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    GentleReckoning (Offline)

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    09-11-2013, 12:55 AM
    I've cleared some stuff the past week or two, and my new 'resting' state is not congruent with the mediocre diet I've had the past 6 months or so.

    Time to start upgrading. :p
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    09-11-2013, 11:11 AM
    Man, I am with you on that aha

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    09-11-2013, 03:47 PM
    I highly recommend the movie "fat, sick, and nearly dead". It is the best is the best inspirational story I have seen.

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    09-11-2013, 04:14 PM
    The clearer you get, the more sensitive to foods you become. It's best to follow your own prompts and intuition, but starting with basic info is good: stay lower on the food chain; stay out of the middle of the grocery store to avoid processed food; stay hydrated. Smile

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    09-11-2013, 04:41 PM
    I definitely got more sensitive over the past two years.

    Before, it would take 2 liters of diet coke in a day for my skin to break out in rash.

    Now I notice that I break out in rash when I have some a few meals of processed food that have preservatives. C'est la vie. It almost feels as if my body instantly detoxes itself and apparently it likes to send stuff to my skin on my arms and legs lol.

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    09-11-2013, 05:08 PM
    I nearly passed out yesterday on a short bike ride... The whole time as i sat there next to my bike trying not to throw up I could only think about my diet.

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    09-11-2013, 08:13 PM
    (09-11-2013, 04:14 PM)Diana Wrote: The clearer you get, the more sensitive to foods you become.
    How's that?

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    09-11-2013, 08:16 PM
    (09-11-2013, 08:13 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (09-11-2013, 04:14 PM)Diana Wrote: The clearer you get, the more sensitive to foods you become.
    How's that?

    Other than the obvious, you get more sensitive to everything the more clearer you become, I see nothing "new". Whats the difficult part here?

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    09-11-2013, 08:43 PM
    What is "clear"?

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    09-11-2013, 08:48 PM
    If there are no distortions, and/or the body is clearing toxins from no longer needing to maintain physical distortions, taking in contaminants with food that the body is already removing will cause discomfort.

    Duh.

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    09-11-2013, 08:49 PM
    The time between previous impulses and their echo in your "mind" becomes distant from its present moment. Or. The amount of impulses lessen.

    Most often not the distance from in time as that is death/sleep but rather lessening of the number of impulses. Or, removal from the miasma of other selves and their opinions. Or impulses/catalyst generated by the self movement.

    Aka. Impulses feel harder if you've been without them for a while.

    Aka, The less other things that dont matter to you do, like become angry, agitated or what ever you dont want to do, the more taste you will have, which is entirely true because the number of experiental nexus that you have to reflect your experiences on (neurons) no longer connect together with anger root neuron area, but rather, taste association neuron area.

    This should be neurobiology 101? So I'm surprised as to if I'm mistaking something else for something else or you're not agreeing with this part. In which case I would love to hear your theory on impulse signal differention and interpretation of this differention as "clear" and "unclear" or "no impulse/darkness" and "lots of impulse/brightness".

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    09-11-2013, 08:52 PM
    lol. no, go ahead with your fun.

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    09-11-2013, 09:03 PM
    (09-11-2013, 08:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: lol. no, go ahead with your fun.

    Mm. When did I give you the permission to say when I can or cant have fun you authoritarian.

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    09-11-2013, 11:08 PM
    Oh, you guys...
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    09-12-2013, 12:24 PM
    (09-11-2013, 08:13 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (09-11-2013, 04:14 PM)Diana Wrote: The clearer you get, the more sensitive to foods you become.
    How's that?

    By that I mean on all levels, but it's all interconnected. So, if you start cleaning up your diet, for instance, and your body starts "waking up" from the sluggishness of having to continually deal with toxins, there is more energy for maintaining health, and more energy to respond to what's being ingested. Likewise, when you become more aware of others, and the consciousness extends beyond self, it also "wakes up" the awareness about all, and you become more cognizant and reactive to what you ingest. The less you are sleeping, stagnant, and blocked and clogged, and anesthetized by the media, the more clear you become, and the more sensitive your awareness is with truthful responses.

    This is not a theory on my part, but rather based on experience.

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    09-12-2013, 12:33 PM
    So crappy spiritual experiences could be from a crappy diet?
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    09-12-2013, 12:58 PM
    (09-12-2013, 12:33 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So crappy spiritual experiences could be from a crappy diet?

    That may be too linear as so many things are interconnected, but yes, I do think so. For example, I came across a book written by Madame Blavatsky many years ago, head of the Theosophical Society. The Theosophists, a group of spiritualists in the early 20th century claimed to see energies. They mentioned that drinking alcohol--even just wine--attracted dark energies or beings. They said they could see them for instance, gathered heavily in the corners of barrooms. When I read that, and along with the other very interesting observations in the book, I felt the truth of it. Perhaps it may have been only true for me, but I don't think so. Many philosophies talk about auras or energy bodies being damaged or muddy or having "holes" from ingesting substances, and also from emotional negativity or imbalances, etc. If one must take a medication for example, if it were me, I would endeavor to counteract any ill affects by strengthening my body with supportive supplements perhaps, to assist the liver and build the immune system. It's similar to the idea of taking probiotics to replenish the flora after taking antibiotics. The central point, to me, is to optimize all I can, where I can. Smile

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    09-12-2013, 04:04 PM
    The physical and metaphysical are inseparable. As above, so below.

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    09-12-2013, 04:56 PM
    I'd speculate that as you delve deeper into balancing, you begin to set an intention to use your mind/body/spirit complex in each of its individual parts to help you balance. I'd further speculate that the body cannot help you process catalyst if it's bogged down with toxins and pollutants, and thus the intention to use the body as an aid in balancing begins to accelerate the bodily process of cleansing itself of those toxins so it can be of use. For me, I notice that the poorer I eat, I decrease my own sensitivity to my energy body - implying there is at least for me some sort of a connection between the physical body/energy body.

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    09-13-2013, 12:27 AM
    (09-12-2013, 04:56 PM)xise Wrote: I'd speculate that as you delve deeper into balancing, you begin to set an intention to use your mind/body/spirit complex in each of its individual parts to help you balance. I'd further speculate that the body cannot help you process catalyst if it's bogged down with toxins and pollutants, and thus the intention to use the body as an aid in balancing begins to accelerate the bodily process of cleansing itself of those toxins so it can be of use. For me, I notice that the poorer I eat, I decrease my own sensitivity to my energy body - implying there is at least for me some sort of a connection between the physical body/energy body.

    Moving further into the thought here, if you began doing practices that allowed you to sense your energy body you might become aware of discomfort that you might otherwise never notice.
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    09-13-2013, 06:18 AM
    (09-11-2013, 12:55 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: I've cleared some stuff the past week or two, and my new 'resting' state is not congruent with the mediocre diet I've had the past 6 months or so.

    Time to start upgrading. :p

    what changes are you going to make?

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    09-13-2013, 11:34 AM
    (09-12-2013, 12:58 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (09-12-2013, 12:33 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So crappy spiritual experiences could be from a crappy diet?

    That may be too linear as so many things are interconnected, but yes, I do think so. For example, I came across a book written by Madame Blavatsky many years ago, head of the Theosophical Society. The Theosophists, a group of spiritualists in the early 20th century claimed to see energies. They mentioned that drinking alcohol--even just wine--attracted dark energies or beings. They said they could see them for instance, gathered heavily in the corners of barrooms. When I read that, and along with the other very interesting observations in the book, I felt the truth of it. Perhaps it may have been only true for me, but I don't think so. Many philosophies talk about auras or energy bodies being damaged or muddy or having "holes" from ingesting substances, and also from emotional negativity or imbalances, etc. If one must take a medication for example, if it were me, I would endeavor to counteract any ill affects by strengthening my body with supportive supplements perhaps, to assist the liver and build the immune system. It's similar to the idea of taking probiotics to replenish the flora after taking antibiotics. The central point, to me, is to optimize all I can, where I can. Smile
    I verify this with my own experience. I have a visual perception of energy as well, and I can clearly see when there is dark energy or entities in a field. However, I will not totally agree that without exception these things happen because I believe it depends highly on the consciousness and crystallization of the individual. It is true in most cases that these kinds of substance can open holes, but there are individuals with enough awareness to counteract if so desired.

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    09-13-2013, 12:13 PM
    Crappy spiritual experiences are defined by how you define crappy.

    If you've lived your entire existence ina realm of "unending buuty" just playing the harm and having a good time, you may truly enjoy and have a absolutely glorious spiritual experience to be found in the dank alleys down with a very dank beer and an even danker set of potatos and ham. Even though you know its not exactly unending buuty and harps.

    But that aside, if you want to find the good nutrition for you, find the good harmonic balance for you and the choice of nutrition will be obvious.

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    09-13-2013, 12:50 PM
    (09-13-2013, 11:34 AM)Tanner Wrote:
    (09-12-2013, 12:58 PM)Diana Wrote: They mentioned that drinking alcohol--even just wine--attracted dark energies or beings.
    I verify this with my own experience. I have a visual perception of energy as well, and I can clearly see when there is dark energy or entities in a field. However, I will not totally agree that without exception these things happen because I believe it depends highly on the consciousness and crystallization of the individual. It is true in most cases that these kinds of substance can open holes, but there are individuals with enough awareness to counteract if so desired.

    This makes sense. But I will guess that individuals such as these will also have no desire for such substances, so it becomes moot. I will guess they have evolved to the point of not desiring anything but life-sustaining fuel (energy). Although, between "here" and "there" there would be increments of development. Even so, though I do not think denial in any form is efficacious, I do think a natural progression away from lower forms of substances toward light-based sustenance is recommended.

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    Aha I agree, although there is a part of me that considers there to be no differences between the light in different substances once the techniques of transmutation are well understood within the self. Some beings could drink plenty of alchohol and actually gain spiritually positive effects, but of course, such individuals are few and far in between.

    True, there would probably be no "desire" or hunger for that experience, but a being enjoying loving communion with all the aspects of the Creator would probably engage and enjoy it, especially if it was seen to be of service to other self to share that experience with them. They will thus not desire nor reject it, but simply experience it as it naturally arises, the 'value' of intoxication being seen as no less than sobriety.

    Indeed, I believe that through meditation and spiritual highs we achieve a kind of intoxication of the divine.

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    09-13-2013, 01:38 PM
    (09-13-2013, 12:56 PM)Tanner Wrote: Aha I agree, although there is a part of me that considers there to be no differences between the light in different substances once the techniques of transmutation are well understood within the self. Some beings could drink plenty of alchohol and actually gain spiritually positive effects, but of course, such individuals are few and far in between.

    BigSmile Like the mother superiors in Dune, transmuting the poison.

    (09-13-2013, 12:56 PM)Tanner Wrote: True, there would probably be no "desire" or hunger for that experience, but a being enjoying loving communion with all the aspects of the Creator would probably engage and enjoy it, especially if it was seen to be of service to other self to share that experience with them. They will thus not desire nor reject it, but simply experience it as it naturally arises, the 'value' of intoxication being seen as no less than sobriety.

    I understand and have employed this concept--I do it all the time actually with certain things. For instance, I can go to a church and immerse in the joy there with the members (although I have no religious leanings and abhor the dogma). I can talk to people about things such as TV football, of which I know absolutely nothing, but I can immerse with the others' joy and excitement. It's one of the reasons I was so successful early on in my illustration business.

    What I can't do, however, is indulge in things which derive from harm (that I am aware of). I won't partake of cruelty to animals for instance. For example, I was in Bolivia some years ago visiting friends. The husband's brother owned a large "ranch" where he raised fighting cocks. He wanted to show us the roosters and their spurs but I could not immerse with that, asking to please not see it. But when he insisted because x, y, z, I simply excused myself. Later that day, as a funny aside, there was a big barbecue. It was all meat (that country is very meat-oriented except for the indigenous people), and when they were told we (my boyfriend and I) were vegetarians, it began a comical exchange that still makes me laugh: We are vegatarianos; no carne?; no meat at all; no puerco?; no, no meat at all; no POLLO!!!???; correct; Okay how about huevos; no, no huevos; NO HUEVOS!!!!! . . . the no huevos (eggs) part really threw them for a loop and they looked as though they thought we we insane! But they were very nice to us regardless.

    They had one very good tuber they served at the barbecue that I don't remember the name of, which we thankfully ate. But we only got one each and we were starving by the time we left! It was a beautiful experience though, with a huge extended family that included an older mentally challenged member who had always been part of the family and taken care of at home.

    (09-13-2013, 12:56 PM)Tanner Wrote: Indeed, I believe that through meditation and spiritual highs we achieve a kind of intoxication of the divine.

    Yes, I agree. Smile

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    Yes I agree that somethings are just not in my interest to interact with, especially in the light of the finitude of the incarnative life experience. I consider each experience I have to be a new ingredient in a vast formula. That sounds like an interesting and pleasant experience, besides the hunger aha I find I am versatile with my eating habits, I can either go for meat or completely without.

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