Maybe unimportant. Has Don ever asked a question like that? I know, Ra don't like to answer unimportant questions.
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01-17-2015, 12:20 AM
hi darklight,
the closest thing I can remember is that Ra did say that 5d entities are very fair to look at (I think they were talking about neggies as well?). Regards 4d entities, they do represent a physically evolved version 3d entities. I guess the issue is how you perceive what is beautiful and sexy. I am sure there is still a variety of physical appearances; and that illness and disease is still present as some form of catalytic feedback. But the presence of a group society would also mean that things would not be left untreated, and that much healing (mental and physical) would be available so that things wouldn't get out of hand such as lifelong alcholism etc. hasn't the book 2150AD been referenced as the best depiction of a 4d positive society? What do they say in that regards physical appearance and physical catalyst?
Plenum,
If we look at 2th density animals, there is not much variety in appearance (all male lions are hairy and dangerous for example ) . The only difference is the size (mostly) between males and females. But when it comes to our 3th density vehicles, there is so much variety. We have short people, tall people, overweight people, skinny people, bald people (androgenetic alopecia, especially men), different races etc. Why so many differences? Ra said that 3th density is the most difficult density, perhaps this is why there is so much variety because it raise the catalyst. If I remember correctly, a 4th density body is physical light and a 5th density body is pure light. I hope the 4th density is nice in appearance. I don't want to incarnate in a cybernetic Borg vehicle. I haven't read that book yet. ill make some time to read it.
01-17-2015, 10:12 AM
Aren't we all sexy at the moment. I guess that makes us 4th density already or at least gives us a head start
01-17-2015, 12:28 PM
I think sexual energy transfers are basically a free-for-all in 4D(+), so my guess is there are plenty of sexy beings, and you get to do them all, because if you find them sexy, it's most often reciprocated.
01-17-2015, 12:37 PM
Lol Jade.
I don't know if it's just maturity where I see beauty in many, but younger women these days do not look like they did when I was growing up! Then again where I live has a bit of a hillbilly population. But I would say beauty is becoming more prominent.
01-17-2015, 02:35 PM
(01-17-2015, 12:20 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: hi darklight, The book 2150AD describes evolved humans as very beautiful (and sexy if one is looking for that aspect, but in that book no one cares about that—they don't focus on sexiness but have very healthy attitudes about sex). Also very tall and robust, as disease and proper nutrition, and addictions are no longer issues (smoking mothers produce smaller babies, for instance). They have also, according to the story, developed telekinesis which they can use to repair their bodies and manipulate glandular systems and the like to optimize health. They have also freed themselves from having to work, so they spend their time in spiritual learning and pursuits, and joyful things such as swimming and playing at sports, having older brother/sister relationships with the younger ones. It sounds very idyllic.
01-17-2015, 03:20 PM
Yes they are haven't you heard of George Adamski contacts ?
I wonder if that natural pull towards physically attractive people will still exist. It saddens me that some people because of their appearance aren't given attention or desired. I hope everyone will be considered beautiful regardless of what they look like. Is it important to be beautiful physically?
01-18-2015, 11:15 AM
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"Sexy" is a subjective perception. What I find sexy might be ugly to you. I find no sexual interest in any of the movie stars plastered across the front of magazines, for example, even though they are supposed to set the standard for physical beauty.
I've often found that if you come to love someone greatly, their appearance begins to be desirable no matter how you saw them originally, because their inner being begins to be reflected in the physical. This is why an eighty-year-old couple can still find each other sexy even though their bodies are withered with age. In the fourth dimension there is supposed to be no barrier between self and self. We'll all be wearing our insides on the outside, able to see each other's true natures instead of hiding behind the mask of makeup and hair products society says makes us socially acceptable. I think this would contribute to there being an awful lot of beautiful people around. I can't imagine a higher dimensional concept of beauty being anywhere near as shallow as it is here.
01-18-2015, 12:14 PM
Movie star photos plastered on magazines are heavily photoshopped.
01-18-2015, 01:45 PM
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01-18-2015, 06:27 PM
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In the higher dimensions, higher levels of perception become available. To be able to experience a person vibrationally dwarfs the physical comparisons we rely on now. Self-expression is, in fact, enhanced to the point that the body becomes something of an afterthought. To experience someone's essence is to have a thousand subtle nuances conveyed in an instant. To see another individual with your third eye open is anything but boring. Each person is an ever-changing crystalline structure of evolving, infinite beauty. It's quite awe-inspiring.
Of course, at a higher level of spiritual awareness I don't doubt that there will be a great increase in the health and vitality of the population as a whole. There should be little need for the physical blemishes we use as learning tools now, so in general I can't see where physical ugliness would have a part in the experience. However, I also feel that there will be much less reason to put so much focus on the physical body with the spiritual becoming ever-more available. Ra said that in the fourth dimension even the preparation of food to fuel the body is seen as a distraction from service, thus teaching patience, and I imagine personal grooming would follow those same lines. Higher dimensions are not just a more pleasant version of human experience, they are a shift in experience, in being and in focus. I can only imagine the experience of attraction following that shift as much as any other.
01-18-2015, 07:14 PM
You probably fall in love more with them on the inside than what's outside/appearance.
You love their mind and heart.
01-18-2015, 08:12 PM
Isn't there some objectivity to beauty though? Or do you think it's mostly social conditioning? I watched the movie Amelie last night and I couldn't help but feel that the story wouldn't have been as powerful if the lead actress wasn't so beautiful.
01-18-2015, 08:33 PM
(01-18-2015, 08:12 PM)Folk-love Wrote: Isn't there some objectivity to beauty though? Or do you think it's mostly social conditioning? I watched the movie Amelie last night and I couldn't help but feel that the story wouldn't have been as powerful if the lead actress wasn't so beautiful. Mathieu Kassovitz was gorgeous in that movie
01-19-2015, 02:01 AM
Beauty is very powerful, but is it just because we've all been conditioned to feel so ugly? (photoshopped ads, make-up, plastic surgery, et al) I mean I know we've always put physical attractiveness upon a pedestal as a species with our art, we've definitely taken it to an extreme expression. Hair in only the right places. Neat and tidy clothing. Tall and slim. Flawless complexion. Humans are a strange and varied looking species. We are all unique and choose our looks very specifically for our life lessons. A big and recurring one is to find beauty in ourselves when no one else says otherwise.
For what it's worth, when I first met and got together with my husband, I was hardly attracted to him physically at all. It was weird and difficult at times. Eventually he softened into something much more beautiful, which was just part of the process, I guess. For what it's worth, I've really been a serial monogamist since puberty basically, having been in 7 serious relationships, most where I would say I was "in love". I was only physically attracted to maybe 2 of them, tops. Three now if you count my beautiful, radiant husband.
01-19-2015, 08:44 AM
You kinda see it in the ufo field as well, what with the Nordic pleiadians and all.
01-19-2015, 06:35 PM
Indeed, sexy is in the eye of the beholder. "I'm too sexy for my hat - what do you think about that?"
01-28-2015, 01:29 AM
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That depends upon the life form in question. We don't know what Ra would physically look like were the social memory complex decide to physically incarnate (correct me if I'm wrong). There is little reason to assume that they were hominoid for instance. On Venus they could have been quadpedal swamp things that lacked physical eyes and arms, but with a great desire to spread the compassion of the One to their fellow beings and their alien neighbors through the green ray. Obviously what is sexy to a quadpedal swamp thing is different from what we consider sexy, and this is only 3D we're talking about where the unenlightened are driven by their physical impulses coded into their genetics, being yellow ray vehicles. Each species has their own code of genetics, which tells them who would be a better mate, and this code is subjective in itself depending upon the environment of the lifeform, its physical needs and other factors.
In 4D where the major lesson revolves around love, sexy takes a different perspective within which lay a myriad of other perspectives similar to the concept of subdensities within a density. Sexy would no longer be just a question of who's reproductive junk is attracted to who's. It goes beyond the mere physical level. I would imagine absolute trust with a track record of unbroken devotion to be a very sexy trait, but that's just another perspective.
01-28-2015, 09:25 AM
It is worth noting that on higher vibratory densities the idea of 'thought creating form' is much more pronounced. While the same is true in 3D there is no clear link (atleast the illusion of such) between your thought and the resultant form, however on higher densities this is increasingly so (E.g. Astral). In other words, it is not so much the idea of 4D entities being beautiful so much as it being a natural by-product of the formmaker having much control to fashion the vehicle/instrument as seen fit. Of course, on these levels there is the idea of a cleaner diet, higher activation of DNA, non-damaged energetic body templates, less random mutation and so forth, which results in a more efficient organism, but this is a non-issue in comparison.
Also, note that the wide variance on Earth is not really common among other spheres. Consider correlating sources which state the various 'root' races and their differences stemmed from genetic engineering by a number of E.T. groups early on, so it's only natural that we have the variety that we do now. Anyway, as others have said. Physical beauty is subjective and is arbitrary, though studies suggest the mass consensus leans towards symmetry as being the common thread. In any case, it is a non issue to worry about the outer form, which is transient, yet perfect as it is (this is what you chose 'prior' to incarnation). It is who you are underneath that matters, rather than be dictated by the idea of flesh and bones, which is only a perspective when operating in a limited spectrum of physical sense. |
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