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Gary: Thank you, so much, Carla.
We shall move on to our first question...
It comes from isis via Bring4th. isis asks, "All is one, in potential? Or all is one - period. Or both? Or what?"
Carla: The answer is both, I think. All is one - period...that's in 6th density. We are still in potentiation in 3rd density being able to see it all as one. We are sitting here and making the choice - this is the density of choice. We still have to go through the density of love, and the density of light, before we hit 6th density - the density of unity. So, all is one in 6th density...all is one, in potential, in 3rd density...and all is one as we are able to see it...absolutely. Everybody else, have at it.
Unknown: (laughter)
Austin: Right, it's basically both but, especially here in 3rd density, we have to realize that it is mostly in potential. We can probably reach a state in meditation, or random moments, where the unity of the entire universe is revealed to us as an absolute truth, just through experience, but for almost everybody in our waking state throughout the day it's not something that is apparent and it's not obvious and as we go through our lives and do our work the idea of potential, I think, is really important. There's a couple of Ra quotes that I think were relevant to this in that it highlights the idea of potential and the role of potential in our lives and Don is basically asking about the definition of intelligent infinity and in the first quote Ra says, "There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy. The nature of this work is dependent upon the particular distortion of free will which in turn is the nature of a particular intelligent energy of kinetic focus of the potential of unity or that which is all." And so we are basically here, in 3rd density, to do work to get back to where 'all is one' is not just a potential...and to realize or do that, to get back to the creator, I think it's important for us to realize the difference between the potential and the kinetic as we're going through the kinetic and the complete unity all is one is the potential but we have to do the work to get there. (pause) Sorry, there was another Ra quote that might confuse things a little bit...
Carla: (laughs) I thought that was excellent, by the way.
Austin: Thank you...It's in the same session - just a couple questions later. They're trying to explain the same topic and at first it sounds a little bit contradictory but Ra goes on to explain. Ra says, "There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential *in relation* to intelligent energy. In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided, one use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other terms in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by focuses of energy, we call intelligent energy." So I think, in a lot of words, Ra is basically saying both; all is one in potential...and all is one - period.
Carla: Mhm.
Jim: It kind of leads to a paradox which might be a good thing. Ra said that paradox is one of the signs of being on the spiritual path. Before there was a creation, the only type of service possible: STS...and if you consider that each of us is learning something that helps the creator to know itself then the basic way the creator learns itself is through STS. However, in a manifested state - the positive polarity - the STO polarity, seems to be the one that produces the most knowledge of the creator and the STOs value; it's the path that which is, as Ra said, but for the negative path, the STS - the path that which is not, seems to separate by beholding that position...and that concept in the mind seems to separate us but when seen from the point-of-view of the creator STS is the way to learn.
Carla: Right, right...I think the way that the path of that which is not manages to separate out love is they just skip the green ray chakra. They skip over the heart and they go from the...I have trouble counting the rays - is it the 3rd ray? They skip from the 3rd ray, yellow ray, to - you know, that's (Jim: To the blue) that's relationships - straight to the blue...right to the intellect and so for a STS entity it's all in the head. It can never be in the heart because there is no heart except as a reality. I skipped the one that pumps and beats, you know, in the flesh. There's no heart. That's all considered, by the path that which is not, a false thing - an illusion that just spoils people, and brings them down, and limits them...and to them the path of that which is not is the path that is free. Well in the intellect, I suppose, it feels freer than the heart because the heart does offer limitations. The heart offers the limitation of 'I want to serve, I want to love' and so they have to look at everybody as somebody to serve, somebody as a soul, and the path of that which is not looks at other people as can be used or those which are thought.
Gary: Jim, did you have anything more to add?
Jim: Well, that paradox to me just gives me the comfort of knowing that all is well. So whatever happens in the manifested world, with the negative over positive and the positive struggling against the negative forces, that it's all teaching the creator and it's the creator learning about itself in the smaller version of ourselves as mind/body/spirit complexes and in the larger version of the wholeness of the creator who made all things. So...all is well, whatever it looks like.
Carla: And you're saying that, basically, if it's all of STS to the creator then it would necessarily be all of STS to it's created parts?
Jim: Right.
Carla: There's the paradox.
Jim: Yeah.
Gary: You guys are blowing my mind. It's interesting that all three of you addressed basically 'what is paradox' because that's the direction my own response is going to move into and apologies in advance because I didn't get sleep last night - so I had caffeine this morning... (Carla: Hahaha, you're flyin'.) Ooh yeah...since the meditation retreat I've only had it twice, & this being the second time, and I really should stay away from it - so I'm going to try to counter my intensity of energy and bring myself back down. So...This particular topic is my favorite, you could say. It's at the center of my own path and I think it's the central mystical question at the heart of the Law of One as well - that primal paradox between the many and one or separation and unity et cetera. So I have a lot to say about it and I would like to start my own response by focusing on the the twin categories of thought between What Is and What Is Not. Ra begins the contact with L/L group in question number 7 of session 1...they say, "In truth, there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You ARE every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You ARE unity. You ARE infinity. You ARE love/light, light/love. You ARE. This is the Law of One."
So we begin with the category of What Is. What is...is unity. What is...is infinity. What is...is oneness. Not what will eventually be, or what will potentially be, because "eventually" implies time...but rather what is eternally - right now. So no matter how real the separation seems, no matter what entity you are, no matter the density, or the location, or the particular layer of the dream, no matter even what octave you're experiencing, it is always infinity - it is always one - period; there is no other way. Not only is IT always infinity but YOU ARE, always, infinity. This, to me, is what the Law of One is ultimately all about...who and what you are.
Now, to the other category of What Is Not. According to my understanding, things are not in actuality separate; things are not, ultimately, finite; there is not, in reality, manyness - it only appears that way...It only seems that way. This is why the word 'illusion' is applied and alternately this is why the word 'distortion' is applied. So how does Ra address what is not? Firstly, recall the quote that I just read from Ra. Ra makes their first mention of what is not when they say "In truth, there is NO right or wrong. There is NO polarity" and then in session 4, question 20, Ra goes on to say, "Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is NO disharmony, NO imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect."
So we have pretty clear statements about "what is" and "what is not" but this is where it gets problematic, for the 3rd density seeker, because these two statements, of two categories - identifying what is and what it not - seem to represent two completely contradictory truths. They represent an absolute paradox to our mental comprehension and, as I understand these things, this paradox will not be resolved in our minds. Infinity transcends any possible category of thought that we can create. We can think as clearly and "accurately" as words and concepts will allow but it is only through going beyond identification with thought-forms, through the discipline of meditation, that the paradox is...understood...if I can use that word? It's only in the - (Carla: Grokked. The word is...) - grokked haha, way better word, thank you - it's only in the silence and the stillness of the present moment where exists an awareness - an awareness which simultaneously sees and embraces the paradox that you could describe thusly:
A.) No matter surface appearances, all things are infinite and one - right here and right now. This is it. You are looking at infinity. You are infinity...Not some other place, not some other time, not when you finish 8th density, but right now...This is infinity - you're experiencing it. and B.) There yet seems to be separation and manyness and distortion and imperfection...et cetera. There seems to be a future in which you will eventually become infinite. So these two seemingly opposite points of view are expressed when Ra says, in session 55 question 1, "The seeker seeks the One. The One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self" - And here's the key phrase - "aware, both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is." So, right there, Ra addresses both of those two present truths: apparent distortion yet total (chuckles) perfection...and this is where, I think, we need to be careful because some seekers hear that all is infinite and they think that they can - and this is what Austin was getting at when he was talking about the work that needs to be done - some seekers hear that "all is infinite" and they think they can negate or deny &/or ignore their own work, their own lessons, and their own energetic material...and illusory though separation may be...the illusion, the idea of separation, has power. It absolutely demands and requires that we move through a process. We do our work in consciousness and we walk our disciplined path, in order to get to the other shore as it were, in order to move through the gateway and merge into the infinite creator realizing that we (chuckles) are already realized - that there never was doubt, that there never was confusion, that there never was illusion, that there never was separation, that there never was a gate to walk through. One of my favorite short statements from Ramana Maharsi is he says "illusion itself is illusory" but we have to work through that illusion to get to that point to see, and to realize, that understanding...and I think i'll stop there...
Carla: I think you're absolutely right. However, I do think that there is a certain distance that a person has to go in the bumper car ride that life is - bouncing off of other people and what they have to say and to do to us, bouncing off of them with our reactions, boom boom boom. You watch people that are very dramatic in acting out and it's very quick, you know. A bumper car ride goes very quickly and everything bumps and there are other people that things don't tend to bump and they may be closer to realizing that all is one but they may still have a very keen perception of the bumper car ride. So I am at that place of having a nervous sympathy for people who are struggling with this, and all spiritual perception - for people who haven't found their feet completely, or altogether, and I just want to help, you know, and I have no idea how but I do see the pain involved the suffering involved, in the feeling of it being a bumper car ride, and there is a lack of suffering in the realization of unity and on the other hand it takes a while for most people to get there - so they will suffer. I guess the problem with suffering doesn't come into this, though, this is basically just an intellectual question: is all one - period? or is all one in potentiation? And you're saying, 'hey, look, the deeper truth and the truth that people see when they're with it is: all is one - forget the rest, it's just illusion.' how true? how true? how true? but how hard to grasp and how hard to make your own.
Gary: I think, according to my own study, one who has awakened to that truth doesn't turn a blind eye to those still within in the dream - those still dreaming the dream. Take the Buddha, for instance, if the story is accurate...under the bodhi tree, he becomes enlightened...moves through his temptations and upon awakening from the dream looks about himself and realizes that there's suffering everywhere - life is suffering - and everybody wants happiness but they don't know how to get it so he doesn't just enter a cave and bliss out and exist an infinite being, because all is one and there's no work to do, he instead orients his life to service and decides to speak to those still within the dream and tell them that, essentially, that they are dreaming. He teachings suffering, and the end to suffering, and doesn't develop a cosmology like the Law of One offers but gives a methodology for awakening from the dream and dedicates the remainder of his incarnation towards that end - so nothing, in my own thinking, implies indifference. I mean Ra says there are fundamental teachings of all planes of existence and they start by saying that all things are one and they say that in that unity lies love, in that unity lies light, in that unity lies joy, these are the fundamental teachings of all planes of existence so that realization of oneness necessarily contains, and includes, love. I mean that sort of entity, who understands that there is no separation, that heart chakra is fully alive and well and has empathy for those within in the dream but at the same time he sees - and this is the metaphor I got from Ramana Maharsi - that awakened entity sees that the suffering is an illusion, the pain is illusion; they're just images on a screen; the fire and the movie being projected onto the screen doesn't burn the screen. What is real, ultimately, can't be threatened, or hurt or impaired, et cetera; it's the images that are participating in the suffering. Again, this isn't a call not have empathy for those within the dream but to recognize the backdrop of infinity against which all that pain seems to be happening.
Carla: That satisfies me completely.
Austin: Just a couple thoughts that Gary brought to my head...you were talking about the idea of a potential unity only comes into play when we introduce the aspect of time, and time existing, and Ra actually says at one point there is past present and future in 3rd density, responding to a question from Don about past communication from the confederation where they said there is no past and no future, but Ra is pretty clearly saying that here in 3rd density, you know, we experience past present and future - obviously it's there. And the idea that...you said that the paradox will not be solved in our minds, and I actually read something last night that I really liked that is pretty relevant. It says, "The universe does not contain paradox. Paradox exists only as the result of limited minds attempting to comprehend an unlimited universe." I thought that was really fucking awesome.
Carla: Yeah, I like that.
Gary: Anybody have anything further to add to that question? (Nope) There was another damn Ra quote I really wanted to find...Our next question comes from Andrew B. via email...
13:00 - 35:35
Gary: Thank you, so much, Carla.
We shall move on to our first question...
It comes from isis via Bring4th. isis asks, "All is one, in potential? Or all is one - period. Or both? Or what?"
Carla: The answer is both, I think. All is one - period...that's in 6th density. We are still in potentiation in 3rd density being able to see it all as one. We are sitting here and making the choice - this is the density of choice. We still have to go through the density of love, and the density of light, before we hit 6th density - the density of unity. So, all is one in 6th density...all is one, in potential, in 3rd density...and all is one as we are able to see it...absolutely. Everybody else, have at it.
Unknown: (laughter)
Austin: Right, it's basically both but, especially here in 3rd density, we have to realize that it is mostly in potential. We can probably reach a state in meditation, or random moments, where the unity of the entire universe is revealed to us as an absolute truth, just through experience, but for almost everybody in our waking state throughout the day it's not something that is apparent and it's not obvious and as we go through our lives and do our work the idea of potential, I think, is really important. There's a couple of Ra quotes that I think were relevant to this in that it highlights the idea of potential and the role of potential in our lives and Don is basically asking about the definition of intelligent infinity and in the first quote Ra says, "There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy. The nature of this work is dependent upon the particular distortion of free will which in turn is the nature of a particular intelligent energy of kinetic focus of the potential of unity or that which is all." And so we are basically here, in 3rd density, to do work to get back to where 'all is one' is not just a potential...and to realize or do that, to get back to the creator, I think it's important for us to realize the difference between the potential and the kinetic as we're going through the kinetic and the complete unity all is one is the potential but we have to do the work to get there. (pause) Sorry, there was another Ra quote that might confuse things a little bit...
Carla: (laughs) I thought that was excellent, by the way.
Austin: Thank you...It's in the same session - just a couple questions later. They're trying to explain the same topic and at first it sounds a little bit contradictory but Ra goes on to explain. Ra says, "There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential *in relation* to intelligent energy. In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided, one use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other terms in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by focuses of energy, we call intelligent energy." So I think, in a lot of words, Ra is basically saying both; all is one in potential...and all is one - period.
Carla: Mhm.
Jim: It kind of leads to a paradox which might be a good thing. Ra said that paradox is one of the signs of being on the spiritual path. Before there was a creation, the only type of service possible: STS...and if you consider that each of us is learning something that helps the creator to know itself then the basic way the creator learns itself is through STS. However, in a manifested state - the positive polarity - the STO polarity, seems to be the one that produces the most knowledge of the creator and the STOs value; it's the path that which is, as Ra said, but for the negative path, the STS - the path that which is not, seems to separate by beholding that position...and that concept in the mind seems to separate us but when seen from the point-of-view of the creator STS is the way to learn.
Carla: Right, right...I think the way that the path of that which is not manages to separate out love is they just skip the green ray chakra. They skip over the heart and they go from the...I have trouble counting the rays - is it the 3rd ray? They skip from the 3rd ray, yellow ray, to - you know, that's (Jim: To the blue) that's relationships - straight to the blue...right to the intellect and so for a STS entity it's all in the head. It can never be in the heart because there is no heart except as a reality. I skipped the one that pumps and beats, you know, in the flesh. There's no heart. That's all considered, by the path that which is not, a false thing - an illusion that just spoils people, and brings them down, and limits them...and to them the path of that which is not is the path that is free. Well in the intellect, I suppose, it feels freer than the heart because the heart does offer limitations. The heart offers the limitation of 'I want to serve, I want to love' and so they have to look at everybody as somebody to serve, somebody as a soul, and the path of that which is not looks at other people as can be used or those which are thought.
Gary: Jim, did you have anything more to add?
Jim: Well, that paradox to me just gives me the comfort of knowing that all is well. So whatever happens in the manifested world, with the negative over positive and the positive struggling against the negative forces, that it's all teaching the creator and it's the creator learning about itself in the smaller version of ourselves as mind/body/spirit complexes and in the larger version of the wholeness of the creator who made all things. So...all is well, whatever it looks like.
Carla: And you're saying that, basically, if it's all of STS to the creator then it would necessarily be all of STS to it's created parts?
Jim: Right.
Carla: There's the paradox.
Jim: Yeah.
Gary: You guys are blowing my mind. It's interesting that all three of you addressed basically 'what is paradox' because that's the direction my own response is going to move into and apologies in advance because I didn't get sleep last night - so I had caffeine this morning... (Carla: Hahaha, you're flyin'.) Ooh yeah...since the meditation retreat I've only had it twice, & this being the second time, and I really should stay away from it - so I'm going to try to counter my intensity of energy and bring myself back down. So...This particular topic is my favorite, you could say. It's at the center of my own path and I think it's the central mystical question at the heart of the Law of One as well - that primal paradox between the many and one or separation and unity et cetera. So I have a lot to say about it and I would like to start my own response by focusing on the the twin categories of thought between What Is and What Is Not. Ra begins the contact with L/L group in question number 7 of session 1...they say, "In truth, there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You ARE every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You ARE unity. You ARE infinity. You ARE love/light, light/love. You ARE. This is the Law of One."
So we begin with the category of What Is. What is...is unity. What is...is infinity. What is...is oneness. Not what will eventually be, or what will potentially be, because "eventually" implies time...but rather what is eternally - right now. So no matter how real the separation seems, no matter what entity you are, no matter the density, or the location, or the particular layer of the dream, no matter even what octave you're experiencing, it is always infinity - it is always one - period; there is no other way. Not only is IT always infinity but YOU ARE, always, infinity. This, to me, is what the Law of One is ultimately all about...who and what you are.
Now, to the other category of What Is Not. According to my understanding, things are not in actuality separate; things are not, ultimately, finite; there is not, in reality, manyness - it only appears that way...It only seems that way. This is why the word 'illusion' is applied and alternately this is why the word 'distortion' is applied. So how does Ra address what is not? Firstly, recall the quote that I just read from Ra. Ra makes their first mention of what is not when they say "In truth, there is NO right or wrong. There is NO polarity" and then in session 4, question 20, Ra goes on to say, "Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is NO disharmony, NO imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect."
So we have pretty clear statements about "what is" and "what is not" but this is where it gets problematic, for the 3rd density seeker, because these two statements, of two categories - identifying what is and what it not - seem to represent two completely contradictory truths. They represent an absolute paradox to our mental comprehension and, as I understand these things, this paradox will not be resolved in our minds. Infinity transcends any possible category of thought that we can create. We can think as clearly and "accurately" as words and concepts will allow but it is only through going beyond identification with thought-forms, through the discipline of meditation, that the paradox is...understood...if I can use that word? It's only in the - (Carla: Grokked. The word is...) - grokked haha, way better word, thank you - it's only in the silence and the stillness of the present moment where exists an awareness - an awareness which simultaneously sees and embraces the paradox that you could describe thusly:
A.) No matter surface appearances, all things are infinite and one - right here and right now. This is it. You are looking at infinity. You are infinity...Not some other place, not some other time, not when you finish 8th density, but right now...This is infinity - you're experiencing it. and B.) There yet seems to be separation and manyness and distortion and imperfection...et cetera. There seems to be a future in which you will eventually become infinite. So these two seemingly opposite points of view are expressed when Ra says, in session 55 question 1, "The seeker seeks the One. The One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self" - And here's the key phrase - "aware, both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is." So, right there, Ra addresses both of those two present truths: apparent distortion yet total (chuckles) perfection...and this is where, I think, we need to be careful because some seekers hear that all is infinite and they think that they can - and this is what Austin was getting at when he was talking about the work that needs to be done - some seekers hear that "all is infinite" and they think they can negate or deny &/or ignore their own work, their own lessons, and their own energetic material...and illusory though separation may be...the illusion, the idea of separation, has power. It absolutely demands and requires that we move through a process. We do our work in consciousness and we walk our disciplined path, in order to get to the other shore as it were, in order to move through the gateway and merge into the infinite creator realizing that we (chuckles) are already realized - that there never was doubt, that there never was confusion, that there never was illusion, that there never was separation, that there never was a gate to walk through. One of my favorite short statements from Ramana Maharsi is he says "illusion itself is illusory" but we have to work through that illusion to get to that point to see, and to realize, that understanding...and I think i'll stop there...
Carla: I think you're absolutely right. However, I do think that there is a certain distance that a person has to go in the bumper car ride that life is - bouncing off of other people and what they have to say and to do to us, bouncing off of them with our reactions, boom boom boom. You watch people that are very dramatic in acting out and it's very quick, you know. A bumper car ride goes very quickly and everything bumps and there are other people that things don't tend to bump and they may be closer to realizing that all is one but they may still have a very keen perception of the bumper car ride. So I am at that place of having a nervous sympathy for people who are struggling with this, and all spiritual perception - for people who haven't found their feet completely, or altogether, and I just want to help, you know, and I have no idea how but I do see the pain involved the suffering involved, in the feeling of it being a bumper car ride, and there is a lack of suffering in the realization of unity and on the other hand it takes a while for most people to get there - so they will suffer. I guess the problem with suffering doesn't come into this, though, this is basically just an intellectual question: is all one - period? or is all one in potentiation? And you're saying, 'hey, look, the deeper truth and the truth that people see when they're with it is: all is one - forget the rest, it's just illusion.' how true? how true? how true? but how hard to grasp and how hard to make your own.
Gary: I think, according to my own study, one who has awakened to that truth doesn't turn a blind eye to those still within in the dream - those still dreaming the dream. Take the Buddha, for instance, if the story is accurate...under the bodhi tree, he becomes enlightened...moves through his temptations and upon awakening from the dream looks about himself and realizes that there's suffering everywhere - life is suffering - and everybody wants happiness but they don't know how to get it so he doesn't just enter a cave and bliss out and exist an infinite being, because all is one and there's no work to do, he instead orients his life to service and decides to speak to those still within the dream and tell them that, essentially, that they are dreaming. He teachings suffering, and the end to suffering, and doesn't develop a cosmology like the Law of One offers but gives a methodology for awakening from the dream and dedicates the remainder of his incarnation towards that end - so nothing, in my own thinking, implies indifference. I mean Ra says there are fundamental teachings of all planes of existence and they start by saying that all things are one and they say that in that unity lies love, in that unity lies light, in that unity lies joy, these are the fundamental teachings of all planes of existence so that realization of oneness necessarily contains, and includes, love. I mean that sort of entity, who understands that there is no separation, that heart chakra is fully alive and well and has empathy for those within in the dream but at the same time he sees - and this is the metaphor I got from Ramana Maharsi - that awakened entity sees that the suffering is an illusion, the pain is illusion; they're just images on a screen; the fire and the movie being projected onto the screen doesn't burn the screen. What is real, ultimately, can't be threatened, or hurt or impaired, et cetera; it's the images that are participating in the suffering. Again, this isn't a call not have empathy for those within the dream but to recognize the backdrop of infinity against which all that pain seems to be happening.
Carla: That satisfies me completely.
Austin: Just a couple thoughts that Gary brought to my head...you were talking about the idea of a potential unity only comes into play when we introduce the aspect of time, and time existing, and Ra actually says at one point there is past present and future in 3rd density, responding to a question from Don about past communication from the confederation where they said there is no past and no future, but Ra is pretty clearly saying that here in 3rd density, you know, we experience past present and future - obviously it's there. And the idea that...you said that the paradox will not be solved in our minds, and I actually read something last night that I really liked that is pretty relevant. It says, "The universe does not contain paradox. Paradox exists only as the result of limited minds attempting to comprehend an unlimited universe." I thought that was really fucking awesome.
Carla: Yeah, I like that.
Gary: Anybody have anything further to add to that question? (Nope) There was another damn Ra quote I really wanted to find...Our next question comes from Andrew B. via email...
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