recognizes the appropriate application or expression of love (light) (5D), then to one where the expression and the application may be seen as the same thing (love=light).

[3DMonkey]

The thing is, we aren't separate. Serve others, serve self. There is no other, there is no self. Only One.

That is very true. And in my opinion, the main reason why those of distinctly STS are able to exploit the system well, to their advantage.

Unless the planners of experiments take such loopholes into count, STS will always have an edge over STO, especially in current earth-like environments, anywhere in infinite creation. That is my humble opinion, and in a way, my learning offered into the fire of the ONE. I have no hatred for the negative though, for as you say, everything is one, for the good or the bad.

May the One Infinite Creator rescue me from this tiresome game of duality :-/

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Advantage? Edge? That VERY MUCH depends on how one looks at it. I understand your meaning, but I am pointing out that STO can be seen with a distinct edge or advantage of it's own.

I often wonder how much "awareness" a negative-path-chosen entity actually has. We see our own STS tendencies and generally equate them to our own ignorance or ego-failures. It is said that STO doesn't require awareness, but I think awareness was my first step in choosing a positive path as I assume is the same for most here in forum. I wonder if even the top of the STS hierarchy are aware of wholeness, or if they are simply intensely overly sensitized and clouded by separateness (greed, power, anger, lust, ....FEAR)

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Take power out, it is anger and fear. Lust and greed are too similar. Take greed out. Anger, fear, and lust then. But anger is directly linked to fear. Fear and Lust then.

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STS- fear for the safety from lustful evil ones vs lust for the fear of freightened ones

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STO- awareness that there is only One. One being in one time. Acceptance of the totality of this One.

This is my description of polarity within third density provided by my intuition and my sixth density higher self. It is not a description of densities. Albeit, there is not true separation between densities either. All is One. I apologize for touting "all is one" whilst I continue to differentiate polarities

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The fourth and fifth densities are quite independent, the positive polarity functioning with no need of negative and visa-versa. It is to be noted that in attempting to sway third-density mind/body/spirit complexes in choosing polarity there evolves a good bit of interaction between the two polarities. In sixth density, the density of unity, the positive and negative paths must needs take in each other for all now must be seen as love/light and light/love. This is not difficult for the positive polarity which sends love and light to all other-selves. It is difficult enough for service-to-self polarized entities that at some point the negative polarity is abandoned.

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Awareness is the second step in creation. Awareness of the One is awareness that there is love in this moment. Awareness of Love is awareness of the pattern of existence. Awareness of the pattern of existence is awareness that all in One. Everything happens for a reason because the One is the source of all things that happen.

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I suppose it would help you, zenmaster, if I rephrased it a bit to read STO is awareness of the Law of One.

" The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously see that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking empowers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential."

[unity100]

'Awareness that there is only One' starts at 6th density, when there is unity and no polarity due to unconscious position. It's actually procedural knowledge at that point.

'there is only one' actually debatable.

as we know, logos created each of the densities to reflect a particular meaning pertaining to the nature of infinite intelligence. movement, progress/development/self, more than one, acceptance/rejection, communication/noncommunication

and,

unity/unison.

so, unity/unison, perspective of 'one', is the emphasized meaning of the 6th density. there is still a density after 6th. that is 7th. there will come up another meaning of existence in 7th. which, ra yet do not fully know.

moreover, everything being in unison may be 'one', but it may not necessarily be interpreted as 'single'. because there is also manyness in that existence.

'since there is only one intelligent infinity, isnt service to self mean service to others ....' -> nay, at that level, ie, intelligent infinity, the meaning of 'single/one' may not be valid.

since everything is merged with its counterpart towards infinity, it means that the concepts 'many' and 'one' will also be merging to create a combination for which neither many, nor one is valid.

so, the rationalization that ' since there is only one infinite intelligence' becomes invalid -> infinite intelligence is not one, or many. infinite intelligence, is infinite intelligence.

it is highly possible that in 7d, it may be learned that service to self is not equal to service to others because 'it is not one as in single', and instead there needs to be a balance in all things inside themselves. however that is at this point, speculation from what we currently have been told.

[zenmaster]

I suppose it would help you, zenmaster, if I rephrased it a bit to read STO is awareness of the Law of One.

Can't see that it does at all. STO is not an awareness of the Law of One, however awareness of Law of One may be considered STO, however.

For example, one may be 99% STO in 3rd density and be completely oblivious to the Law of One. One also may live millions of years in 4th density, completely understand love, and be completely oblivious to the Law of One. So the statement would seem to be incorrect.

[3DMonkey]

I suppose it would help you, zenmaster, if I rephrased it a bit to read STO is awareness of the Law of One.

Can't see that it does at all. STO is not an awareness of the Law of One, however awareness of Law of One may be considered STO, however.

For example, one may be 99% STO in 3rd density and be completely oblivious to the Law of One. One also may live millions of years in 4th density, completely understand love, and be completely oblivious to the Law of One. So the statement would seem to be incorrect.

Yes. It is an incorrect statement if viewed as a definitive rule for sto. I wasn't trying to do that. I was openly expressing a thought. You see, it is correct to openly express. Like a carbon dioxide molecule that leaves your lungs and flows by the rules of the logos to a new destination serving the creator, an open thought takes flight and we know not where it lands or for what purpose.

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since everything is merged with its counterpart towards infinity, it means that the concepts 'many' and 'one' will also be merging to create a combination for which neither many, nor one is valid.

so, the rationalization that ' since there is only one infinite intelligence' becomes invalid -> infinite intelligence is not one, or many. infinite intelligence, is infinite intelligence.

Yes. I find this to be of great value. Contemplation on this line of thinking leads to a greater view of what One is.

In relation to discussion, I think it is interesting to imagine what densities higher than third are like, but the truth is we only have a third density ability to examine them. Every single word found in this forum, this Internet, this world, and even Ra's seemingly sixth density words are all derived and of use in third density work. Period. Much like infinite intelligence can only truly be defined as infinite intelligence, what happens in 3D can only truly be for 3D.

[Ankh]

it is highly possible that in 7d, it may be learned that service to self is not equal to service to others because 'it is not one as in single', and instead there needs to be a balance in all things inside themselves. however that is at this point, speculation from what we currently have been told.

Service to self is not equal to service to others from our point of view, that is 3D. Yet, RA tells that it is a dual method of saying the same thing, if one believes in Law of One of course. Balance of all thing inside the self, might be nothing else that full realisation of that you are all things, ei STO and STS, and I am going to be very surprised if I meet in 6/7D entities who went throught this whole creation without being both, at least at some point. But as you said, it is only speculations. RA also tell that meaning/purpose for many Wanderers incarnating in 3D is rapid progression towards the polarisation if they become awaken, which means that one needs to polarise. Honestly I was a bit dissapointed when I realised that part reading LOO. That there is nothing more to do/realise/be than just polarise. Service to others/or self - that's it, you graduate and you are out of here. I thought that it would be more.

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That makes sense because duality is separation, whether it's STO or STS based. So STO is clearly not awareness that there is only One.

Rather, the STO position, still being locked in duality, is the potential created by using the will in a manner that merely recognizes that serving others is the same as serving the self. Of course, that is not even close to same thing as awareness that there is only One.

This is the part where all my bells were ringing in a resonance tone. Yet, I wonder how benefitial it is to ponder such issues in 3D, as we will never know the answers being here. These answers will come from inside, later, because there are no galactic, valid for all, answers. This is something that we have to reach on our own, from inside, in my opinion at least. I sometimes envy people who don't have the need of deeper pondering than just - be good to yourself and others, and the rest will come to you.

[unity100]

Service to self is not equal to service to others from our point of view, that is 3D. Yet, RA tells that it is a dual method of saying the same thing, if one believes in Law of One of course. Balance of all thing inside the self, might be nothing else that full realisation of that you are all things, ei STO and STS, and I am going to be very surprised if I meet in 6/7D entities who went throught this whole creation without being both, at least at some point. But as you said, it is only speculations. RA also tell that meaning/purpose for many Wanderers incarnating in 3D is rapid progression towards the polarisation if they become awaken, which means that one needs to polarise. Honestly I was a bit dissapointed when I realised that part reading LOO. That there is nothing more to do/realise/be than just polarise. Service to others/or self - that's it, you graduate and you are out of here. I thought that it would be more.

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you, i, are not 'all things'

conceptually being infinite in principle or inwards, does not make us in practice all things.

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.........These distortions remove the focus from the One Infinite Source of love and light of which we are all messengers, humble and knowing that we, of ourselves, are but the tiniest portion of the Creator, a small part of a magnificent entirety of infinite intelligence......

see how Ra describes themselves. a small part of a magnificent entirety of infinite intelligence.

so no, you and i and others are not 'all things' and can never be 'all things' by only their own self. its metaphorical, its a 'in-principle' proposition. there are more than one entity below infinite intelligence. there can never be one entity.

and from infinite intelligence and upwards, the word and concept 'one', 'single', 'many' lose their meaning. infinite intelligence is not one, or it is not many. it is also one and also many at the same time. the conceptualization that 'since there is only one infinite intelligence/infinity, it is one' only works from perspective of anything downwards from infinite intelligence. it becomes invalid at that level, because at that level there is both one, and there is both many.

the best approximation in this case would be 'we'.

you, me, others can only constitute infinite intelligence altogether.

combination of all existing entities forming a 'one' from finite perspective, but actually being a combination of many at the same time - this is infinity. the one/single and endlessly many combine to constitute infinite intelligence. exclude one 'many' from this infinite intelligence, and it wont be infinite anymore.

and even after that, there is still the route towards infinity, from infinite intelligence.

[3DMonkey]

Imagine this one finite incarnation called a lifetime. It is one. My lifetime is made up of what seems to be an infinite amount of moments, or pieces of time. All of these pieces make up the One lifetime in this analogy. In addition, each moment contains a space location, pieces of space, that is made up of vibrations of energy and laws of physical existence of densitites. All of these pieces of space and time make up this One lifetime, keeping with the analogy. Now imagine that the only thing that exists is this very moment. Now it's a new moment. And, yet, now this is a new moment and only what exists. This One lifetime is this moment. The One lifetime is One, made up of all pieces, and this new moment now is part of the whole and necessary for the One to exist together as a whole, as One.
I think this is what the "One" means, and can be applied to the greater infinity of lifetimes through densities together that constitutes One.
We could also use the body as an analogy with it's many seemingly separate pieces that make up he whole. (blood cells, bone cells, colon bacteria, proteins, etc. ) The One body is reliant on each piece every second. We are like the molecules in the body- necessary to the One.

[Ankh]

you, i, are not 'all things'

Maybe there is a matter of semantics here. What I meant is that, under the "right" circumstances, all entities are able of everything. (I also remember Ra said something like that one complex is containing macrocosmos in microcosmos. I might be wrong.)

conceptually being infinite in principle or inwards, does not make us in practice all things.

Of course not, but they might exist in potential, and I think that there is some kind of individual "map" to follow for each of us. Pondering whether we all tried it all or not, is fruitless, as we do not know that being behind the veil. My earlier ponderings regarding "you are all things, STS/STO being dual method of same" etc, was about me trying to understand/see everyone as same, and find love for all. I don't remember who said it, but there is someone on this forum who wrote that turning back on STS might reinforce their notion that there is no one else to trust than the self. And I don't want to be part of it.

However, being in 3D with limited perspective can not not make us to polarise actually. For instance, when we see rape either we enjoy it, or we don't. And the same comes with all the expressions of power over others/equality of all, either you like this or that. Either you want to follow this path, or that. But it comes gradually.

People that are trying to find their way to the expression of the universal love, for instance, can't just over a night start to love everybody. They start with expressing their love towards those who give them love back, and in the beginning they might get stuck when it's not. You, my love, have been wondering about that yourself in some posts. In my opinion, light of wisdom in this density though can be applied where one meets someone that is hurting others self and do not respond to love. What to do? Being STO means that we have to do something as this entity hurt others self. We can not jump from this situation into 6D understanding and let it be, seeing only love/light. But we can however apply light and stop him by those means that are necessary. And I think that we can come much farther by combining this light with love and compassion for the offender. Something, that 3DM, allready stated here.

there are more than one entity below infinite intelligence. there can never be one entity.

It is not, if you mean by “below infinite intelligence” the creation which we are experiencing right now. What is "above" is the speculation, that Ra put in one word. Unity. Like your beautiful username.

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There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy.

[3DMonkey]

Well said Ankh. We are what we are and that is perfect for all.

[unity100]

you, i, are not 'all things'

Maybe there is a matter of semantics here. What I meant is that, under the "right" circumstances, all entities are able of everything. (I also remember Ra said something like that one complex is containing macrocosmos in microcosmos. I might be wrong.)

yes. quite right. yet, as you have seen in the quote i mentioned, ra also says things like being 'the tiniest portion of the infinite creator' and so on.

It is not, if you mean by “below infinite intelligence” the creation which we are experiencing right now. What is "above" is the speculation, that Ra put in one word. Unity. Like your beautiful username.

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There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy.

'below infinite intelligence' is not the creation we are experiencing right now.

'below infinite intelligence' means everything including the first logos of all existence. and in consequence, includes all infinite octaves that is there in past and future (for us). and all parallel universes existing in these octaves, and whatever else there is.

the quote you mention, describes infinity as unity first, then describes infinite intelligence as unify having potential and kinetic.