Damnation of the soul within the context of the Law of One

[jafar]

I see the 'functionality' of these absurd conception of "Damnation" as proposed by; among others, Christianity, act as 'catalyst' for entity to start the seeking.
In the same way as any other concept within the 'not' / 'negative' group act as a trigger for anyone being exposed to it to start the seeking.

It is nonsensical! will trigger the question of: "then what is sensical?"

[Patrick]

...It is nonsensical! will trigger the question of: "then what is sensical?"

Yep, at least hopefully it will have that effect. It did for me. But some people seems content to just use this nonsense to judge others with instead.

[jafar]

Yep, at least hopefully it will have that effect. It did for me. But some people seems content to just use this nonsense to judge others with instead.

Every one is on their own path,

Among the 'download' that I got was: I am, once, a catholic nun.
Thus I don't 'judge harshly' those who judge others using this 'damnation nonsense'.
Because I was once did that too.
And I fully understand their perspective, it's among those 'side effect' that you got from 'fear', 'fear of damnation'.
The intention was actually to 'save' others from being 'damned'.

[Patrick]

I was not thinking of those who wish to save people from damnation, I understand that perspective.

I was thinking of those who relish in judging people who step out of the lines drawn by those dogma.

[jafar]

I was thinking of those who relish in judging people who step out of the lines drawn by those dogma.

Sometimes if not most of the times it took 'another lifetime' to be free from a dogma.

But from the psychological aspect we can deduce, when we have fear inside, we will definitely share those 'fear' to our surrounding.
It also cause the the additional (false) comfort of me being 'saved' while others, who 'rejected the savior' are 'un-saved'.

Now when I meet anyone, especially evangelist or christians fundies who tried to 'save' me from 'damnation'.
My reply is: "Don't worry brother (or sister), none of us are being damned, all of us are actually always being blessed".

What I now can't still honestly accept are the "Fraudulent Preachers", spreading fear of 'eternal damnation', squeezing money from their 'sheep' (that's how they call their followers while they think themselves as the shepherd) in order to support their luxurious lifestyle. Although they're among a great example of STS.

[Loki]

Law of One says there is no Damnation and I've felt that all my life. In fact this is why I resonate so much with the Law of One. Religion pushed me to Atheism. Law of One pushed me to spirituality.
How can it be an Almighty Infinite Unique God spending his eternity damning his creation for their ephemeral insignificant mistakes? How could Devil exist when God is Almighty? Law of One solved those religious paradoxes and many others which my intellect could not accept.

[Fuse]

For a long time I have believed that the concept of damnation was one of those parasitic teachings that the Judeo-Christian philosophy acquired over the centuries. But it's a potent thought-form at this point, given all who strongly believe in it. I have no doubt that many people who die on this planet find themselves in a hellish place (of their own making), but are quite, quite surprised when they finally realize that their hell has no gates, and they were always free to walk right out.

I had an interesting experience with a friend of mine from school who became rather violently atheistic and anti-religious over the years. (He taught English in Turkey for a few years, and I think seeing such a dogmatically religious society from within served to harden his views.)

One day, he went off on a very broad-strokes rant on social media about the stupidity of people who believe in anything but atheistic materialism, and so I finally sent him a quiet message explaining how it felt to hear that for people who didn't think like him, and that I was going to leave his friends list so that he could insult people freely without my being forced to think less of him for it. He didn't have much to say about it at the time.

A few years later, I found out indirectly that he had just died, and the way the information was worded made me suspect pretty strongly that he had committed suicide. It's not that I felt guilt, because the things I had said were, thankfully, carefully worded to not be cruel. But I was a bit worried about him, worried about what he might be thinking, that as an atheist, he might be floating terrified in a blank void or something like that. So I reached out to him, to see if I could get through to him.

I think he was expecting me. I immediately got back two very clear words.

"Don't gloat."

I wasn't, of course. I knew that in that moment, he could finally see who I really was, and that like it or not, he would know quite well that I felt nothing for him but love, and relief that he was free and not suffering. He did seem a bit annoyed, which is, I admit, a touch amusing.

But I was fascinated to realize that even as a hardened atheist, he still knew right where he was and what was happening to him.

[flofrog]

I love your story so much Fuse. I can nearly hear him say, ‘don’t gloat’. Lol. Of course he wouldn’t be annoyed, he could see your love then, and now.

[Dtris]

For a long time I have believed that the concept of damnation was one of those parasitic teachings that the Judeo-Christian philosophy acquired over the centuries. But it's a potent thought-form at this point, given all who strongly believe in it. I have no doubt that many people who die on this planet find themselves in a hellish place (of their own making), but are quite, quite surprised when they finally realize that their hell has no gates, and they were always free to walk right out.

I had an interesting experience with a friend of mine from school who became rather violently atheistic and anti-religious over the years. (He taught English in Turkey for a few years, and I think seeing such a dogmatically religious society from within served to harden his views.)

One day, he went off on a very broad-strokes rant on social media about the stupidity of people who believe in anything but atheistic materialism, and so I finally sent him a quiet message explaining how it felt to hear that for people who didn't think like him, and that I was going to leave his friends list so that he could insult people freely without my being forced to think less of him for it. He didn't have much to say about it at the time.

A few years later, I found out indirectly that he had just died, and the way the information was worded made me suspect pretty strongly that he had committed suicide. It's not that I felt guilt, because the things I had said were, thankfully, carefully worded to not be cruel. But I was a bit worried about him, worried about what he might be thinking, that as an atheist, he might be floating terrified in a blank void or something like that. So I reached out to him, to see if I could get through to him.

I think he was expecting me. I immediately got back two very clear words.

"Don't gloat."

I wasn't, of course. I knew that in that moment, he could finally see who I really was, and that like it or not, he would know quite well that I felt nothing for him but love, and relief that he was free and not suffering. He did seem a bit annoyed, which is, I admit, a touch amusing.

But I was fascinated to realize that even as a hardened atheist, he still knew right where he was and what was happening to him.

Interestingly I had a discussion with a friend the other day while walking. Somehow suicide came up and I told him my hypothesis that suicide is more common among atheists/people who do not believe in a creator of some kind. My logic being that without some higher meaning to life, it all eventually seems pointless. For some people, the idea of nothing is comforting.

[jafar]

But I was fascinated to realize that even as a hardened atheist, he still knew right where he was and what was happening to him.

Interestingly I had a discussion with a friend the other day while walking. Somehow suicide came up and I told him my hypothesis that suicide is more common among atheists/people who do not believe in a creator of some kind. My logic being that without some higher meaning to life, it all eventually seems pointless. For some people, the idea of nothing is comforting.

Death is like sleep, sleep is like death, I mean 'physical body death', as there are many layer of bodies / identities there are also many layer of death (or birth).

The rule of the game is the same for everyone regardless how they label themselves.
Because those who created the rule are the same as those who are bound by the rule.
As every-one by itself is also an illusion, as there's actually only one, an infinite one with infinite identities.
That's what the "Law of One" is all about.

On suicide,
Suicide is more common among society where life is hard and meaningless, due to many reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...icide_rate

Suicide is also less common among society when they have a 'belief' that they will be tortured for all eternity (damnation) when they performed a suicide.

Yet within the context of "Law of One", suicide is not viewed as 'bad' thing, suicide is also a choice, similar to "logging out" from a game in the middle of a game or leaving a poker game in the middle of a game. If the player don't want to continue then what's the point of continuing?

Specifically Mr Ra also explain some other options for 'leaving' other than 'violent suicidal act', among those are "Walk In".
Citing an example of what happened to Abraham Lincoln.
http://www.lawofonesociety.com/index.php...am-lincoln

So when one find his/her life is meaningless and not worth continuing (due to any reason), instead of performing self-mutilation to violently end life, broadcast a message "Is there anyone willing to continue as me in this game? I've fed up with this!". Somebody might provide a response and continue as 'you' in the game.