"there is no right or wrong" meaning

[kristina]

Right and wrong are judgments about the degree of appropriateness of an act as defined by the norms and values of the social matrix.  The norms, values, and other defining constructs of that matrix are often arbitrary or derived imperfectly from higher truths and insights. In order to realize these norms and values, moral rules are applied to everyday situations.

These rules can be considered a kind of heuristic that individuals can themselves apply to ascertain relatively consistent outcomes relative to the norms and values across a variety of situations, subjects, and people. This is important because the thoughts, feelings, intent, etc. of individuals are not transparent in third density, so the heuristic stands in for what would otherwise be obvious,  effortless to perceive, and fully contextualized. In lieu of complete data about individuals within the social matrix, concepts of right and wrong allow for a kind of unity deriving from discipline instead of unconditional inclusion and acceptance.

However, the heuristics cannot yield accurate outcomes all the time, because the illusion is much more complex than the way the society within it is framed and understood. Both society and its rules are reductionist simplifications of a far more nuanced metaphysical process. Because we are greater than our third density consciousness, our interests are tied to a project that transcends the limitations of third density. Concepts of right and wrong cannot be rigidly clung to in every situation if we are to participate in our greater spiritual project while in third density.

It might also be contemplated that the limitations of right and wrong also serve a purpose, since they show us when we must rely on a faith-based, non-intellectual intuition or understanding in order to properly serve. Because in order to express ourselves fully we must sometimes act in ways of which society cannot approve, we can learn by being judged right or wrong at times when we might personally feel the opposite is more accurate. This builds our faith and trust in intuition, both faculties required in every constituent of a true social memory complex.

Hope that helps!

I know it sure helped me. I love your final thought. Thanks Jeremy. Really fully of wisdom and hugely insightful.

[David_1]

   I think Ra speaks from their perspective.
   Here, I have the choice and ability to violate someone else’s free will.  Ra would not do that.
   Ra has a lot to say about forgiveness.  Why would forgiveness be important if I never do anything “wrong?”
   Perhaps there is no “wrong” if any action I had was taken out of love for others.

[speedforce131]

some amazing answers in here! I guess my version of it is very simplistic and reduced. Right is right, and for right to be right, one has to know wrong. Wrong will eventually lead to right as wrong gets to know right.

[Minyatur]

   I think Ra speaks from their perspective.
   Here, I have the choice and ability to violate someone else’s free will.  Ra would not do that.
   Ra has a lot to say about forgiveness.  Why would forgiveness be important if I never do anything “wrong?”
   Perhaps there is no “wrong” if any action I had was taken out of love for others.

I kinda see it as wrong means incorrect, or fundamentally flawed. In this sense a wrong cannot be understood nor forgiven.

The opposite is saying that all things are acceptable in their proper place, this means that everything can be understood and that from a place of understanding forgiveness is inherent. The issue with rights and wrongs is that it is a mentallity of overcoming and this is somewhat paradoxical with the dynamics of Creation in relation to the Law of One. Wanting to overcome is to fail to accept an aspect of the Creator and this creates the need for lessons in coming to terms with Oneself in acceptance.

I like this quote on the subject:

18.5 ▶ Questioner: Thank you. I have a question here from Jim that I will read verbatim: “Much of the mystic tradition of seeking on Earth holds that belief that the individual self must be erased or obliterated and the material world ignored for an entity to reach ‘nirvana,’ as it’s called, or enlightenment. What is the proper role of the individual self and its worldly activities in aiding an entity to grow more into the Law of One?”

Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.

The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.

The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.

It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.

The enteriety of the Octave is about the Creator realizing Itself. It has to make peace with everything that It is reflected to be. It is not about making the perfect world, being the best of yourself, really just realizing what you are and reaching acceptance is always what allows to move forward to a new thing. It might help to consider that there really has always just been One being and the dynamics of It. Two is One is a given state with still One in a differing state.