Osiris Orion Connection

[Raukura Waihaha]

I've been thinking about Osiris and that he has connections with Orion.
It seems to me that the idea of sky God's ruling as deities is the elite philosophy that led to the Holy War.
I feel Osiris was the Yahweh who made sexual contact. I feel like Set killing and usurping the throne is synonymous with Ares trapping Zeus in the Underworld and then killing all other Gods.
The same God who showed up as fire to Abraham.
I can't remember if Ra mentions where Yahweh originated. I know they had involvement with Mars but is it possible that they are the Orion group and Ra was purposely vague?
I was wondering if anyone can help me find a little more clarity.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

I've been thinking about Osiris and that he has connections with Orion.
It seems to me that the idea of sky God's ruling as deities is the elite philosophy that led to the Holy War.
I feel Osiris was the Yahweh who made sexual contact. I feel like Set killing and usurping the throne is synonymous with Ares trapping Zeus in the Underworld and then killing all other Gods.
The same God who showed up as fire to Abraham.
I can't remember if Ra mentions where Yahweh originated. I know they had involvement with Mars but is it possible that they are the Orion group and Ra was purposely vague?
I was wondering if anyone can help me find a little more clarity.

18.23 Questioner: Well, was Yahweh then of the Confederation?

Ra: I am Ra. Yahweh was of the Confederation but was mistaken in its attempts to aid

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Osiris could be closer linked to an explanation as to how to explain a process of life than a real entity although the Egyptians saw him as an entity much the way we see God as an entity rather Superconsciousness.
I could be incorrect too that I do not doubt regarding Osiris. Perhaps there are demi-gods that control certain processes much like the Planets do in this particular Logos?
Yahweh was a Confederation entity and not a "federation" entity. The entity lives on to this day as all do after transformation by way of death of the body complex, but does not use that name any longer. Yahweh tried to help like many others had in the past but managed to make things worse like so many others have. Not because they weren't of assistance, but because we have entities that are here now and were here then from Mars and Maldek that had a proclivity toward war and selfishness. Even early earthlings became somewhat bent toward war once they developed a thumb and were able to fashion weapons. All unfortunate circumstances but have provided this planet with loads of catalyst thus aiding each of us and The Creator with more robust information concerning the self. All works out for the greater good as that is all there truly is; "good" and greatness.

[Sacred Fool]

 
Here's the Confederation's take on Osiris.


https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0419.aspx
 

L: I have several questions. First, I understand to some extent the significance of the entity Ra during our previous Egyptian culture. Is there any significance to the Egyptian god Osiris, or was Osiris primarily a creation of man at that time?

I am Latwii. This is a somewhat difficult question due to the fact that the answer is double in nature. The specific character Osiris is part of a system of belief in which there are many names for the same basic story. The name Osiris, then, is a type of thought-form. Further, the story itself has an extremely important meaning. If you will consider the various religions among your peoples—there are many crucified or dismembered entities which are then considered saviors or those which aid fertility of the earth. The understanding ranges from the crucifixion for the sake of the earth to that of sacrifice for the sake of the so-called soul. This general type of story you may see as the basic pattern of passion or intended love whereby the disharmonies and difficulties of existence are brought into a more helpful configuration due to the sacrificial act, whether it be intended or unintended of an entity, Osiris being one such entity. This, then, is another type of thought-form being, one which is quite integrated into the mass consciousness of your race and your planet. There is not an entity from the Confederation who was hacked to pieces and is now king of the underworld.

  

[Black Dragon]

Many good understandings from an archetypal level. Perhaps I can answer a bit from an astrological, symbological, and ET heritage standpoint. In the Egyptian mythos, astrologically, Osiris very literally corresponds to the constellation of Orion. Myths about Osiris seem to be a mix of astrological and astronomical stuff going on with the constellation, and historical events going on with its inhabitants. In the Law of One transcripts, there is mention of an Orion diaspora.

This is Osiris being split apart. It refers to the diaspora when the empire network broke down, and there was a diaspora of positive, negative, and mixed Orion races that went to other star systems. It is my understanding some came to Earth, or at least stopped by and acquired Earth genetics to use in seeding their new next generation civilizations elsewhere.

Orion's "sword" in the constellation actually is his "pork sword" aka the part of Osiris that remained missing even after Isis found the rest of his body. I believe Isis corresponds to Sirius somehow, and the penis is about diaspora/bloodlines/genetic seeding, that sort of thing. Not 100% sure what that means as a specific storyline, just the areas it might have to do with. Maybe if I dig a bit deeper, I can find out.

Set might represent the negative Orion crusaders, or maybe Heyl El/Lucifer. Not sure where Yahweh/YHSVH would fit into all of this. I have heard of a planetary experience that was part of the Orion conflict in the belt region called Hoovah, which other use to describe mars or Yahweh. Perhaps YHSVH is of Orion origin, but I think that they and the concept of this civilization "Hoovah" have persisted from Lyra originally, then into Orion's belt, I believe the star Alnitak, which is corelated to "El" and to Saturn, and then here into the Sol System as Mars.

There are connections between the concept of Merlin, and the concept of Yahweh. There is an idea that Merlin is the Orion Christ figure who changed the tide of the stalemate and lead to liberation of the majority of the constellation region and collapse of the old empire net, leading to the diaspora of both positive and negative Orions. Perhaps Merlin is one aspect of what you could call the council of nine even.

[Black Dragon]

As for Orion's belt, the star Alnitak corresponds to El which I believe is YHSVH, the star Alnilam(my SMC home star) to An(perhaps "Anunnaki"?), and Mintaka to Ra/Venus. What exactly the full nature of these relationships is, I'm not 100% sure. Also, as far as this statement and the above statement, they are my personal truth based on a mix of research/connecting the dots, intuition, and some downloads/insights/soul memories. As Confederation sources say, take what resonates and leave the rest.

[jafar]

I've been thinking about Osiris and that he has connections with Orion.
It seems to me that the idea of sky God's ruling as deities is the elite philosophy that led to the Holy War.

When one see the need to be 'superior' then there is a need for somebody else to be seen as 'inferior'.
When one see the need to be 'chosen' then there is a need for somebody else to be seen as 'unchosen'.

From Israelites "chosen people" to Nazi's "uber alles", it shows a common pattern.
Or the "Wanderer" seen as superior to "Starseed" or "Earth Natives" for that matter.

I can't remember if Ra mentions where Yahweh originated. I know they had involvement with Mars but is it possible that they are the Orion group and Ra was purposely vague?
I was wondering if anyone can help me find a little more clarity.

Better be careful with "name", as name can be used by literally anyone.
Yet look for the core pattern of characteristic / essence that identify a unit of consciousness as 'unique'.

Quo mentioned that there are two entities/identities using the name "Yahweh".
The "second" / "negative Yahweh" was indeed mentioned as "Orion based Yahweh" and he/they also give the reason why.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i..._0121.aspx

K: I understand you to say that there were two Yahwehs? The original who brought the entities from Mars to Earth and then a second entity using his vibration?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is correct with the second entity being of a negative orientation and. utilizing the name of the first as a means of gaining control of the entities to whom the first Yahweh had spoken. Is there a further query, my brother?

K: The second Yahweh then gave the Laws of Moses to the people as well as the curses that attended them?

I am Q'uo, and this is correct, my brother. Is there a further query?

K: Ra said that the first Yahweh gave the Law of One in a very simple form to Moses. Is this the saying, "I am that I am," or was this the Ten Commandments, or something else? What was this exactly that he was talking about?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The entity, Yahweh, from the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, was one who spoke with those entities from the Mars influence in a manner that reflected the unity of all creation and the attempt to be of service to others. Through this speaking and intermingling, shall we say, the attempt was formed or fashioned in a way or in a philosophy that attempted to weave all experience, desires, and expenditures of energy as portions of one great tapestry of energy, love and unity. All communications were based upon this simple recognition of the unified nature of all creation. It was the foundation upon which the interrelationship was built. Is there a further query?

K: The Ten Commandments were given by the second, negative Yahweh? Is that correct?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is basically correct, for these commandments were seen as the pillars upon which would rest the many laws that would protect and guide the chosen people in a manner that was in accordance with the desires of the Orion-based Yahweh. These commandments included previous concepts given by the first Yahweh contact and then there was added unto those concepts a turning or twisting toward the negative orientation so that the commandments were, shall we say, then restrictions upon entities more than inspiration to affirmative or positive action and imaging of concepts. Is there a further query, my brother?

[Black Dragon]

Yes, there is the connection of the impostor Yahweh. We already know that to be the work of Orion crusader/pirates as described in the material. Still does not preclude the possibility that the real, positive Yahweh could have some ties to a planet in Orion's belt. In fact that would make sense, as the main force that tried to counter the negative agenda, for the real Yahweh to possibly have history with the negative impostors that goes back to Orion.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Many good understandings from an archetypal level. Perhaps I can answer a bit from an astrological, symbological, and ET heritage standpoint. In the Egyptian mythos, astrologically, Osiris very literally corresponds to the constellation of Orion. Myths about Osiris seem to be a mix of astrological and astronomical stuff going on with the constellation, and historical events going on with its inhabitants. In the Law of One transcripts, there is mention of an Orion diaspora.

This is Osiris being split apart. It refers to the diaspora when the empire network broke down, and there was a diaspora of positive, negative, and mixed Orion races that went to other star systems. It is my understanding some came to Earth, or at least stopped by and acquired Earth genetics to use in seeding their new next generation civilizations elsewhere.

Orion's "sword" in the constellation actually is his "pork sword" aka the part of Osiris that remained missing even after Isis found the rest of his body. I believe Isis corresponds to Sirius somehow, and the penis is about diaspora/bloodlines/genetic seeding, that sort of thing. Not 100% sure what that means as a specific storyline, just the areas it might have to do with. Maybe if I dig a bit deeper, I can find out.

Set might represent the negative Orion crusaders, or maybe Heyl El/Lucifer. Not sure where Yahweh/YHSVH would fit into all of this. I have heard of a planetary experience that was part of the Orion conflict in the belt region called Hoovah, which other use to describe mars or Yahweh. Perhaps YHSVH is of Orion origin, but I think that they and the concept of this civilization "Hoovah" have persisted from Lyra originally, then into Orion's belt, I believe the star Alnitak, which is corelated to "El" and to Saturn, and then here into the Sol System as Mars.

There are connections between the concept of Merlin, and the concept of Yahweh. There is an idea that Merlin is the Orion Christ figure who changed the tide of the stalemate and lead to liberation of the majority of the constellation region and collapse of the old empire net, leading to the diaspora of both positive and negative Orions. Perhaps Merlin is one aspect of what you could call the council of nine even.

Interesting!!!
I only have one addition to what you have said here, if I may.
YHVH=Jehovah=Yod Heh Vav Heh
YHSVH= Jehoshuah= Yod Heh Shin Vav Heh
Two different characters so to speak; one being of magical nature
Loved your research/knowledge! Awesome read!

[dreamoftheiris]

According to Manly P. Hall in his book "The Secret Teaching of all Ages",

"Osiris represents the third, or material, aspect of solar activity, which by its beneficent influences vitalizes and enlivens the flora and fauna of the earth. Osiris is not the sun, but the sun is symbolic of the vital principle of Nature, which the ancients knew as Osiris. His symbol, therefore, was an opened eye, in honor of the Great Eye of the universe, the sun. Opposed to the active radiant principle of impregnating fire, heat and motion was the passive receptive principle of Nature. [Isis]"

He goes on to describe an ancient Egyptian myth of Osiris defeating Typhon,

"Typhon, the Egyptian Demon or Spirit of the Adversary, was born upon the third day. Typhon is often symbolized by a crocodile; sometimes his body is a combination of crocodile and hog. Isis stands for knowledge and wisdom, and according to Plutarch the word Typhon means insolence and pride. Egotism, self-centeredness, and pride are the deadly enemies of understanding and truth. This part of the allegory is revealed. After Osiris, here symbolized as the sun, had become King of Egypt and had given to his people the full advantage of his intellectual light, he continued his path through the heavens, visiting the peoples of other nations and converting all with whom he came in contact."

Osiris appears to be the same archetype as Jesus is in the west. Isis is the Virgin Mary.

[flofrog]

Osiris appears to be the same archetype as Jesus is in the west.  Isis is the Virgin Mary.

Greetings dreamoftheiris,

Did you by chance have time to listen to podcast 99, you might find it interesting with the the references to the Manuscript of the Magdalene.

[dreamoftheiris]

Osiris appears to be the same archetype as Jesus is in the west.  Isis is the Virgin Mary.

Greetings dreamoftheiris,

Did you by chance have time to listen to podcast 99, you might find it interesting with the the references to the Manuscript of the Magdalene.  

No I haven't listened to that episode. I will check it out!

[Raukura Waihaha]

Many good understandings from an archetypal level. Perhaps I can answer a bit from an astrological, symbological, and ET heritage standpoint. In the Egyptian mythos, astrologically, Osiris very literally corresponds to the constellation of Orion. Myths about Osiris seem to be a mix of astrological and astronomical stuff going on with the constellation, and historical events going on with its inhabitants. In the Law of One transcripts, there is mention of an Orion diaspora.

This is Osiris being split apart. It refers to the diaspora when the empire network broke down, and there was a diaspora of positive, negative, and mixed Orion races that went to other star systems. It is my understanding some came to Earth, or at least stopped by and acquired Earth genetics to use in seeding their new next generation civilizations elsewhere.

Orion's "sword" in the constellation actually is his "pork sword" aka the part of Osiris that remained missing even after Isis found the rest of his body. I believe Isis corresponds to Sirius somehow, and the penis is about diaspora/bloodlines/genetic seeding, that sort of thing. Not 100% sure what that means as a specific storyline, just the areas it might have to do with. Maybe if I dig a bit deeper, I can find out.

Set might represent the negative Orion crusaders, or maybe Heyl El/Lucifer. Not sure where Yahweh/YHSVH would fit into all of this. I have heard of a planetary experience that was part of the Orion conflict in the belt region called Hoovah, which other use to describe mars or Yahweh. Perhaps YHSVH is of Orion origin, but I think that they and the concept of this civilization "Hoovah" have persisted from Lyra originally, then into Orion's belt, I believe the star Alnitak, which is corelated to "El" and to Saturn, and then here into the Sol System as Mars.

There are connections between the concept of Merlin, and the concept of Yahweh. There is an idea that Merlin is the Orion Christ figure who changed the tide of the stalemate and lead to liberation of the majority of the constellation region and collapse of the old empire net, leading to the diaspora of both positive and negative Orions. Perhaps Merlin is one aspect of what you could call the council of nine even.

This is exactly where I was going with this, plus extra. Thanks.
It feels like it has to do with the usurper and I always felt that somehow they were all from the same place, perhaps even Ra.
I feel a lot of people assume that because Ra speaks of a group whose strongest contingent is located in Orion, anything associated with it, is inherently STS.
I feel that this is a MASSIVE assumption and the cause of an unbalanced aversion, based on one group's choices.
It seems to me that Isis was from Sirius and is perhaps of the same genetic stock as Osiris, which could be the metaphor of him hooking up with his sister.
This could be the sexual connection that created larger bodies and I feel it could perhaps be a Nephilim based religion that was the inception which afforded negative Orion crusaders the opportunity to create the "soul that needs saving" and "fake Yahweh" narratives.

[Patrick]

Personally I would not asses the polarity of entities based on their name or where they came from. The negatives are simply recognized by their fruits.

[flofrog]

Fruits of the Loom, Patrick ?

[Patrick]

Fruits of the Loom, Patrick ?

Exactly, as long as you wear another brand you're a good positive person.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Fruits of the Loom,  Patrick ?

:-/ :-/ Flo...

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Fruits of the Loom,  Patrick ?

Exactly, as long as you wear another brand you're a good positive person.

:-/ Patrick
Most excellent. Thank you for your wisdom Brother.
"tidy whities"= pure positivity

[Patrick]

Funnily enough, the brand I wear is Everlast... yep infinite like us.

[Jocie]

K: I understand you to say that there were two Yahwehs? The original who brought the entities from Mars to Earth and then a second entity using his vibration?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is correct with the second entity being of a negative orientation and. utilizing the name of the first as a means of gaining control of the entities to whom the first Yahweh had spoken. Is there a further query, my brother?

K: The second Yahweh then gave the Laws of Moses to the people as well as the curses that attended them?

I am Q'uo, and this is correct, my brother. Is there a further query?

K: Ra said that the first Yahweh gave the Law of One in a very simple form to Moses. Is this the saying, "I am that I am," or was this the Ten Commandments, or something else? What was this exactly that he was talking about?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The entity, Yahweh, from the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, was one who spoke with those entities from the Mars influence in a manner that reflected the unity of all creation and the attempt to be of service to others. Through this speaking and intermingling, shall we say, the attempt was formed or fashioned in a way or in a philosophy that attempted to weave all experience, desires, and expenditures of energy as portions of one great tapestry of energy, love and unity. All communications were based upon this simple recognition of the unified nature of all creation. It was the foundation upon which the interrelationship was built. Is there a further query?

K: The Ten Commandments were given by the second, negative Yahweh? Is that correct?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is basically correct, for these commandments were seen as the pillars upon which would rest the many laws that would protect and guide the chosen people in a manner that was in accordance with the desires of the Orion-based Yahweh. These commandments included previous concepts given by the first Yahweh contact and then there was added unto those concepts a turning or twisting toward the negative orientation so that the commandments were, shall we say, then restrictions upon entities more than inspiration to affirmative or positive action and imaging of concepts. Is there a further query, my brother?

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K: I understand you to say that there were two Yahwehs? The original who brought the entities from Mars to Earth and then a second entity using his vibration?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is correct with the second entity being of a negative orientation and. utilizing the name of the first as a means of gaining control of the entities to whom the first Yahweh had spoken. Is there a further query, my brother?

K: The second Yahweh then gave the Laws of Moses to the people as well as the curses that attended them?

I am Q'uo, and this is correct, my brother. Is there a further query?

K: Ra said that the first Yahweh gave the Law of One in a very simple form to Moses. Is this the saying, "I am that I am," or was this the Ten Commandments, or something else? What was this exactly that he was talking about?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The entity, Yahweh, from the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, was one who spoke with those entities from the Mars influence in a manner that reflected the unity of all creation and the attempt to be of service to others. Through this speaking and intermingling, shall we say, the attempt was formed or fashioned in a way or in a philosophy that attempted to weave all experience, desires, and expenditures of energy as portions of one great tapestry of energy, love and unity. All communications were based upon this simple recognition of the unified nature of all creation. It was the foundation upon which the interrelationship was built. Is there a further query?

K: The Ten Commandments were given by the second, negative Yahweh? Is that correct?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is basically correct, for these commandments were seen as the pillars upon which would rest the many laws that would protect and guide the chosen people in a manner that was in accordance with the desires of the Orion-based Yahweh. These commandments included previous concepts given by the first Yahweh contact and then there was added unto those concepts a turning or twisting toward the negative orientation so that the commandments were, shall we say, then restrictions upon entities more than inspiration to affirmative or positive action and imaging of concepts. Is there a further query, my brother?

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K: I understand you to say that there were two Yahwehs? The original who brought the entities from Mars to Earth and then a second entity using his vibration?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is correct with the second entity being of a negative orientation and. utilizing the name of the first as a means of gaining control of the entities to whom the first Yahweh had spoken. Is there a further query, my brother?

K: The second Yahweh then gave the Laws of Moses to the people as well as the curses that attended them?

I am Q'uo, and this is correct, my brother. Is there a further query?

K: Ra said that the first Yahweh gave the Law of One in a very simple form to Moses. Is this the saying, "I am that I am," or was this the Ten Commandments, or something else? What was this exactly that he was talking about?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The entity, Yahweh, from the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, was one who spoke with those entities from the Mars influence in a manner that reflected the unity of all creation and the attempt to be of service to others. Through this speaking and intermingling, shall we say, the attempt was formed or fashioned in a way or in a philosophy that attempted to weave all experience, desires, and expenditures of energy as portions of one great tapestry of energy, love and unity. All communications were based upon this simple recognition of the unified nature of all creation. It was the foundation upon which the interrelationship was built. Is there a further query?

K: The Ten Commandments were given by the second, negative Yahweh? Is that correct?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is basically correct, for these commandments were seen as the pillars upon which would rest the many laws that would protect and guide the chosen people in a manner that was in accordance with the desires of the Orion-based Yahweh. These commandments included previous concepts given by the first Yahweh contact and then there was added unto those concepts a turning or twisting toward the negative orientation so that the commandments were, shall we say, then restrictions upon entities more than inspiration to affirmative or positive action and imaging of concepts. Is there a further query, my brother?

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K: I understand you to say that there were two Yahwehs? The original who brought the entities from Mars to Earth and then a second entity using his vibration?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is correct with the second entity being of a negative orientation and. utilizing the name of the first as a means of gaining control of the entities to whom the first Yahweh had spoken. Is there a further query, my brother?

K: The second Yahweh then gave the Laws of Moses to the people as well as the curses that attended them?

I am Q'uo, and this is correct, my brother. Is there a further query?

K: Ra said that the first Yahweh gave the Law of One in a very simple form to Moses. Is this the saying, "I am that I am," or was this the Ten Commandments, or something else? What was this exactly that he was talking about?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The entity, Yahweh, from the Confederation of Planets in Service to the Infinite Creator, was one who spoke with those entities from the Mars influence in a manner that reflected the unity of all creation and the attempt to be of service to others. Through this speaking and intermingling, shall we say, the attempt was formed or fashioned in a way or in a philosophy that attempted to weave all experience, desires, and expenditures of energy as portions of one great tapestry of energy, love and unity. All communications were based upon this simple recognition of the unified nature of all creation. It was the foundation upon which the interrelationship was built. Is there a further query?

K: The Ten Commandments were given by the second, negative Yahweh? Is that correct?

I am Q'uo and am aware of your query, my brother. This is basically correct, for these commandments were seen as the pillars upon which would rest the many laws that would protect and guide the chosen people in a manner that was in accordance with the desires of the Orion-based Yahweh. These commandments included previous concepts given by the first Yahweh contact and then there was added unto those concepts a turning or twisting toward the negative orientation so that the commandments were, shall we say, then restrictions upon entities more than inspiration to affirmative or positive action and imaging of concepts. Is there a further query, my brother?

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[Quincunx]

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[jafar]

Negative entities claimed any "identity" that they wanted to share and spread their "negative catalyst" effectively.
We even have a record where Jesus allegedly said:
"No one comes to the Father except through me."

A claim of "Exclusive Brokerage" which is manipulative thus inherently negative orientation.

Thus the key take away is not to 'believe' a concept or message based solely on the claimed identity of those who said it nor the source where it was claimed to be originated.

It could be that those who authored "Ten Negative Commandments" and "Exclusive Brokerage" statement above are the same entity. Or at least within the same "orientation".

Found an interesting video on "Archangel Michael"'s view on Violence - Sacrifice, Heaven & Hell, Religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn2VOC3pQQw

[Loki]

Ra mentions that Yahweh loses his name but not before managing to bring Mars people to Earth and fitting them with brand new bodies different from the locals. He loses his name because his name was hijacked by a negative entity who give Mars people from Earth the elitist philosophy. It is classic STS strategy to give someone a similar but slightly changed philosophy presenting a service to self (to your minority) as Service to Others (to all others).

For a detailed explanation of Yahweh see the channelling session from October 3 2004:

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2004/1003