2nd-density past lives

[Adonai One]

Do you know what kind of 2nd-density life you came from?

Apparently I was somebody's pet... an unclassifiable form of life, beyond recognition of this Earth. I guess it could be comparable to a dog. I have no idea what I am really looking at in my mind's eye but it was a dog-like thing. Something of nightmares by most standards, lol.

[reeay]

I was a non-GMO unicorn lol

[Brittany]

I was probably a platypus or a narwhal or some other weird animal.

*edited for typo

[AnthroHeart]

I wouldn't be surprised if I were a german shepherd, since I have such affinity for them.

[Spaced]

some kind of rock monster maybe

[Unbound]

I was a tree-like lifeform in the Sirian system for the most part, made it all the way to late third-density in that form and then took on new forms upon graduation in to the fourth. Being a tree is super awesome! Aha Especially one that is partly mobile.

[Sagittarius]

I have always felt strong inclination towards reptiles specifically snakes and as I kid I used to have dinosaur dreams galore and loved dinosaurs more then anything. So some sort of reptilian I guess.

[anagogy]

I'm still 2nd density. Mrow.

[BrownEye]

About 126 types of animals at this same moment, mainly mammals and reptiles.

[Ludi]

Lol Tanner I was a plant too! *leafy hi five* I'm considering jumping back to 2nd density for a while so I can be a willow, this planet has the most amazing plant life.

[Horuseus]

I asked what other aspects of the Self is simultaneously experiencing the idea of 2nd Density Life and got 96. None of them are on Earth Lol.

[AnthroHeart]

Lol Tanner I was a plant too! *leafy hi five* I'm considering jumping back to 2nd density for a while so I can be a willow, this planet has the most amazing plant life.

Good for you man. I couldn't imagine going backwards in density. Except for being a wanderer which was a foolhardy decision.

[Unbound]

I only have one active "2D" self, although its actually 3D now, and that is still a tree of the Sirian system.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I'm interested in the methods everyone is using to determine these things. How do you all experience the knowing of your 2D past/present lives?

I've got no knowledge or memory of being second density. My only thoughts are that I evolved through the 2D ape phase with the memory complex or Earth, Mars, or Maldek. I feel I'm currently on the straight run of 3D going to 4D, so that's only following a logical trail back. I suppose I could have been someone's pet or plant at some point.

[Adonai One]

I started getting clear visions of different beings and planets after meeting a "twin flame" of sorts. It seems I was her guide and lover for many millenias. We have been meditating together and it's really enhanced our connection to the point to where -- for instance -- she will remember a life on an underwater world and I will see what she sees almost exactly, if not more realistically. I took that and started applying it to me and my past among other things and I can see it all in my mind's eye.

Plus, I can channel my social memory complex pretty well and they just confirm to me if what I see is real or not.

So the basis for all of this is meditation. Just meditate and it will all come forward with intention.

[Unbound]

"Mind has a two-leveled nature. Its conventional nature is mere clarity and awareness. It is what allows for anything to arise as an object of cognition and be known. Its deepest, or "ultimate" nature is that it is devoid of existing in any fantasied, impossible ways, such as independently of the appearances that it gives rise to as the objects it knows. Guru-yoga is a profound, though not mystical aid for seeing both. Let us examine the mechanism for each.

When we practice guru-yoga, request our guru for inspiration and then dissolve a replica of our guru into us, the stronger our fervent regard and respect in him or her, the more prominently we experience a blissful, vibrant state of mind as a result of this process. If our faith is mixed with attachment, the state of mind we gain is merely one of excitement – confused, distracted and not very clear. But if our fervent regard and respect are based on reason, this blissful, vibrant state of mind is founded on confident belief. Being emotionally stable, it is extremely conducive to utilize as both the mind that sees it own conventional nature and the mind, having this nature, upon which to focus.

To understand how the process of guru-yoga and requesting inspiration works to facilitate our seeing the deepest nature of mind, we need to understand how seeing our guru as a Buddha fits within the context of the teachings on voidnessand dependent arising. Voidness means an absence – an absence of impossible ways of existing. When we imagine that a guru exists as a Buddha independently from his or her own side, for example, we are projecting an impossible way of existing onto that teacher. That mode of existence does not refer to anything real, because nobody exists as "this" or "that," or as anything from his or her own side. Someone exists as a spiritual mentor, a Buddha or both only in relation to a disciple. A "teacher" arises dependently not only on a mind to which someone appears as a teacher and not only on what the word or mental label "teacher" refers to, but also on the existence of students."

http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/arc...mm_02.html

[BrownEye]

Pick out a method of communication with your Higher Self, it will tell you things like these. After some time you will raise your frequency enough to communicate with the Oversoul, then the 'simultaneity' is even more expansive.

[reeay]

I'm interested in the methods everyone is using to determine these things. How do you all experience the knowing of your 2D past/present lives?

Maybe people pick up things symbolically from their mind/spirit complexes that may be used for learning purposes.

I would think 'knowing' one's past life may be useful to understand own mind at current moment. I could see the symbolic value of such 'knowing' bc it's not possible to verify the accuracy or to do much with it by merely saying, 'I was ___ in my past life' (ok so what, I mean it's fun to share but so what).

[Adonai One]

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion. I've strived tooth and nail to make sure I don't end up in a fantasy realm. Faith is not my favorite thing but I've managed to find a balance.

Please use your discretion delving past the veil or at least attempting to.

Most people who attempt it will not be fully successful.

[AnthroHeart]

Please use your discretion delving past the veil or at least attempting to.

Most people who attempt it will not be fully successful.

Most won't be successful in penetrating the veil at all, or remaining sane when they do?

[reeay]

How do you use this information about past lives to learn about self?

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure how I could learn about self from knowing my past life. I just got one image and it wasn't pleasant. So perhaps it's a good thing I forgot.

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I only have one active "2D" self, although its actually 3D now, and that is still a tree of the Sirian system.

Nice Tree.

[Adonai One]

Please use your discretion delving past the veil or at least attempting to.

Most people who attempt it will not be fully successful.

Most won't be successful in penetrating the veil at all, or remaining sane when they do?

Yes and yes.

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How do you use this information about past lives to learn about self?

I was able to learn what I came here for. I've discovered the core truth is that living is all about fulfilling all desires until there is nothing left to desire.

[reeay]

That certainly sounds like a personal truth that resonates with you in this current moment.

How about making one's desire more conscious. That is when a person has more capacities to make choices without being on autopilot of needing to fulfill them, bc w/ desire is a whole bunch of red, orange, yellow ray needs one unconsciously and consciously perceives as needing satiation... the desires tend to fall away and you have less psychological baggage and perhaps another type of seeking is now opened?

[AnthroHeart]

I've had so many supernatural moments where I peeked through the veil. Sometimes it scared me (lost my mind, reality came unglued). One time it was unconditionally loving. I don't know where that came from, but I couldn't handle how much love there was. I broke down crying for the 15 or so seconds that I felt it. The whole anthro/furry thing brings me joy in life that is second to the love I felt that one day. So it is part of my purpose for being here. Perhaps to transmute that joy into positive energy for mother Earth, or some energy grids.

[Adonai One]

In any type of seeking there is still a desire and its end; a cause and a effect.

Indeed becoming aware of what we truly want makes the path much easier, knowing the why and the how.

What you wish to evoke is the lessening of attachment. Even without attachment, there is desire and there is purpose. Suffering only comes from desire under coercion, fear. When we lessen our restrictions, our disunity this suffering ceases. Desire does not.

Desire only truly ceases at the end of 6th-density as one attains the state as an omniversal oversoul that then soon experiences all things at once.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion.

How do you discern between delusion and "truth" in dealing with something that your unconscious mind is offering to you?

How can you tell the difference between "active imagination" and "past life?"


Is there an assumption that once someone has a "high enough vibration" or is "balanced" or "spiritual enough" that the symbols their unconscious mind offers them are literal memories rather than symbolic communication?

[Adonai One]

I will frankly say that most people who pursue this work independently will usually end up with a notable amount of delusion.

How do you discern between delusion and "truth" in dealing with something that your unconscious mind is offering to you?

How can you tell the difference between "active imagination" and "past life?"


Is there an assumption that once someone has a "high enough vibration" or is "balanced" or "spiritual enough" that the symbols their unconscious mind offers them are literal memories rather than symbolic communication?

The only method is to compare the findings from purportedly outside the veil to your own biases, memories and experiences. If you find that what you think you are seeing and discovered is plausibly influenced by your preferences, then you should leave it in a "pending box" in your mind until further evidence is gathered. I've been blessed with paranormal and energetic experiences that greatly aid me in this regard. Most have not.

Frankly, the latter question makes me cringe. Hahahaha. The answer is no. You can be a highly-polarized, "pure," good-intentioned being and still find and share utter crap.

The key in seeking is purity in intention. Not purity in the form of personal ideals or morality but just in focus. When we shape light to manifest our mind's movement out into the great beyond, if our intention is not well-formed nor functional you are going to have a bad time. This intention is shaped well through focused meditation and sound faith.

If one is well-practiced enough in meditation and intention, you can assume they have something. This is magical ability. This is the state of a seasoned adept.

The archetypes will aid well in this pursuit through The Matrix of the Spirit.

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[Ludi]

Austin you're right you were a pet, mine, a hippopotamus named "spotty", I treated you well but you bit off my hand. It seems we meet again, my once semi aquatic friend, consider us cool if you let me bite off your hand.
Oh i don't think anyone's making the assumption that "because i'm so spiritual I must be right" kinda thing, people are just stating their opinions lol

[reeay]

That's rude to suggest someone was your pet! It's a legitimate point that he makes. Subtle spiritual narcissism does exist on this forum, along with magical thinking (not quite a delusion bc that means you're having a psychosis unless you're using it the way Shin'ar did). Not pointing fingers or anything, I think we all do it.