Knowledge by the questioner in LOO

[East Sun]

In order to get info. from Ra the questioner obviously knew a lot so as to be able to ask the right questions. Not always right but very knowledgeable.
I am wondering how he knew so much right from the start of Book 1.
And why would Ra not just give info. unless asked specifically about each thing.
Example:
Q. Can you give me info. on that?
Ra. I can.
Q. Please do.
Ra. (answers)

My guess is that Ra did not want to infringe on Questioner's free will.

Edgar Cayce gave info. freely at length when asked a question.

[Peregrinus]

A basic introductory... I'm sure you would have to speak to someone who knew Don, or read the book "Secrets Of The UFO" to get further insight. Carla still speaks fondly of Don, but I can't quote. As I remember hearing/reading, there were many times the questions came off the top of Don's head, as it were, because he didn't have any idea what he was going to ask next. That is why there were/are parts that seem out of place and not in succession. One question/answer might lead to the next. I personally feel he was brilliant in asking the questions he did and in the insight he used.



Don Elkins was born in Louisville, Kentucky in 1930. He held a B.S. and M.S. in Mechanical Engineering as well as a general engineering M.S. from Speed Scientific School, and a PhD in philosophy from an English university, and was Professor of Physics and Engineering at the University of Louisville for twelve years, and founder and head of the University of Alaska’s mechanical engineering department in 1960-61. He served with distinction in the U.S. Army during the Korean War. In 1965 he left his position as tenured professor in order to give himself more time for the UFO and paranormal research, and became a Boeing 727 pilot, eventually Captain, for a major airline until his death in 1984.

Don began the work of L/L Research solo in 1955 using age regression hypnosis to research reincarnation. He talked with and visited UFO contactees all over the United States, often piloting his own small plane, and investigated the many areas of paranormal study into which UFOs led him through the years, corresponding with and visiting a wide variety of scholars and researchers as well as experiencers, abductees and many others defying categorization throughout his very active career as a researcher. In 1962, Don began an experiment in channeling using material he had found from a contactee group in Detroit, MI, that was publishing a channeling series entitled Man, Consciousness and Understanding, on starting a “UFO contactee group” without needing actual contact from a physical UFO. This experiment continues in an unbroken line today as a weekly meditation and study group, where LLR works with meditation and collecting non-trance telepathic channeling from allegedly extraterrestrial sources. Don published some of his UFO research in the book Secrets Of The UFO. The Law of One books contain our group’s collected sessions with those of Ra, and represent the best of the L/L Research channeling in terms of level of contact, and the bulk of what Don considered his own life’s work.

At the time of his death Don Elkins was deep into the study of the Ra Material, a lengthy and complex series of channeled teachings that had begun in January 1981, and which he had been researching with Carla Rueckert and James McCarty. There are reports of negative psychological interferences having developed during this latter investigation.

[Questioner]

East Sun, you might find this previous thread useful: http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=578 which explains why I hope to honor Don's memory and life's work with my user name here.

The short answers are both physical and metaphysical. Physically, Don Elkins was one of the earliest and most comprehensive researchers of UFO's, psychic phenomena and channeling. He had been studying these subjects, gathering information and drawing tentative conclusions, for literally decades before the first encounter with Ra. He may well have been the best prepared person on the planet for that conversation. "Secrets of the UFO" goes into this history in depth.

Metaphysically, Ra confirmed that Don, Carla, and Jim, were "wanderers" who had chosen to incarnate at this time to help bring forth this spiritual information to humanity. Much of the Ra information was foreshadowed in the Esmerelda book of a decade before, which Ra described as coming through an essentially channeled form of storytelling except for the conclusion. I discussed that some here: http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=858

There may be other threads on this topic, I just happen to be familiar with these two because I started 'em.

Ra explained that the unintended consequences of providing unasked-for information was of great concern in previous encounters with humanity. Therefore, Ra's policy was to only answer specific questions. Even then, Ra would answer only to the extent that the answers would not violate free will opportunities of choices and discoveries.

Ra sometimes did answer at extended length, carrying a concept across multiple sessions if needed.

I think of the "could you please answer... will you please answer now" incidents in two ways. One is to think of a noisy intercom in which people are exceptionally careful to speak with clarity. As a pilot, Don would have been very familiar with this kind of communication. Ra did indicate that the contact was "narrow band" and somewhat fragile. The other way I think of this is that it shows great courtesy on both side. Kind of like two people holding the door for each other, saying, "Oh no, please, after you!"

[East Sun]

A basic introductory... I'm sure you would have to speak to someone who knew Don, or read the book "Secrets Of The UFO" to get further insight. Carla still speaks fondly of Don, but I can't quote. As I remember hearing/reading, there were many times the questions came off the top of Don's head, as it were, because he didn't have any idea what he was going to ask next. That is why there were/are parts that seem out of place and not in succession. One question/answer might lead to the next. I personally feel he was brilliant in asking the questions he did and in the insight he used.



Don Elkins was born in Louisville, Kentucky in 1930. He held a B.S. and M.S. in Mechanical Engineering as well as a general engineering M.S. from Speed Scientific School, and a PhD in philosophy from an English university, and was Professor of Physics and Engineering at the University of Louisville for twelve years, and founder and head of the University of Alaska’s mechanical engineering department in 1960-61. He served with distinction in the U.S. Army during the Korean War. In 1965 he left his position as tenured professor in order to give himself more time for the UFO and paranormal research, and became a Boeing 727 pilot, eventually Captain, for a major airline until his death in 1984.

Don began the work of L/L Research solo in 1955 using age regression hypnosis to research reincarnation. He talked with and visited UFO contactees all over the United States, often piloting his own small plane, and investigated the many areas of paranormal study into which UFOs led him through the years, corresponding with and visiting a wide variety of scholars and researchers as well as experiencers, abductees and many others defying categorization throughout his very active career as a researcher. In 1962, Don began an experiment in channeling using material he had found from a contactee group in Detroit, MI, that was publishing a channeling series entitled Man, Consciousness and Understanding, on starting a “UFO contactee group” without needing actual contact from a physical UFO. This experiment continues in an unbroken line today as a weekly meditation and study group, where LLR works with meditation and collecting non-trance telepathic channeling from allegedly extraterrestrial sources. Don published some of his UFO research in the book Secrets Of The UFO. The Law of One books contain our group’s collected sessions with those of Ra, and represent the best of the L/L Research channeling in terms of level of contact, and the bulk of what Don considered his own life’s work.

At the time of his death Don Elkins was deep into the study of the Ra Material, a lengthy and complex series of channeled teachings that had begun in January 1981, and which he had been researching with Carla Rueckert and James McCarty. There are reports of negative psychological interferences having developed during this latter investigation.

Thank you kindly for your honest and informative answer. I'm searching in many directions at the same time and ask questions even though I have doubts about certain things mostly because I do not know the history of the people concerned. Because Ra's terminology was so different from the norm I wondered how anyone would know what to ask in certain circumstances.

[Questioner]

Be sure to visit the "About us" link at the top of the page here. That's your best place to start. I'm sorry I didn't suggest that first. Please check that out before the other links I mentioned.

[East Sun]

Be sure to visit the "About us" link at the top of the page here. That's your best place to start. I'm sorry I didn't suggest that first. Please check that out before the other links I mentioned.

Thank you, Questioner, for that info. It all makes sense when I read about Don's history. There is so much to learn on these 'connected' forums.
Is it possible to hear the Ra w/ Carla recordings?

[Questioner]

Not yet. The L/L Research team has a project underway to clean up the audio - since some of it's noisy, distorted etc. - and then offer the audio sessions for sale. That would in turn help fund this free site.

Last update was that they were still exploring technical techniques to clean up the audio. They also hadn't defined the business model yet, whether to work their way through chronologically or ask for "greatest hits" suggestions and do those sessions first. Since the archive is so huge they have a lot of work ahead of them.

For those who have heard the audio (I haven't), opinions are mixed about whether or not you gain more than just reading the transcripts. Of course it would be interesting to learn the material at the same pace that Don and Jim did. And the audio could be taken along on a commute or jog, etc.

I'm not involved in the project myself, just summarizing for you. If you have suggestions about that, you could jump into the audio sessions thread or ask one of the moderators.

Look in your private message box for some more details that are too long to post here.