07-17-2015, 12:55 PM
(07-16-2015, 01:46 PM)Farseer Wrote:(07-16-2015, 01:44 PM)Diana Wrote:(07-16-2015, 01:19 PM)Farseer Wrote: Yes, a chicken eating eggs is cannibalism... is that more natural than the predator-prey relationship that occurs when another creatures eats the eggs?
It's not natural. But it's also not natural to keep animals for a food source where the animals don't lead natural lives in the wild (which created the problem in the first place). There really isn't much about humans that is natural within the context of ecosystems and the planet.
Predator-prey is natural for animals. Humans are still animals in the greater part of their brains. So the question would be, does a particular individual want to continue acting like an animal or evolve to something more in line with compassion for all things.
So what separates humans from nature? Why do our actions 'not count' as part of nature?
I feel we are getting semantic here with the word, "natural." I think "natural" evolves as all things do.
I can see how the debate over what is natural could go round and round to no end. So I will say that animals kept for a food source are deprived of the full experience of living possible for their lives, just as a person in a prison is. The person in the prison may have used free will to end up imprisoned, and it may be chosen as a path to evolve for whatever reason. But if 2nd density creatures are not using free will according to Ra, and are learning to individuate, then how are they choosing the experience to suffer or just be limited by humans? This is not a rhetorical question.
Humans have definitely separated themselves from nature. Though what is natural may evolve, humans have built structures and walls to separate themselves from the natural world. They have developed land and clear cut forests with no regard for any other life. Of course everyone knows this and more of what humanity has done to this planet with the attitude that humans are all that matters and everything is here for our use, even to humanity's own detriment. These actions and attitudes may be part of a natural process of evolution of things, yet it is not being a "part of nature," unless you think being a part includes destroying it. ...Which, if we are enmiring ourselves in semantics, I suppose it could be argued so. But being a part of is not the same as being separate from which is essentially what humanity (I speak in general terms of the whole as some individuals have not done this) has done—separated from nature.