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    aWanderer91

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    #1
    12-14-2021, 07:11 PM
    Hi all,

    So my questions here might seem simple and lacking wisdom of my own journey. However, the clarification I could receive here would really help clear up those gaps in my psyche that would really power me forward.

    So to be a wanderer, requires us to incarnate into 3rd density, which means to leave our home vibration and attend to a 3rd density planet, or maybe it doesn't require us to leave as our higher self resides in mid 6th density. So we choose to have a parallel experience as both a 6th density entity and a 3rd density entity. Which one is which?

    Ra explains that to be a wanderer requires foolhardiness and bravery, yet it must take more than that, for we must have a family of souls back home that we may never return to. The last sentence makes my heart ache, as our soul family would not be just souls we have passively loved, but beings we have spent millions if not billions of years with. Yet we choose to risk the forgetting process at the cost of not being able to return to them, should we get caught up in the wheel of karma and have to repeat 3rd density. This makes the love we must have with our soul family seem fickle and easily wasted, which I know it is not. If caught into the 3rd density planetary vibration, do we not only repeat the 75000 year cycle but also traverse all the densities back up to 6th density?

    I understand that great thought must go into a wanderers incarnation, and that the confederation would do everything within their power while also operating under the law of free will to activate a wanderer and to ensure that not only is their mission completed but also that we return home. But where is the love, in terms of being a wanderer? Most would think this is a stupid question I imagine, of course the love is to serve as a higher density being and to help a 3rd density planet. But to leave what could possible be our soul mate (if we have one, or maybe they incarnate with us) and our other brothers and sisters to such a risk staggers my intellect. I don't mean to come across as selfish as my main point here is couldn't we do more from the inner planes etc than to incarnate in. Then this beggars the response, maybe to incarnate in we were pretty sure we could fulfill our purpose of serving others with more efficiency than operating from the inner planes, with the added reassurance from back home (the confederation) that they would activate us correctly when the time came.

    I let these words flow and would love to here from you wise ones, as these thoughts have been rattling within my mind for quite some time now. I have studied the Law of One quite intensely and ultimately see the answer as that our 6th density self is progressing just smoothly while we are here. Meaning we never left to begin with. Then what I have written contains so many paradoxes, as if I am ignoring this fact. However to a current 3rd density mind/body/spirit complex like myself, this requires some explaining I believe.

    This is all mumbo jumbo but your answers would mean the world.

    Thank you for reading!
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    12-14-2021, 10:26 PM
    (12-14-2021, 07:11 PM)aWanderer91 Wrote: Hi all,

    So my questions here might seem simple and lacking wisdom of my own journey. However, the clarification I could receive here would really help clear up those gaps in my psyche that would really power me forward.

    So to be a wanderer, requires us to incarnate into 3rd density, which means to leave our home vibration and attend to a 3rd density planet, or maybe it doesn't require us to leave as our higher self resides in mid 6th density. So we choose to have a parallel experience as both a 6th density entity and a 3rd density entity. Which one is which?

    Ra explains that to be a wanderer requires foolhardiness and bravery, yet it must take more than that, for we must have a family of souls back home that we may never return to. The last sentence makes my heart ache, as our soul family would not be just souls we have passively loved, but beings we have spent millions if not billions of years with. Yet we choose to risk the forgetting process at the cost of not being able to return to them, should we get caught up in the wheel of karma and have to repeat 3rd density. This makes the love we must have with our soul family seem fickle and easily wasted, which I know it is not. If caught into the 3rd density planetary vibration, do we not only repeat the 75000 year cycle but also traverse all the densities back up to 6th density?

    I understand that great thought must go into a wanderers incarnation, and that the confederation would do everything within their power while also operating under the law of free will to activate a wanderer and to ensure that not only is their mission completed but also that we return home. But where is the love, in terms of being a wanderer? Most would think this is a stupid question I imagine, of course the love is to serve as a higher density being and to help a 3rd density planet. But to leave what could possible be our soul mate (if we have one, or maybe they incarnate with us) and our other brothers and sisters to such a risk staggers my intellect. I don't mean to come across as selfish as my main point here is couldn't we do more from the inner planes etc than to incarnate in. Then this beggars the response, maybe to incarnate in we were pretty sure we could fulfill our purpose of serving others with more efficiency than operating from the inner planes, with the added reassurance from back home (the confederation) that they would activate us correctly when the time came.

    I let these words flow and would love to here from you wise ones, as these thoughts have been rattling within my mind for quite some time now. I have studied the Law of One quite intensely and ultimately see the answer as that our 6th density self is progressing just smoothly while we are here. Meaning we never left to begin with. Then what I have written contains so many paradoxes, as if I am ignoring this fact. However to a current 3rd density mind/body/spirit complex like myself, this requires some explaining I believe.

    This is all mumbo jumbo but your answers would mean the world.

    Thank you for reading!


    Hi aWanderer91,
    a lovely post,  full of humble questions.. Wink  as we all have them too at some points.
    I am hardly the best to answer as I doubt I am myself a wanderer, so take this more like some intuitive thoughts that I have on this question.
    I am sure others will offer better enlightening thinking.

    First I  have a feeling that as wanderer, most probably, as you were planning offering your incarnation to come down here, some others, as friends, perhaps 'soul mates',   do plan to incarnate too, unless so wise as probably are  so many entities of 6th density,  they plan this alone, even though this might for us seem 'unwise' lol.  

    I also have a feeling that as one wanderer matures in 3D and may discover meditation, this might procure a nice safeguard to stay in the path of  service to others.     Even standard media is starting now to have positive news pages or newsletters and it makes one's heart really sing to see so many unknown people accomplishing so many extraordinary things quietly in their own corner.

     I know that when I first read Ra, I was too pretty astounded at the idea of the risk, thinking, well when I become a higher density one, I think I shall just stay put, lol

    Thanks you aW1  Wink

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    12-15-2021, 01:32 AM
    When I read your post, I picked up on a sense of confusion: why in the world would wanderers risk 4D-6D bliss to come down here in the 3D trenches? I felt similarly when I was taking in the idea of a wanderer. 

    Then I remembered, oh yeah, it's just my 3D brain trying to grasp a 4D-6D choice. And, I simply don't know enough to begin to fathom how all of this works. Our concepts of family and soul mates are probably not the same as their concepts. As members of SMCs, for instance, is there any concept of a distinct individual within the collective any longer? If not, what exactly is a wanderer - a 3D MBS - composed of?

    To consider separating from loved ones for a human lifetime likely causes many of us humans discomfort. Wanderers, on the other hand, likely have a completely different perspective of time and family. They probably see that we are one/infinite being more than I am capable of seeing that. And, I intuitively believe that there is no permanent loss of connection to their loved ones.
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    aWanderer91

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    12-15-2021, 08:55 AM
    (12-14-2021, 10:26 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (12-14-2021, 07:11 PM)aWanderer91 Wrote: Hi all,

    So my questions here might seem simple and lacking wisdom of my own journey. However, the clarification I could receive here would really help clear up those gaps in my psyche that would really power me forward.

    So to be a wanderer, requires us to incarnate into 3rd density, which means to leave our home vibration and attend to a 3rd density planet, or maybe it doesn't require us to leave as our higher self resides in mid 6th density. So we choose to have a parallel experience as both a 6th density entity and a 3rd density entity. Which one is which?

    Ra explains that to be a wanderer requires foolhardiness and bravery, yet it must take more than that, for we must have a family of souls back home that we may never return to. The last sentence makes my heart ache, as our soul family would not be just souls we have passively loved, but beings we have spent millions if not billions of years with. Yet we choose to risk the forgetting process at the cost of not being able to return to them, should we get caught up in the wheel of karma and have to repeat 3rd density. This makes the love we must have with our soul family seem fickle and easily wasted, which I know it is not. If caught into the 3rd density planetary vibration, do we not only repeat the 75000 year cycle but also traverse all the densities back up to 6th density?

    I understand that great thought must go into a wanderers incarnation, and that the confederation would do everything within their power while also operating under the law of free will to activate a wanderer and to ensure that not only is their mission completed but also that we return home. But where is the love, in terms of being a wanderer? Most would think this is a stupid question I imagine, of course the love is to serve as a higher density being and to help a 3rd density planet. But to leave what could possible be our soul mate (if we have one, or maybe they incarnate with us) and our other brothers and sisters to such a risk staggers my intellect. I don't mean to come across as selfish as my main point here is couldn't we do more from the inner planes etc than to incarnate in. Then this beggars the response, maybe to incarnate in we were pretty sure we could fulfill our purpose of serving others with more efficiency than operating from the inner planes, with the added reassurance from back home (the confederation) that they would activate us correctly when the time came.

    I let these words flow and would love to here from you wise ones, as these thoughts have been rattling within my mind for quite some time now. I have studied the Law of One quite intensely and ultimately see the answer as that our 6th density self is progressing just smoothly while we are here. Meaning we never left to begin with. Then what I have written contains so many paradoxes, as if I am ignoring this fact. However to a current 3rd density mind/body/spirit complex like myself, this requires some explaining I believe.

    This is all mumbo jumbo but your answers would mean the world.

    Thank you for reading!


    Hi aWanderer91,
    a lovely post,  full of humble questions.. Wink  as we all have them too at some points.
    I am hardly the best to answer as I doubt I am myself a wanderer, so take this more like some intuitive thoughts that I have on this question.
    I am sure others will offer better enlightening thinking.

    First I  have a feeling that as wanderer, most probably, as you were planning offering your incarnation to come down here, some others, as friends, perhaps 'soul mates',   do plan to incarnate too, unless so wise as probably are  so many entities of 6th density,  they plan this alone, even though this might for us seem 'unwise' lol.  

    I also have a feeling that as one wanderer matures in 3D and may discover meditation, this might procure a nice safeguard to stay in the path of  service to others.     Even standard media is starting now to have positive news pages or newsletters and it makes one's heart really sing to see so many unknown people accomplishing so many extraordinary things quietly in their own corner.

     I know that when I first read Ra, I was too pretty astounded at the idea of the risk, thinking, well when I become a higher density one, I think I shall just stay put, lol

    Thanks you aW1  Wink

    Thank you flofrog!

    What you say makes sense on one level, that maybe we incarnate in "groups" and that our loved ones are down here with us. This definitely has a sense of logic to it and intuitively it feels it could be this way. 6D is quite the step up from 3D, so to mention that a 6D entity could plan this alone with there huge amount of wisdom could be the case too.

    There are lots of beautiful things happening, many souls as you say "accomplishing so many extraordinary things quietly in their own corner." I love to see this! Smile

    Lol your last part, exactly, I would be lying if I said that I haven't pondered over this quite a bit. But I feel the goal is to focus on progressing as a 3D mind/body/spirit complex, so apart from my above questions I bring myself back into the now and try to focus on my current experience as a 3D entity for the time being. But the thought is there and I had to ask, 6D must be pretty amazing compared to the crushing vibrations that are down on earth, we (wanderers) must of knew something before coming here to take such a risk I feel. Mainly being that we were sure we could accomplish our soul plan when coming here..

    Thank you for your input!
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      • flofrog
    aWanderer91

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    12-15-2021, 09:03 AM
    (12-15-2021, 01:32 AM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: When I read your post, I picked up on a sense of confusion: why in the world would wanderers risk 4D-6D bliss to come down here in the 3D trenches? I felt similarly when I was taking in the idea of a wanderer. 

    Then I remembered, oh yeah, it's just my 3D brain trying to grasp a 4D-6D choice. And, I simply don't know enough to begin to fathom how all of this works. Our concepts of family and soul mates are probably not the same as their concepts. As members of SMCs, for instance, is there any concept of a distinct individual within the collective any longer? If not, what exactly is a wanderer - a 3D MBS - composed of?

    To consider separating from loved ones for a human lifetime likely causes many of us humans discomfort. Wanderers, on the other hand, likely have a completely different perspective of time and family. They probably see that we are one/infinite being more than I am capable of seeing that. And, I intuitively believe that there is no permanent loss of connection to their loved ones.

    Hi IndigoSalvia,

    This is such a great way to look at it, in terms that our sense of individuality may be lost as we traverse up the densities. And that our concepts, from a 3D perspective, are probably markedly different than that of a 6D entity or entities. This is a great reminder to have. I am aware that my above questions and rambling are from a 3D mind trying to grasp 6D concepts, which is one way to hurt the head I have found lol.

    Thanks for your response! Smile

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