Balance, and the Adept

[Experience You]

OK turtle so this is my perspective:

You can't help but use your will one way or another.

You are creating this reality right now, this you , this life, this planet, your thought forms... everything

The others you share the reality with match your vibration and pattern that is why it is called co creation.

But you are fully responsible for your experience. This is a good thing, it means you can activate different vibrations and different patters of you, your memories, life, the planet and others.

It all fits together.
So you might as well find the balance of your currents beliefs regarding your life and current reality and direct your focus and will toward what feels truly good and positive.

My intentions are these during my everyday life. Yet i am not particularly attached to outcomes.

I am in the now, i am One, i trust that.

My humble advice

(humble as in my perspective in the now, a passing thought)

[Turtle]

OK turtle so this is my perspective:

You can't help but use your will one way or another.

You are creating this reality right now, this you , this life, this planet, your thought forms... everything

The others you share the reality with match your vibration and pattern that is why it is called co creation.

But you are fully responsible for your experience. This is a good thing, it means you can activate different vibrations and different patters of you, your memories, life, the planet and others.

It all fits together.
So you might as well find the balance of your currents beliefs regarding your life and current reality and direct your focus and will toward what feels truly good and positive.

My intentions are these during my everyday life. Yet i am not particularly attached to outcomes.

I am in the now, i am One, i trust that.

My humble advice

(humble as in my perspective in the now, a passing thought)

I agree your perspective, and it is another way to express a lot of what Ra advises to us as humans living life on planet Earth.

[Turtle]

--An update of my self experimentation of inner balancing--

I personally find that the more I am able to center my awareness in the indigo-ray center, with a minimum degree of perceived/felt balance in the other centers, then my daily routine becomes smoother in almost all respects, and the external events that happen to me become much more harmonious. If anything throughout my day seems to upset this equilibrium, I almost immediately focus on my breathing to calm me and re-balance...if an external catalyst of any sort affects me in any great way, I then follow Ra's guidance on using my imagination to "live out" any suppressed desires...I am highly enjoying the use of my imagination to experience any suppressed desires that I have forgotten I have, or that I might pick up throughout the day, so that I do not live them out in the external world. I did not practice this much before, and I highly suggest this.

[AnthroHeart]

A couple of days ago my chakras were all blocked up again for some reason. I've worked with Ra to help me clear and balance them. Just barely touching on indigo ray again. But mostly focused on heart energies, and loving everyone and everything around me.

[Turtle]

It is of course, an ongoing process for us all. I also have found that it is much more practical to focus more on balancing the chakra system as it is, in any given moment, as opposed to trying "open" or "purify" each center...that seems to happen naturally, and when I am ready for it.

[zenmaster]

It is of course, an ongoing process for us all. I also have found that it is much more practical to focus more on balancing the chakra system as it is, in any given moment, as opposed to trying "open" or "purify" each center...that seems to happen naturally, and when I am ready for it.

I would go further and say that it is more practical to work on misunderstood (unbalanced) experience than it is to work on the separate centers themselves, because self (m/b/s) information is available, in totality, to consciousness and will always be drawn to awareness from (at least) honesty of the current 'flow' of, as Ra says, 'intelligent energy' - regardless of resonance to a particular chakra station. To me the chakras are 'secondary' or 'just' indicators of balance, so the 'work' is not so much focusing on the chakras (any more than seeing all catalyst to be of the body), as it is on simply being able to listen to that totality. What comes to the attention first as 'discomfort' is always the appropriate aspect to address, regardless of where it might correspond to an energy center.

[Turtle]

It is of course, an ongoing process for us all. I also have found that it is much more practical to focus more on balancing the chakra system as it is, in any given moment, as opposed to trying "open" or "purify" each center...that seems to happen naturally, and when I am ready for it.

I would go further and say that it is more practical to work on misunderstood (unbalanced) experience than it is to work on the separate centers themselves, because self (m/b/s) information is available, in totality, to consciousness and will always be drawn to awareness from (at least) honesty of the current 'flow' of, as Ra says, 'intelligent energy' - regardless of resonance to a particular chakra station. To me the chakras are 'secondary' or 'just' indicators of balance, so the 'work' is not so much focusing on the chakras (any more than seeing all catalyst to be of the body), as it is on simply being able to listen to that totality. What comes to the attention first as 'discomfort' is always the appropriate aspect to address, regardless of where it might correspond to an energy center.

I agree, and did not mention that I employ that "approach." Focusing on the entire system, my mind, my physical body, as well as the intangible spiritual energies that I can perceive, as a whole. When approached this way, the more immediate distortions of self that are just screaming to be experienced or balanced, come to the surface of one's thoughts. Then, the faculty of imagination is best employed to experience as deeply as is possible...sometimes meditation works well enough, other times I find that having the intention to experience a distortion more deeply through dreamwork is more proper.

This method has become such a fulfilling and enjoyable practice to me.

[zenmaster]

It is of course, an ongoing process for us all. I also have found that it is much more practical to focus more on balancing the chakra system as it is, in any given moment, as opposed to trying "open" or "purify" each center...that seems to happen naturally, and when I am ready for it.

I would go further and say that it is more practical to work on misunderstood (unbalanced) experience than it is to work on the separate centers themselves, because self (m/b/s) information is available, in totality, to consciousness and will always be drawn to awareness from (at least) honesty of the current 'flow' of, as Ra says, 'intelligent energy' - regardless of resonance to a particular chakra station. To me the chakras are 'secondary' or 'just' indicators of balance, so the 'work' is not so much focusing on the chakras (any more than seeing all catalyst to be of the body), as it is on simply being able to listen to that totality. What comes to the attention first as 'discomfort' is always the appropriate aspect to address, regardless of where it might correspond to an energy center.

I agree, and did not mention that I employ that "approach." Focusing on the entire system, my mind, my physical body, as well as the intangible spiritual energies that I can perceive, as a whole. When approached this way, the more immediate distortions of self that are just screaming to be experienced or balanced, come to the surface of one's thoughts. Then, the faculty of imagination is best employed to experience as deeply as is possible...sometimes meditation works well enough, other times I find that having the intention to experience a distortion more deeply through dreamwork is more proper.

This method has become such a fulfilling and enjoyable practice to me.

It's remarkable how easy it can be. The universe is oriented towards cooperation with the will. We all tend to be satiated with the discomfort of unconsciousness however. That is, week tend to seek a level of discomfort we are willing to tolerate, rather than seeking that enjoyable practice.

[3DMonkey]

So, what exactly is an adept, anyhow?

I refer to my first post..

"The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work."

The adept can be loosely defined as one who does less seeking or no seeking, since they are now working with indigo ray more and more consciously...indigo ray being the center of faith. Using their faculty of imagination to do balancing work and magical work (magic = working with the unmanifested self as Ra puts it) as well. This all ties into tapping into intelligent infinity, to then use intelligent energy for the magical workings or to simply rest in the state of unity as we can perceive such state to be since we are still distorted by our physical bodies. I would imagine tapping into intelligent infinity while living in the metaphysical realms would be a much more "infinite" feeling experience.

On the other hand, what could be a better gift to offer back to the Creatrix?

How about anything and everything? There is no right or wrong, and all is unified so of course, all deeds, choices, paths, are equally valid and treasured by the Infinite Creator.

There is no "better" gift.

I'm reading this at your suggestion. Right here, I thought, 'one of the coolest things is how Ra redefined my understanding of what magic is'

[Infinite Unity]

Turtle, I really like the way you integrate these concepts.  The quote which led to your "want to fly" comment make me think of trying to use tweezers while wearing heavy winter mittens.  I don't have anything else to add because I feel you have such a concise explanation here.

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it's OK  for that energy to be the predominant, as long as the tune is clear and harmonious, that is what we are going for.

Just as we wouldn't like a musical instrument with one string ten times louder than all the others.

This quote is implying that the STS adept does not use the green ray.

That's exactly the way I take it.  The STS path is the attempt to maximize spiritual development with the omission of the green way.  This blocks the development of what would we call conscience.  It also opens the door to what conscience blocks most people from doing: the utmost of power consolidation to a single manipulative will.  I think Ra is pretty outspoken about both the potential and drawbacks of that path.  Ra's also clear as well about the ultimate need to abandon it for any further growth.  It makes more sense to me to choose a path that will not have to be abandoned, and that doesn't inherently fall apart even before that point.

I think your on to something here, and personally believe the sts development to center around the mental complex. Within entities singular evolution, and there/ it's role (sts path), in the grander view. Or what we think of as the universe.

However I will say that many abilities the sts acquire, they attribute to the mental complex, when in fact it is the spiritual complex.

[xise]

The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work

What do you think?

It quite clearly seems to me that the STS path does not use the green ray at all, at least for the more advanced adepts. I can imagine someone that is new to the STS path still having compassion for a couple of loved ones, but then blocking out any compassion for the rest of the world.

STS does not use green or blue.

[anagogy]

STS does not use green or blue.

I could be wrong, but in my opinion STS do use blue to some extent. Like all of their energies, however, it is precisely controlled. If you were looking at the aura of a particularly negatively polarized individual, however, you would not see a very lit up green or blue center (this is why Ra said it is missing from their vibratory schedules). Maybe just a very dim point at those centers, if anything at all. They just don't have blue ray *ON* all the time. Only when clear and honest communication is required. But blue ray is also discernment, which they do definitely use.

[Turtle]

STS does not use green or blue.

I could be wrong, but in my opinion STS do use blue to some extent. Like all of their energies, however, it is precisely controlled. If you were looking at the aura of a particularly negatively polarized individual, however, you would not see a very lit up green or blue center (this is why Ra said it is missing from their vibratory schedules). Maybe just a very dim point at those centers, if anything at all. They just don't have blue ray *ON* all the time. Only when clear and honest communication is required. But blue ray is also discernment, which they do definitely use.

Keep blue ray on all the god damn time.

[Infinite Unity]

What a lot of adept hopefuls miss a lot of times, Is that who you are: personality,attitude, dieatary and etc. All culminate in the alchemical reaction that is; you. All these things are linked to the energy centers, and are actually direct expression of that energy. As all things seen are symbolic reference or representation/expression of the unseen. The energy centers in each being is the link and athanor by which the unseen expresses. The spirit the shuttle or channel by which all expression is received.

A change in an energy center, will result in a change within expression: who you are.

[Infinite Unity]

On the other hand, what could be a better gift to offer back to the Creatrix?

How about anything and everything? There is no right or wrong, and all is unified so of course, all deeds, choices, paths, are equally valid and treasured by the Infinite Creator. There is no "better" gift.

A very thought provoking thread Turtle. Well done. On reading not only the quotes you offer, but others surrounding it as well as regards the previous thread on 'Power Days' which contains the same quote as regards the 18 day cycle of zeniths and nadirs, your last sentence gave me pause. Indeed, if "Anything and Everything" is a gift to the creator, then there is no wrong way, failure, need to judge oneself much less anyone or anything else, given that Every single "perceived" imperfection, shortcoming, less than-ness, blemish, horrible experience, failed relationship, disability, ailment, death of  loved one, tragedy, planet blowing up, and even murdering despot massacring millions, is already in the stated state of bliss and perfection. As hard of a pill to swallow as it is, it may be so. All is in fact already in the state of perfection given it proceeded from the previous state of perfection. It only seems less than perfect while in it.

Much like a Buddhist or mystic Christian philosophy, we already of course know this on so many levels, but seemingly only intellectually so. But stopping and taking true pause to actually deeply reconsider it within one single moment of the day causes it to resonate with another feeling all over again. It is another matter altogether to do this than is merely allowing the  profundity of it to merely trickle off of our tongues when parroting such considerations. It is fascinating.

Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? As a Creator, might there not at least have been an "as efficient of a path" to offer ITself, if not a better one, other than torturing us as ITself through ITself?

Let us not derail your provoking thread by offering opinion here to my above question of suffering. I will pose this as a question as a separate thread towards the effort of not diluting yours. Let us continue deeper with your wonderful point and thread.

~ Q ~

The creation doesn't move, portions move into each other. Here we call it chemical reactions. The entire spectrum is thus built. The higher you go the closer you get to the source, or from which all flows. Movement finds its origin in learning/growth, one end knowing/understanding the other unknowing/un-understanding. Movement is created by the two, unknowing "moving"/learning into knowing. Within the potential for learning/growth lay the exact equal amount of movement potentially available. Now look at Earth.

[Highrculling]

Nice necro play, wouldn't have noticed this otherwise. Great thread, found much that conforms to my own inner process.

I see the Adept as (in addition to what has been posted) someone who operates beyond the "visible", concerning itself with things beyond proof, like a blind man doing a surgeon's work, yet somehow still manages to hit the mark. The fruit of the work is beyond what is normally required/expected of 3rd D experience. Like the saying "It's hubris only if I fail", if the Adept succeeds, the world becomes a better place and it gets a cherry on top of the pie; if the Adept fails, it will look funny; if the "Adept" enjoyed itself/invested into this area too much to have neglected the basic homework, which is opening the heart, things get toxic. The Adept's work, the risk, the fruit being a plus to what is appropriate work in a typical 3rd D setting, and are for experienced players only. Still, some people just can't stay away from it.

[unity100]

STS does not use green or blue.

I could be wrong, but in my opinion STS do use blue to some extent.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=47#3

47.3 Questioner: We chose the values of— or you were given the values of better than 50% service to others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service to self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.

The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.

The positive, upon the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true-color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.

Its openly stated that those are missing from their spectrum.

Naturally so, since negative format is a format that polarizes using orange and yellow.

[Stranger]

--An update of my self experimentation of inner balancing--

if an external catalyst of any sort affects me in any great way, I then follow Ra's guidance on using my imagination to "live out" any suppressed desires...I am highly enjoying the use of my imagination to experience any suppressed desires that I have forgotten I have, or that I might pick up throughout the day, so that I do not live them out in the external world. I did not practice this much before, and I highly suggest this.

I am quite concerned about this practice (not for you, obviously - do what works for you) - but in general.  I'm not sure there is a huge difference between living something out in the imagination or in real life, in terms of how it affects us (as opposed to the other person - clearly, in imagination there's no other person to harm).

However, we are still focusing our attention, and what we focus our attention on, grows.

Looking at porn, for instance, and living out fantasies in one's mind can't help but reinforce those pathways in the brain/mind, making associated thoughts, desires and ideas more likely to keep popping up and expand.  Thus strengthened, the desires will produce a growing discrepancy between desire and reality, increasing pressure to pursue whatever it is one's desiring, and therefore also increasing discontent.  I also see the possibility that within oneself, acting out on STS desires in imagination produces STS inner states - real, not imaginary - again, strengthening these tendencies.  

Our consciousness is surrounded by both external sensations and our internal environment.  Here's a metaphor: at all times, you're in a room made entirely of glass.  That is your inner world of thoughts, emotions, desires, etc.  The external world can only come to you after passing through the contents of that glass room.  

What effect will it have on you if you wallpaper the room with porn?

I agree with Ra that suppressing desires is unhelpful (though better than acting them out).  One alternative approach is to simply witness them arising - recognizing that they're coming from a distorted-away-from-Love part of oneself and have nothing to do with the core You, the ever-loving, balanced Consciousness.   They are then free to come and go as they please.

Just my two cents!

[GentleWanderer]

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[loostudent]

I'm not sure there is a huge difference between living something out in the imagination or in real life, in terms of how it affects us (as opposed to the other person - clearly, in imagination there's no other person to harm).

However, we are still focusing our attention, and what we focus our attention on, grows.

Looking at porn, for instance ...

I strongly agree. IMO its better to guard the heart than indulge in lust for example. Indulging only strengthens this distortion and creates a bond. Better balance it with antithesis - for example focus on thoughts, pictures, music and texts filled with love and light. Only if the thought nevertheless enters the heart, then the least to do is to prevent any possible harmful action (manifestation).

[Stranger]

--An update of my self experimentation of inner balancing--

I personally find that the more I am able to center my awareness in the indigo-ray center, with a minimum degree of perceived/felt balance in the other centers, then my daily routine becomes smoother in almost all respects, and the external events that happen to me become much more harmonious. If anything throughout my day seems to upset this equilibrium, I almost immediately focus on my breathing to calm me and re-balance..

I really agree with this part!  I've been doing this without realizing it by shifting into being "the observer" - backing away from whatever thought or experience arises into the Eye of Consciousness itself that's observing the thought or experience.  Couldn't understand why I was suddenly getting such clear guidance when I did this - turns out, "the observer" is the metaphysical aspect of the pineal gland, the seat of consciousness, also known as the indigo ray center!  

This is a really powerful practice. My entire energy state has transformed by keeping up with it throughout the day.  Thanks for sharing, Turtle.

[Turtle]

--An update of my self experimentation of inner balancing--

I personally find that the more I am able to center my awareness in the indigo-ray center, with a minimum degree of perceived/felt balance in the other centers, then my daily routine becomes smoother in almost all respects, and the external events that happen to me become much more harmonious. If anything throughout my day seems to upset this equilibrium, I almost immediately focus on my breathing to calm me and re-balance..

I really agree with this part!  I've been doing this without realizing it by shifting into being "the observer" - backing away from whatever thought or experience arises into the Eye of Consciousness itself that's observing the thought or experience.  Couldn't understand why I was suddenly getting such clear guidance when I did this - turns out, "the observer" is the metaphysical aspect of the pineal gland, the seat of consciousness, also known as the indigo ray center!  

This is a really powerful practice. My entire energy state has transformed by keeping up with it throughout the day.  Thanks for sharing, Turtle.

No problem

[FractalWanderer]

--An update of my self experimentation of inner balancing--

if an external catalyst of any sort affects me in any great way, I then follow Ra's guidance on using my imagination to "live out" any suppressed desires...I am highly enjoying the use of my imagination to experience any suppressed desires that I have forgotten I have, or that I might pick up throughout the day, so that I do not live them out in the external world. I did not practice this much before, and I highly suggest this.

I am quite concerned about this practice (not for you, obviously - do what works for you) - but in general.  I'm not sure there is a huge difference between living something out in the imagination or in real life, in terms of how it affects us (as opposed to the other person - clearly, in imagination there's no other person to harm).

However, we are still focusing our attention, and what we focus our attention on, grows.

Looking at porn, for instance, and living out fantasies in one's mind can't help but reinforce those pathways in the brain/mind, making associated thoughts, desires and ideas more likely to keep popping up and expand.  Thus strengthened, the desires will produce a growing discrepancy between desire and reality, increasing pressure to pursue whatever it is one's desiring, and therefore also increasing discontent.  I also see the possibility that within oneself, acting out on STS desires in imagination produces STS inner states - real, not imaginary - again, strengthening these tendencies.  

Our consciousness is surrounded by both external sensations and our internal environment.  Here's a metaphor: at all times, you're in a room made entirely of glass.  That is your inner world of thoughts, emotions, desires, etc.  The external world can only come to you after passing through the contents of that glass room.  

What effect will it have on you if you wallpaper the room with porn?

I agree with Ra that suppressing desires is unhelpful (though better than acting them out).  One alternative approach is to simply witness them arising - recognizing that they're coming from a distorted-away-from-Love part of oneself and have nothing to do with the core You, the ever-loving, balanced Consciousness.   They are then free to come and go as they please.

Just my two cents!

Over my life I have experienced extreemely vivid "dreams" that I recognise as often arising from my desires and emotions. The method I have eventually come to for dealing with these is to finish them in as many different ways as I can imagine the situation going, in effort to find the best possible outcome for all living beings involved in it. This has helped me gain a greater awareness of what I really desire, and also a uniquely sharp awareness of how I act on my desires affects other beings.