spirit complex in Wanderers

[Plenum]

can someone help me find the quote where it says:

Wanderers have a 3d mind complex, a 3d body complex, but their spirit complex is of their native density?

and is this the reason why (a higher density spirit complex) that Wanderers radiate love (4d Wanderers), radiate light (5d Wanderers) or both love and light (6d Wanderers).

thanks.

[Aloysius]

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Those who heal may be of any density which has the consciousness of the spirit. This includes third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh. The third density can be one in which healing takes place just as the others. However, there is more illusory material to understand, to balance, to accept, and to move forward from.

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Know then, first, the mind and the body. Then as the spirit is integrated and synthesized, those are harmonized into a mind/body/spirit complex which can move among the dimensions and which can open the gateway to intelligent infinity, thus healing self by light and sharing that light with others.

the spirit complex is indeed the longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed, balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the instrument is then ready to proceed with the great work.

That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards, and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.

And finally the big One

As we have said before, Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of such influence to a Wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not as it would appropriately be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.

I don't think it's explicitly stated the way as requested though, maybe. That's the first one

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Ah i had the other one your looking for but accidentally lost it, will refind

[Plenum]

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Ah i had the other one your looking for but accidentally lost it, will refind

yeah, I hope you can. I just had a look myself ... and maybe thought I had misremembered the quote. I did find this one which seems to suggest that the dna connetions are to a 3d mind/body/spirit complex for a Wanderer.

Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex.

ummm. memory, oh memory.

[spero]

16.59 Questioner: The many Wanderers coming to this planet now and in the recent past— are they subject to Orion thoughts?

Ra: I am Ra. As we have said before, Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of such influence to a Wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not as it would appropriately be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.
Furthermore, the Wanderer is, in its own mind/body/spirit complex, less distorted towards the, shall we say, deviousness of third-density positive/negative confusions. Thus, it often does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual the negative nature of thoughts or beings.

maybe

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whoops you guys already found that one lol.....just woke up

[Aureus]

Misread the question..

[xise]

Might be Q'uo.

[reeay]

What does 3D radiate?

[zenmaster]

and is this the reason why (a higher density spirit complex) that Wanderers radiate love (4d Wanderers), radiate light (5d Wanderers) or both love and light (6d Wanderers).

I think the spirit complex informs the mind in such a manner that as the 3D entity removes distortions, an archetypal structure is expressed in 3D mind which is of the native density. The spirit complex contains "distilled experience" which biases our learning.

Actual quote is "Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied."

So it does not say that "they do that", it says "there are those" (of the x density) who have these abilities.

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What does 3D radiate?

Self-awareness and social interaction, depending on degree of consciousness (vibratory-level manifested).

"yellow ray which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction"
"yellow ray is a focal and very powerful ray and concerns the entity in relation to, shall we say, groups, societies, or large numbers of mind/body/spirit complexes"

So basically the 3D radiation is of the meme dealing with *how* people can socialize, work together, problem solve, organize, and generally relate. The meme is a type of sub-logos.

[reeay]

How does that work - if m/b is 3D and spirit complex is 'biased' or 'radiated' on another density level? There are those of is like, they may have a higher likelihood of or capasity to show those abilities to a higher level?

[zenmaster]

How does that work - if m/b is 3D and spirit complex is 'biased' or 'radiated' on another density level? There are those of is like, they may have a higher likelihood of or capasity to show those abilities to a higher level?

Well yes, that's what billions of years of evolution affords. The radiation is of this density - that is how we experience *everything* here with our mind/body. Our mind complex interprets what is offered through from the spirit complex (via intuition) in what is considered an appropriate manner based on suggestive bias - that which we are congruent with.

[Plenum]

I think the spirit complex informs the mind in such a manner that as the 3D entity removes distortions, an archetypal structure is expressed in 3D mind which is of the native density. The spirit complex contains "distilled experience" which biases our learning.

Actual quote is "Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied."

So it does not say that "they do that", it says "there are those" (of the x density) who have these abilities.

yes, thank you. That clarifies things immensely. It is a very close and precise reading of the text.

so yes, the spirit complex of wanderers is also of 3d, but what is brought through is of the nature of the native density; and as you say, this can only be accessed/expressed as the distortions in the mind/body complexes are reduced.

[zenmaster]

I think the spirit complex informs the mind in such a manner that as the 3D entity removes distortions, an archetypal structure is expressed in 3D mind which is of the native density. The spirit complex contains "distilled experience" which biases our learning.

Actual quote is "Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied."

So it does not say that "they do that", it says "there are those" (of the x density) who have these abilities.

yes, thank you. That clarifies things immensely. It is a very close and precise reading of the text.

so yes, the spirit complex of wanderers is also of 3d, but what is brought through is of the nature of the native density; and as you say, this can only be accessed/expressed as the distortions in the mind/body complexes are reduced.

my understanding is that the spirit complex is always of the native density. the mind and body complexes are of 3D. We experience *everything* through our mind and body complexes. The "shuttle" of intuition can draw upon the unconscious mind which is necessarily "framed" by the entity's native-density spirit complex. The mind (via learning) is what allows the spirit to actualize in this density.

[Aureus]

As the entity evolves and makes use of higher energies, it literally radiates them outwards. Red through yellow energies typically end where your body ends.

So it doesn't matter whether s/he is a wanderer or not, it depends how much of the self has been manifested in mind and body.

[AnthroHeart]

my understanding is that the spirit complex is always of the native density. the mind and body complexes are of 3D.

That's good to know about spirit. It takes some of the worry off about harvesting and making it back to my native density. When we're in time/space, is everything filtered through the mind/body still, or is time/space all about spirit?

[zenmaster]

my understanding is that the spirit complex is always of the native density. the mind and body complexes are of 3D.

That's good to know about spirit. It takes some of the worry off about harvesting and making it back to my native density. When we're in time/space, is everything filtered through the mind/body still, or is time/space all about spirit?

Time/space is your mind which is mostly unconscious. Spirit is outside of that.