Gravity Propulsion

[ascension scout]

Being more conceptually-minded than technically minded.....maybe you folks could help me hash out a way to use gravity as propulsion for space craft or any craft, really. I have always just known that is how it is done. I came to me when I learned about how bumble bees don't have sufficient surface area on their wings to fly according to physics. They vibrate as to create 0-point gravity, giving them the ability to hover. It seems like once you attained 0-point gravity it would be a simple step to vibrate to -1 point gravity and blast off as it were. It would be a great breakthrough and we wouldn't have to rape our planet for fossil fuels. Has anyone has every studied the work of Ralph Ring? I think he had it figured out. Anyhoo, I would be so very pleased to hear your thoughts and ideas on this subject!

[1109]

Perhaps we should first figure out what exactly gravity is, then we'll see what needs to be done to cancel gravity and produce gravitational propulsion, if possible. I believe that the reason why gravity is so strange is because it's a time/space phenomenon. I'm going to read Dewey Larson's work, maybe things will become clearer then.

[Matt1]

I would check out Torsion physics and as 1109 aid Dewey Larson's work on time/space or 3 dimensional time.

[Parsons]

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4788

[ascension scout]

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=4788

Thanks for the link to the discussion. It has been a while since I went on a Project Camelot binge. Going off topic here, but can we discuss with the upmost respect why Kerry rubs us so wrongly? My husband and I also are very irritated by her. Why do you suppose this is? It seems like there is a lesson therein.

[Parsons]

She seems like she is cavalier about the person she is interviewing and her general professionalism. I understand that she likely considers herself an 'underground' interviewer, but her demeanor and frequent background interruptions take away focus from the interviewee. I'm not asking her to dress up like a reporter on the evening news or something, but it would be nice if she at least eliminated distracting background noises (ie, a large dog loudly lapping up water from a dog bowl) and didn't rudely interrupt the interviewee so frequently.

BTW, there are much more professional and clear interviews of MT Keshe available on youtube than the initial Camelot one I posted.

[Plenum]

Going off topic here, but can we discuss with the upmost respect why Kerry rubs us so wrongly? My husband and I also are very irritated by her. Why do you suppose this is? It seems like there is a lesson therein.

she definitely seems very 'enthusiastic'

[Dekalb_Blues]

Anyhoo, I would be so very pleased to hear your thoughts and ideas on this subject!

We'll just see about that! Some passing almost random offerings, as I cruise by, bipedally biopropelled:

Bystander at Kitty Hawk to Orville and Wilbur Wright, circa 1903:
"Aw, it's all the bunk, you guys-- she'll never git off th' ground!"
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/orville/

General context of perhaps unsuspected difficulties in cultural diffusion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNco1gqaSDw

Why re-invent the wheel?
http://www.ufohowto.com/index2.htm

The technological road less-travelled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7ZTwqC8ZI

More seriously, you might find this of interest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggsuHRnyn0Q (start at 5:28, say)
Howard Menger was a very upstanding and wide-awake gent, who was of the same generation as Ralph Ring, and interested in very similar realities. He lived in my neck of the woods, and is still known and respected by the older ones in the area.

Incidentally, you might enjoy this on general principles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0DT40csVo

Remember, when you get aloft, the aviator's first rule: Blue Side Up. Cheers!

[severus_]

Being more conceptually-minded than technically minded.....maybe you folks could help me hash out a way to use gravity as propulsion for space craft or any craft, really. I have always just known that is how it is done. I came to me when I learned about how bumble bees don't have sufficient surface area on their wings to fly according to physics. They vibrate as to create 0-point gravity, giving them the ability to hover. It seems like once you attained 0-point gravity it would be a simple step to vibrate to -1 point gravity and blast off as it were. It would be a great breakthrough and we wouldn't have to rape our planet for fossil fuels. Has anyone has every studied the work of Ralph Ring? I think he had it figured out. Anyhoo, I would be so very pleased to hear your thoughts and ideas on this subject!

Hello
That bit of info about the bees piqued my interest so I decided to look it up. Apparently bees don't break laws of physics to fly, they just do it a different way. They create vacuum above their wings through a back and forth motion that, when maintained, creates lift. http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/...f-physics/

As far as future propulsion goes, you're definitely on the right track(advanced beings use sun/gravity powered propulsion systems and some have time warp capability). The question is, how far in the future would this be possible? An interesting read is the Billy Meier material about his first hand experience in gravity propelled craft. http://meiersaken.info/Spacecrafts.html

The pleidian peoples are eons(if not millions of years) more advanced technologically than we are. I don't see gravity drives anytime in our near or distant future unless we were taught the technology by benevolent 4D entities, which won't happen until our peoples are responsible enough to handle it. We've had the science to tap free energy for a long time now, since tesla, but of course the STS systems of this planet have their own reasons why we shouldn't use it. Tesla's inventions had the capability to energize our developing 4D transition. STS tried their best to slow down the transition but here it is. I expect in the not so distant future that advanced energy tech will become more available, although it will be slow in coming. Hell, Coral Castle in Florida was built by 4D techniques and that's been around for almost a hundred years yet still little knowledge of it exists.

Another question along these lines: how could the world make the transition to 4D tech more smoothly and quickly? Without violating STO polarity, of course. Unless you're pure STS, in that case your perspective and thoughts would be very interesting.

[Dekalb_Blues]

....[M]aybe you folks could help me hash out a way to use gravity as propulsion for space craft or any craft, really. I have always just known that is how it is done. I came to me when I learned about how bumble bees don't have sufficient surface area on their wings to fly according to physics. They vibrate as to create 0-point gravity, giving them the ability to hover. It seems like once you attained 0-point gravity it would be a simple step to vibrate to -1 point gravity and blast off as it were.

In this connection, do you know of the late Russian entomologist Viktor Grebennikov's interesting work regarding extraordinary insect flight phenomena? Interesting even though weirdly obscured-- as if its promulgation were bound by a Law-of-Confusion/Gödelian limit protecting against undue disturbance of the consensus-reality's (rather plodding) extant scientific paradigm. That, of course, if he was legit, as they say, and not merely self-deluding (albeit in his evident sort of delightfully playfully imaginative way, along the lines of Dr. John Lilly).

See, e.g., http://www.keelynet.com/greb/greb.htm
https://keychests.com/chest.php?ck=edkduch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Grebennikov

Lagniappe:
http://liliendahl.files.wordpress.com/20...he-bee.jpg
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bumblebees.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfv42lm7hQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwrHwgkqQrk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlrsqGal64w

Cheers.