Can you love other selves but not like them?

[Jeremy]

I'm likely seeing my own displeasure mirrored back  which I accept since I'm still working on improving aspects of myself but I'm curious if anyone kinda feels the same way. I'm working on changing my perception from that of frustration or even anger to simply accepting that they are confused or liken it to the old christ saying, "forgive them father for they know not what they do". While doing so, I'm also attempting to see them more in the macrocosmic sense that I love them for being the infinite spirits that they are. Yet on a microcosmic level, I don't necessarily like them. Maybe it's my antisocial tendencies shining through, I don't know.

Yet when writing all of that, I still see the seperation that continues to pop up in every thread that I write here which, thinking back, has been the case even back when I frequented these boards years ago. It seems incredibly difficult to stay in the macrosmic perception that we are all one and all the Creator when I still know that we are also an individuated portion as well. After typing that, I get this indelible feeling that by seeing them as one, it almost feels like I'm making an excuse for them being how they are. It's as if the individual portion outweighs the collective "reality" of everyone. I'm sure this is just yet another aspect of returning and retuning myself due to so many wayward years but it's definitely something that I've always struggled with.

What brings me back is reminding myself that we all have the free will to choose how to live and how to love yet the constant reminder that we are all the Creator seems to consistently fall to the wayside. I guess I have the next topic for mediation lol

[Navaratna]

I remember a meme about if you just replaced the word god in the bible with flying spaghetti monster people would look at it as absurd as it is instead of thinking about how you couldn't criticize GOD. Telling a person you have no faith in their flying spaghetti monster would not turn in to some discussion anyone could with a straight face take seriously "DON'T SAY THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTERS NAME IN VAIN"

I think using the word love is kind of similar. How about you have a radiant, beneficial attitude towards all things living and non-living because you understand that is the good in your mental universe, and hating will never get rid of hatred. You have a positive intent. Forgiveness is important. You recognize that is higher than any other in a supreme way that goes beyond what most people would recognize it as. It's divine, it is what is right. Using love as the word has too many misconstrued connotations.

You don't have to necessarily -like- everyone.

Eventually I understood that no one is -obligated- to be friendly to you, just as much as you aren't to anyone. What kind of attitude is it for example.. to be frustrated that not everyone wants to be your best friend? Sounds extremely immature. I'd feel the same way about someone if someone expected me to feel that way toward absolutely everyone I came in to contact with.
After being disappointed in so many people it's what I boiled it down to..don't expect people to be perfect or perfectly the way you want them to.

It's the difference in thinking like an adult and someone living in their own sugary world. I think the Ra material is an attempt to make people perfect even though we can't really be but it will bring you closer toward the concept of it.

[AnthroHeart]

I think the Ra material is an attempt to make people perfect even though we can't really be but it will bring you closer toward the concept of it.

This really hit home. Thank you!

[Diana]

From my experience, the key is not to figure out how to love someone when you don't like them. When doing so, it is forcing an intellectual perspective.

The key, and the only key in my opinion, is evolution of self. Concentrate on what the self needs for expansion and growth, such as, taking responsibility in every facet of life. This includes the consideration of all other-selves but in a general way, not a specific one where a particular relationship is at issue, because the focus is on you and how you relate to all things. 

Specific relationships can be rife with triggers and history. The acceptance needed for such a relationship would be acceptance of self. Accept that you are where you are at, and try to use Ra's healing exercise of dealing with valid emotions such as anger, by letting yourself feel but waiting until you are alone to process the feelings so as not to hurt another.

A good exercise is to loosen opinions. Rigidity causes stasis, and the idea is to move forward. What I do is whenever I am triggered into an emotional response, I look at myself. This changes the scenario from one of being a victim or being offended to one of taking responsibility and being the observer. This doesn't necessarily erase the hurt felt from a circumstance or other person, but it puts into a more balanced perspective. One great intellectual exercise for this is to take the opposite side in a debate and argue for it, thereby getting self out of an entrenched view.

In addition, it's important to disengage from the media and spend time in nature—it discharges a lot of pent-up emotional confusion. I think it's also important to keep your space clear (whether it's a house, apartment or room). By that I mean keep it uncluttered and clean. All things are connected, and a cluttered space can clutter your thoughts. I like the quote from the bible that says to be an empty vessel. Take care of all the physical things you can, because that is the easiest, and this will affect your mental and emotional state. By getting and keeping your physical world in order, it affects the ordering of your mental and spiritual worlds. This is reflected in the ordering of the tarot archetypes according to Ra, wherein the mind, body, spirit cards are grouped, as well as the pairing of certain cards such as the matrix and the potentiator.

All of that said, it's like living in quicksand here, and it's so easy to get pulled down in. Having no attachment to outcome paradoxically connects one to all things, as it releases control and encourages acceptance. But this is tricky, because there must also be a directed will to be in balance. It's great to intellectualize as this is bringing knowledge and evolution into conscious awareness, but then there must also be action/implementation, not just lip service to evolution. A good example is someone who reads book after book on spirituality, but doesn't actually do the work. 

[Jeremy]

From my experience, the key is not to figure out how to love someone when you don't like them. When doing so, it is forcing an intellectual perspective.

The key, and the only key in my opinion, is evolution of self. Concentrate on what the self needs for expansion and growth, such as, taking responsibility in every facet of life. This includes the consideration of all other-selves but in a general way, not a specific one where a particular relationship is at issue, because the focus is on you and how you relate to all things. 

Specific relationships can be rife with triggers and history. The acceptance needed for such a relationship would be acceptance of self. Accept that you are where you are at, and try to use Ra's healing exercise of dealing with valid emotions such as anger, by letting yourself feel but waiting until you are alone to process the feelings so as not to hurt another.

A good exercise is to loosen opinions. Rigidity causes stasis, and the idea is to move forward. What I do is whenever I am triggered into an emotional response, I look at myself. This changes the scenario from one of being a victim or being offended to one of taking responsibility and being the observer. This doesn't necessarily erase the hurt felt from a circumstance or other person, but it puts into a more balanced perspective. One great intellectual exercise for this is to take the opposite side in a debate and argue for it, thereby getting self out of an entrenched view.

In addition, it's important to disengage from the media and spend time in nature—it discharges a lot of pent-up emotional confusion. I think it's also important to keep your space clear (whether it's a house, apartment or room). By that I mean keep it uncluttered and clean. All things are connected, and a cluttered space can clutter your thoughts. I like the quote from the bible that says to be an empty vessel. Take care of all the physical things you can, because that is the easiest, and this will affect your mental and emotional state. By getting and keeping your physical world in order, it affects the ordering of your mental and spiritual worlds. This is reflected in the ordering of the tarot archetypes according to Ra, wherein the mind, body, spirit cards are grouped, as well as the pairing of certain cards such as the matrix and the potentiator.

All of that said, it's like living in quicksand here, and it's so easy to get pulled down in. Having no attachment to outcome paradoxically connects one to all things, as it releases control and encourages acceptance. But this is tricky, because there must also be a directed will to be in balance. It's great to intellectualize as this is bringing knowledge and evolution into conscious awareness, but then there must also be action/implementation, not just lip service to evolution. A good example is someone who reads book after book on spirituality, but doesn't actually do the work. 

The last part is especially poignant and pertinent to me on a personal level. I've been great at assisting others in their questions yet for the most part, I've admittedly failed at "walking the walk". Something I came to admit a while back. I actually read an amazing transcript a few minutes ago on the channeling forum about wisdom and arrogance which is exactly what I've been doing. My wisdom has always overshadowed my heart and in some respects, given me at times, a holier than thou mentality towards those who are more emotionally open and free so that's yet another aspect that I seek to improve. Thanks for the helpful words

[Navaratna]

There's a simple way I think it can be shortened to

balancing the energy evenly between the logical and emotional aspects of the mind is ultimately the idea all these readings seem to suggest.

An entity full of love still needs intellect to be functional enough to elevate people.
A person full of intellect and no radiance is usually up in that place of their ego to bring benefit solely to themselves.

[Agua]

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[Navaratna]

"birthright to totally disconnect from that and act as a complete a******"

I agree with this
I'm not perfect I've been told many times I can sound arrogant my response in my head sometimes is.
Maybe I should work on being more humble but I reserve the right to be an arrogant person if I choose to be, lol

There's only so much authority people can have over each others behaviors and attitudes before society is just totalitarian. Being rude or a mean person overall aren't good things but we don't exile everyone in our society for being that way and it's unrealistic to think of trying to.

[Louisabell]

Is there even a choice though? You either like someone or not. If you just *will* yourself to not like someone you're creating separation from the Self.

I agree with Aqua though, with enough innerwork you see what this bias is really saying about yourself.

I think if you allow yourself to just like or dislike whoever, you'll find it easier to accept and love people despite of it.

[Sacred Fool]

 
I love---I mean---I like the titular query (wouldn't want to try to do both at the same time) because it goes right to the struggle with bi-dimensionality we're all heir to, and it makes it clear that love is not a superlative of like.  To wit, we like a person on one level (normal human, person-to-person level) and we truly love without condition on a different level (one which resonates, not merely with personal vibrations, but also with some amount of recognition of divine vibrations).

I'd say it's not too hard to love a person without liking them when they're at a at a safe distance.  But when they're in your face, then the two dimensions conflict, and we all know which one tends to speak more loudly.  The opportunity to work simultaneously with both these planes in the present moment, deliberately attempting to tune more deeply into the love plane, is a kind of a gift.  It allows you, peradventure, to solidify your own love vibration if you choose to rise to the occasion and vibrate yourself with more recognition of divinity.  It's likewise a gift one may offer to the planet every now and then.
 
 

[flofrog]

lol because I am of a slippery kind, if I encounter someone I don't really like, which is rare because I am sort of bland, I either think, this was me last incarnation, or this is me now or ok I shall address that in the me of next incarnation. Very slippery I am.

curiously Jeremy I have never felt in your posts any arrogance of the wisdom, nor didn't have the feeling that you did not walk that path when you advise.

[Jeremy]

lol  because I am of a slippery kind, if I encounter someone I don't really like, which is rare because I am sort of bland, I either think,  this was me last incarnation, or this is me now or ok I shall address that in the me of next incarnation.  Very slippery I am.

curiously Jeremy I have never felt in your posts any arrogance of the wisdom, nor didn't have the feeling that you did not walk that path when you advise.

The arrogance was referring more to every day life than on the forums though I did display it years ago while I was here shortly before I left. At times, I've noticed that I will think lesser of people that are stuck in the matrix so to speak. Those that sleepwalk through life instead of questioning it at every turn. It's one of the many things I'm working on changing yet again lol. The funny thing is that yesterday, I had this feeling of that I was starting over yet instead of being disappointed, it actually gave me quite the sense of excitement and peace

[Navaratna]

I think it's easier to question the way things are if you don't have a family.

If a happy family appears real to someone then why would someone want to think that they might just be hyperrealistic androids or whatever.

I think another part of the Matrix that I noticed..

The problem is choice they say.

The problem according to the Ra material is imbalance in vibrational energy densities distorting reality, as infinite, whole, as the Infinitely beating heart of the creator which is actually located in your physical heart. The 4th density green ray.

So you have a red pill or a blue pill
Let's go back to that scene. Red would mean your red ray density 1, 5 would be your throat chakra. Your ability to voice thoughts to your allies moving up through the densities. It's the whole point.

How about though you eat red and blue which makes purple...you need to take one you can't opt out.

It'd be your 7th density. Sahasrara the energy of consciousness inducted in to your mind.

Chakra 4 would be the density you'd reside in as balanced between 1 and 7 - 4 the middle

Infinitely beating heart of the One creator

[Dtris]

It is impossible to like everyone. It is not impossible to love everyone. Many people have family members who are examples of loving but not liking.

In general whether we like someone or not has more to do with personalities and shared experiences and beliefs. If we think of each person as having their own unique vibration or tone, then some other tones will produce harmony, and others dissonance.

I imagine the real important part is how you treat those who you dislike, and whether your actions are full of love or not.

Imagine the person you don't like comes to you for advice, how will you respond?