If you could ask Ra a question

[JoshC]

"Please clarify this whole Harvest/2012 winter solstice business."

That or, "in 4d can I still go snowboarding?" :p

[Ra Harachte]

Why 23

[Peregrinus]

Why 23

Because there is what we might call a creationary clock, and as such, all events are on a schedule.

[Solon]

Firstly, we are not here to help others awaken. Secondly, we are not 'trapped" in this 3D body.

Hi Peregrinus. Thank you for your response. I wonder if I should start a second thread about this. Actually, I wonder if it would be better if I read through old posts before posting.

[Peregrinus]

Reading through the many threads is a worthwhile consideration, for in them there has been much discussion on "everything under the sun" hehe.

There is also the resource of the channelling sessions, now over 1800 of them, brother, with which one may increase their understanding and knowledge

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/tr..._year.aspx

If you do not find what you seek, then post, and by all means, post as you see fit, for we are here to serve and do our best to do so

[Peregrinus]

Question: Can you please explain "duel activated body" in the sense of those that incarnate here for both 3rd density and 4th density work?

Question: I would suspect that a planet would be used for several 3rd density cycles, and as such I have this question. We find, in what we call Southern Africa, the remnants of a large civilization that was on Earth, approximately 200,000 years ago, and we understand that this civilization mined gold by its vicinity to gold resources. Was this civilization part of a previous cycle to this one, and if it was a previous cycle, was it ended with a great flood?

[Ashim]

I am not Ra. These are my thoughts.

I believe the 'dual activation' refers to the ability to be in 3D and in contact with Intelligent Infinity.
I postulate that wanderers have an inbuilt ability to become telepathic. A self actuated 're-connection' to establish a full state of awareness. We have already polarised to the light. This is 'imprinted' within our social memory complex and is a very real part of our beingness.

To answer the second question; yes and yes.

Love & Light

[carrie]

I'll divide up the questions. They are interesting.

a) Is there a space and time generator device?

b) Is there such a machine called "DNA Encoder" which allows to do DNA encoding and DNA editing?

c) Can a higher-self be some part of another parallel universe?

d) Along with earth, are there also other planets ready to be harvested during the 2012 earth time-frame?

e) In order to access Intelligent Infinity, you need to be 95%> and 51%>. So..., in order to travel through time and space, does this condition apply? Hint: If you observe, the Orion Group needs to constantly be STS all the time, so they can travel through space and time. And of course, the Confederation needs to constantly defend or attack the Orion group.

f) Crystals comes with an instruction manual. I don't know how, it somehow was one of the most hidden or secretive instruction manual on earth. Does anyone have a copy of it willing to share?

g) If you access intelligent infinity, there seems to be a "shuttle service" (like a ferry between two space-ports) running around every few weeks or months that carry around passengers or goods around the star systems about this region of the galaxy. Is this true?

h) In order to access other Universes, you need to step into special portal. This returns you back to the place where the original creator is. From what is known, to enter this portal requires immense purity levels and immense love/light levels. There, you can see the other universes. Is this true?

[Ashim]

I will not provide any information that could be 'mis-used' by STS entities and thus provide here no comment. If you are familiar with any of these concepts please share only in ways you see fit that will serve the Positive Polarity and the overall goal of the Bring4th forum.

Carrie, in your post you mentioned the Orion Empire and the STS polarity. What is your polarity and why are you so keen on receiving this information?
With all due respect.

Love & Light

[peelstreetguy]

I would be tempted to ask Ra to explain what exactly happened to me when I had the biggest spiritual experience of my life, concerning the diamond and the rainbow.

The question I would ask though, is:

Ra, Would you please explain the relationship between Yahweh and Lucifer and the motives of each, relating to this planet and the creation in general and please include any other information on this topic that you think might be helpfull to us? Thank You.

[Ashim]

I am not Ra but I'll have a go at the question.

Yahweh is the macrocosm of us (humans). The entity/social memory complex is of 5th density. Yahwehs motive is like ours, to find home to the Creator. Specifically Yahweh is the Logos for our planet Earth. Yahweh, taking measures to 'speed up' the spiritual 'seeking of the light' of the earth inhabitants agreed to the introduction of the principle of free will to edenic earth.
Lucifer agreed to provide the catalyst of 'that which is not', or what we term 'evil'.
Lucifer is of 6th density. They are currently nearing the end of their cycle of incarnations in loving Service to all in the One.

The creation can be best understood from a 3D perspective as a 'stepping down' process.
Infinity becomes aware thus regocnising Infinite Energy or the potential to create all that can be.
The principle of free will enabled the one Infinite Creator to best experience that which he is not.
The Game of Polarity Intergration was thus started.
Universal Logoi, Galactic Logoi, Planetary Logoi and so on.
The Grand Central Sun sends 'sparks' of itself, again maintaining the free will distortion. These 'suns' or stars again step down in the process of creation creating planetary Logoi.

The Sacrifice of Lucifer must also be understood. Due to the karmic effect of their mission here they are bound to a certain term of restitution on a 4th density negative planet before returning back to their fullest expression of 6th density gaurdians in the Confederation. Here they will have to experience the full rebound of their negative doings whilst playing their 'role' here on earth.

After their cycle is completed they will jump back to their home density, from 4th negative to 6th.
There is no Negative Harvest after 4D. No way to progress as the energy source (negativity) is constantly being exhausted.

The negative entities of 5th density that Ra often refered to pose an interesting question.
If there is no Negative Harvest after the 95% / 51% split, then how, and in what 'form' do these entities exist?
I postulate that they are all wanderers. This is the only way to progress in 4D Negative.

Wanderers are known to 'switch' polarity from time to time.

Love & Light

Edit for bad info.

[peelstreetguy]

Yes,that is pretty much what I understood from reading the HH material. I believe Ra has said that STS entities exist up to mid 6th density......


I wonder what other social memory complexes are involved with our planet besides the confederation ones we know of (The Principal of Quo) and Yahweh and Lucifer?

I'm assuming you mean that Yahweh is the logos of our solar system. Is this correct?

[Ashim]

No, Ra is our Solar Logos.

Love & Light

[peelstreetguy]

ok.

So who is the planetary logos for Maldek which exploded and who is the logos for Mars which was rendered uninhabitable?

All those souls which now incarnate on planet Earth.


I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to figure out here. Perhaps it should be a different thread?

[Namaste]

My question would be this:

Please could you explain, in detail, the experience/transition/options awaiting the positively polarised mind/body/spirit complexes ready for 4th density harvest at the end of the cycle ending on 21st December, 2012?

I would hope for clarification on whether the transition is instantaneous, akin to a shift onto a higher vibration/density, or whether the harvested entities vanish from 3D eyes (think the Celestine Prophecy), or the croaking of the chemical bodies? Is the shift even 'detectable'?

These are the questions in my mind at the moment, and my current feeling is that of a dimensional/density shift, i.e. a leap into a lighter realm (with the choice to stay in 3D and help others in understanding the Law of One). All I can say is regardless of this, it that it's going to be a moment of love, evolution and destiny.

[JoshC]

No one in 3D knows for sure what will happen. David Wilcock feels he has proven that it will be a spontaneous shift, and Carla Reuckert leans towards the gradual transition (death of 3d body before ascension). I am undecided. Also, it's not exactly on 12/21/12 because of some metaphysical aspects I know nothing about. Hope that didn't complicate it too much :p

[Phoenix]

No, Ra is our Solar Logos.

Love & Light

I've read the Law of One books and believe myself to remember most parts. But I do not remember that.

Can you please explain precisely where it is?

[carrie]

in your post you mentioned the Orion Empire and the STS polarity. What is your polarity and why are you so keen on receiving this information?
With all due respect.

Ashim,
I got really busy the past few days. I'm recuperating from an injury and will try to respond asap.

It's essentially a long story.

[Ashim]

My best wishes for your quick recovery dear Carrie.

Love & Light

[Quade]

Question:

In the context of the collapsing inward pattern of the 64 tetrahedron and its otter expanding dimensions of the sphere encompassing it, also within the iteration of a fractal; Is our transition into fourth density existence a traversing of this fractal to the next iteration?

Does this apply not only to us, but the entire planet?

Will we understand this pattern better in forth density existence and how to apply its principles better?

Is there a significant use of this pattern for us now?

Does this pattern only apply to our illusion of existence, or does it apply to all of the levels encompassed by the Law of One?

[Ashim]

I think I gather what you are asking but am not sure.
The 64 tetrahedron is the 'inward' collapse into the 'black hole' of time/space. The 'bubble' is the 'physical' Universe.

The progession within he Game of Polarity Integration involves opening more and more surface area for the light/love to impact.

The photon model would be the best approximation of these Universal Laws as known to us at this time.

With each density shift the photon receives an addition axis of 'spin'. This is the mechanism of exposing the physical Universe to the Love/Light of it's time/space antithesis. Thus the dynamics of Creation are enacted.

The biggest problem/challenge is that we have been taught almost the complete opposite for all of our academic life.

The 'photon model' is documented in the appendix of the "Base New berlin" report, published and made available by Project Camelot.

I am not a qualified scientist so it would be interesting to get some opinions on this theory from anyone that knows a quark from a lepton.

Love & Light

[Quade]

Um,... ya!

After listening to a 8 hour video on the topic and thinking how it could be applied to the Law of One, They seem related, at least to me, as an expression of it. And since it seemed it was something extraterrestrials seem to be tromping out in corn fields, why not just ask!? :idea:

[kylissa]

The negative entities of 5th density that Ra often refered to pose an interesting question.
If there is no Negative Harvest after the 95% / 51% split, then how, and in what 'form' do these entities exist?

This quote might help, wondered the same thing myself.. the law of confusion still surrounds this topic a bit..

In fifth-density negative, service to self has become extremely intense and the self has shrunk or compacted so that the dialogues with the teach/learners are used exclusively in order to intensify wisdom. There are very, very few fifth-density negative Wanderers for they fear the forgetting. There are very, very few fifth-density Orion members for they do not any longer perceive any virtue in other-selves.

[JoshC]

I don't fully believe what H_H said, though most of it rings true for me. For Ra vs H_H concepts, I prefer to accept Ra's. So I think that there are 5th and 6th negative.

L/L

[Lavazza]

I don't fully believe what H_H said, though most of it rings true for me. For Ra vs H_H concepts, I prefer to accept Ra's.

Honestly, I've always assumed H_H was just some guy on the internet who is extremely interested in occult material and in playing ego-trip games on esoteric forums-- doing so with the Ra books handy as a guide for spiritual information and vocabulary. Certainly causes quite a stir that way. I may be wrong- I cannot prove anything- just a hunch of mine.

Love and light to all, including our double H friend, whoever he or she is

[Ashim]

I don't fully believe what H_H said, though most of it rings true for me. For Ra vs H_H concepts, I prefer to accept Ra's. So I think that there are 5th and 6th negative.

L/L

What exactly do you not understand? The truth always resonates.

Love & Light

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I don't fully believe what H_H said, though most of it rings true for me. For Ra vs H_H concepts, I prefer to accept Ra's.

Honestly, I've always assumed H_H was just some guy on the internet who is extremely interested in occult material and in playing ego-trip games on esoteric forums-- doing so with the Ra books handy as a guide for spiritual information and vocabulary. Certainly causes quite a stir that way. I may be wrong- I cannot prove anything- just a hunch of mine.

Love and light to all, including our double H friend, whoever he or she is

I find your view a little 'far fetched' that someone would do this and not be 'outed' as a hoax. I am not allowed to endorse, quote or otherwise refer to the H_H material as I value the company here on Bring4th so much and would otherwise not be able to continue our discussions.
I do not 'endorse' his 'views' nor have I anything remotely to do with the STS faction.
If our style of discourse and message sound similar there is good reason for this. I personally have never been involved with 'ego trip games' or the like.
The material you refered to is not my source of information presented on this forum.


Love & Light

[airwaves]

i would ask to clarify the whole deal about dec 2012.

That gets my vote! Although, Q'uo has done that recently, I've heard...waiting for the transcript.

They have done it about twice a year since contact started.........

It seems we miss out every time, or maybe I just intuit the unspoken details?

[Ashim]

Let me try to clarify my opinion on the wanderer issue.

The densities of the Creation are also known as levels of awareness.

Here is an example.
A 5th density wanderer here on earth ‘picks up’ the wrong channel and becomes subservient to a being of Negative Polarity. The offer of the entity to the wanderer is one of wisdom of STS. The wanderer becomes a student of the ‘dark’ side with the intent of complete separation from the Source.

The wanderer reached a Polarity of 80% STS on termination of the incarnation.

Thus the wanderer is given the choice to receive teach/learning in the polarity of their choosing. You can see the ‘dilemma’. Should the wanderer wish to revert back to their original polarity before the incarnation then a forgiving of 80% would be necessary. That means re-living this portion of your ‘life’ to forgive the self. Then the polarity would be restored back to positive.
The Negative path would be ‘quicker’ as only 20% was neglected during the incarnation. However as the soul progresses in it’s growth at some point the wisdom of 6th density ‘hits home’ and the entity reverts back to positive.

There is no Harvest after 4th density. This is the nature of the future aspect of our space/time.

The wanderer can be of any Polarity and at any one stage of their progression. Remember we are in ‘school’.
The positive Polarity has access to the higher workings of Divine Will.

We recall that the densities have particular creational powers.
6th are Solar Logoi. They are responsible for entire systems. 5th are Planetary Logoi responsible for one particular planet.

4th density have to ‘share’ a planet.
4D Negative is just a ‘time bubble’. They avoid in this way the progression towards the light, creating a parallel. Trouble is, they eventually run out of energy or ‘fuel’.
Some of the poor Souls (ET’s but actually a future aspect of earth humans) that ‘co-operate’ with the various governments have just this problem at the top of their (self serving) agenda. Their bodies can no longer ‘stand’ the light.
5D Negative, very wise. Planetary Ruler. Nasty place to be.
6th density Negative. Solar Logos for a system. Very powerful entity. Also nasty place.
But as we see the LOO is available for both the dark and the light.
Can you see the mind of the Creator in this process of finding out what he is not?
Polarity Integration is the format of this Creation.

So you see the limitations of the ‘dark’ side in this wonderful game of ‘cosmic billiards’ we are involved in.

Love & Light

[xlsander]

beautiful post ashim - i really think we should mee tsometime up here in germany - any other LOO educated people you know from germany?

[Ashim]

beautiful post ashim - i really think we should mee tsometime up here in germany - any other LOO educated people you know from germany?

Thanks xl! I don't know a lot of people - I'm a bit of a 'hermit' to be honest.

Falls du etwas organisieren möchtest bin ich selbstverständlich dafür.
Kennst du dich mit HTML aus? Lust auf ein kleines deutschsprachiges Projekt?

Ich melde mich bei dir.

Liebe & Licht