Reconciling Ra and 9th Dimensional Pleiadian Collective

[curio_city]

I started a free trial to Gaia, and came across several references to a "9th Dimensional Pleiadian Collective."

I have found the Ra material to be profound and to be expressed so eloquently and carefully, and I don't get the same sense when it comes to what I have seen so far on Gaia.

Is anyone aware of any congruence between this Pleiadian perspective and Ra's? For starters, what would a 9th dimensional entity be in LOO terms, if anything?

[Aion]

The way I understand it, why you see all sorts of different numbers of dimensions from different people and different systems is that an octave can actually be divided in more than one way.

The logic I look to in comprehending this is actually musical.

In Music there are Octaves and in the Equal Temperament Tuning this Octave is divided in to 12 equal "zones". Thus, each zone has roughly the same frequency bandwidth.
However, this is only one way of dividing the Octave up. You can divide the Octave technically in to any number of zones, yet it is still a continuous spectrum.

I think the same is true for "densities" and "dimensions", so when you see "9/12/14/17/etc Dimension" structures they are different ways of subdividing the Octave.

However, I don't think these systems are corresponding. They are actually different formulations of the universe.

That being said, some people may consider 9th Dimension to be the Next Octave in the Ra System, so that is one way it could be looked at.

It depends what the "highest dimension" is in this system they're talking about.

[Dtris]

I could have sworn I read some stuff channeled from Pleiadian sources but cannot remember what.

No matter what the source you should use your own discernment, have a healthy skepticism, and work with what resonates with you. There are certain sources that have been very resonate with me, and others not so much. When something doesn't resonate, I treat it as an interesting intellectual aside and move along. Within the same work their can even be parts which resonate, and parts which are dissonant. Usually sources are neutral. A neutral source can be useful.

As near as I can tell in the Ra material the word dimension is used interchangeably with density early in the material, but by around session 30 has almost completely transitioned to a more nuanced usage of the word which is not quite the same as density.

This question is an example of what I mean
16.25 Questioner: How many inhabited planets are there in our galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. We are assuming that you intend all dimensions of consciousness or densities of awareness in this question. Approximately one-fifth of all planetary entities contain awareness of one or more densities. Some planetary spheres are hospitable only for certain densities. Your planetary sphere, for instance, is at this time hospitable to levels or densities one, two, three, and four.

Using Aion's description of using different structures for subdividing the Octave, we could have a 4th density being who can honestly say they are 9th dimensional, because they are 6 steps in discrete "tones" of consciousness away from us, if we are considered third.

In general I try to keep the Ra concept of densities separate from dimensions as to do otherwise becomes too confusing at this stage. Since we could say there are multiple dimensions to 3rd Density reality such as dreaming and awake, the dimensions accessible in meditation, the dimensions accessible in waking consciousness, I think this distinction is warranted. Which means it is generally not useful to try to translate one sources "level" into the terms of another one.

[Infinite]

For starters, what would a 9th dimensional entity be in LOO terms, if anything?

In my opinion, one of the greatest qualities of LOO is its internal consistency. Therefore, I particularly follow Ra's definitions of dimensions. That is, within a density there are infinite dimensions that vibrate at 7 basic levels (which represent the 7 rays). When someone speaks of the ninth, tenth dimension, it may be referring to one of the infinite levels of the third density or even to levels of other densities.

[Raukura Waihaha]

I'm not too sure about your question or if this relates but I'll share regardless.
I've seen a clear conduit channeling of Ra where they say there has been an update in their understanding and they now see that there are 22 densities.
They didn't elaborate but I thought about it n came to the following conclusion.
We have positive, negative and balance.
If you multiply those three options by the number of chakras which is 7, you get 21. Plus all as one is 22.

[Patrick]

...If you multiply those three options by the number of chakras which is 7, you get 21. Plus all as one is 22.

Often this is seen as archetypes 0 to 21 which gives 22 numbers.

[Raukura Waihaha]

It just occurred to me that there is a difference between a density and dimension.
There are densities that are our building blocks, so to speak.
Dimensions are the houses created.
Perhaps the 9th dimension is a 4th density manifestation of the Pleiadian group?

[Patrick]

If it's like comparing the 7 chakras system with the 12 chakras system.  The 12 just goes into more details.  Like the Heart chakra being divided between the inner and outer heart.  Maybe it is the same here, the 9 dimensions just having included some remarkable sub divisions of the basic underlying 7 densities.

[Aion]

Same octave, different divisions.

[mitote]

From my understanding of the Law of One every Logi chooses their own system, and ours (the sun) choose a system based on 7. There are an infinite number of different systems which could have wildly different foundations. With that said I have learned very little about the Pleiadean collective, so I cant speak to that example specifically. Infinity is certainly a lot to deal with and accept.