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    #1
    10-18-2015, 11:58 AM
    Does our current obsession (evidenced on social media) with dogs, cats, and some other animals mean that these creatures are currently moving into 3d consciousness?

    Please feel free to move this thread if it's in the wrong place.  I was unable to locate the "Meta" thread or the "Overview of Changes," as there were no obvious links.  It's one of those situations in which if you already know the answer you can find it.

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    10-18-2015, 12:18 PM
    I could see it with the insanely high amounts of love poured into many of them from a far.  

    Potentially in Time/space.  I'm unfamiliar with harvest mechanics for 2D But I think its billions of years long and greatly expediated by the 3D self aware presence.sort of 'shedding' onto them slowly accelerating them into selfawareness or quickly, depending on the purity/intensity of attention and the type of attention.  I mean, dogs understand.language.  cats recognize their names.  Pigs know their given names.  Dolphins (just dolphins...).  Monkeys are territorial and selfish.  Bugs know how to drop into targets (advanced spatial awareness) of their placement.  They are intelligent, just differently from us.

    We just help them become more evolved through positive interaction.

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    10-18-2015, 12:35 PM
    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: Please feel free to move this thread if it's in the wrong place. 

    it's been moved to "Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters', which is the new name for the former "Life on Planet Earth".   The naming gives it a stronger purpose and identity, and now more strongly contrasts it with Olio.  

    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: I was unable to locate the "Meta" thread or the "Overview of Changes," as there were no obvious links. 

    I think this link will tell you everything you need to know Smile

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    in regards to your OP, this passage comes to mind regards the harvestability of two cats:

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The entity, mind/body/spirit complex, Gandalf, being harvestable third density, is open to the same type of psychic attack to which you yourselves are vulnerable. Therefore, through the mechanism of images and dreams, it is potentially possible for negative concepts to be offered to this mind/body/spirit complex, thus having possible deleterious results.

    The entity, Fairchild, though harvestable through investment, does not have the vulnerability to attack in as great an amount due to a lack of the mind complex activity in the distortion of conscious devotion.

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    #4
    10-18-2015, 12:40 PM
    No, but they a very close and near certain to do so within a few "normal" human generations almost across all "pet" species.

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    10-18-2015, 01:05 PM
    (10-18-2015, 12:35 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The entity, mind/body/spirit complex, Gandalf, being harvestable third density, is open to the same type of psychic attack to which you yourselves are vulnerable. Therefore, through the mechanism of images and dreams, it is potentially possible for negative concepts to be offered to this mind/body/spirit complex, thus having possible deleterious results.

    The entity, Fairchild, though harvestable through investment, does not have the vulnerability to attack in as great an amount due to a lack of the mind complex activity in the distortion of conscious devotion.

    Implies that Animals can have conscious devotion, meaning animals are capable of complex prolonged 'thoughts' in order to 'be a certain way'.

    Animals are literally intelligent JUST like us in ways.

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    10-18-2015, 01:35 PM
    I know my words are controversial but I believe we have entities in 2d bodies that are 4d harvestable. There are many 'pets' capable of unconditional love, and to take it a step further, many who live their lives in selfless service to the one they are most devoted to. Even Buddhism teaches that an animal body can achieve "buddhahood". It's only natural that we would have more incarnating at the harvest threshhold all around. If humans are incarnating based on seniority of vibration, wouldn't it be easily presumed that animals/plants probably are, as well?
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    10-18-2015, 01:40 PM
    (10-18-2015, 01:35 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I know my words are controversial but I believe we have entities in 2d bodies that are 4d harvestable. There are many 'pets' capable of unconditional love, and to take it a step further, many who live their lives in selfless service to the one they are most devoted to. Even Buddhism teaches that an animal body can achieve "buddhahood". It's only natural that we would have more incarnating at the harvest threshhold all around. If humans are incarnating based on seniority of vibration, wouldn't it be easily presumed that animals/plants probably are, as well?

    Roughly speaking this is why I doubt they are yet 3rd because they are holding back due to a large number of them going to jump beyond 3rd and it being better when humans finally exit 3rd.

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    10-18-2015, 02:14 PM
    I mean, Human's can skip 4-6D and attain 'enlightenment' in the utter sense of transcending an entire Octave (an impressive feat at any point) by opening the Gateway and contacting Intelligent Infinity.  So I mean, why couldn't a 2D entity manage something similar?

    Though I don't know about jumping through a density, maybe they'll have a quickly performed 3D experience like many think 4D earth will be brief and quick before going into 5D.  Maybe 3D will be brief for them with 4D fast approaching.

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    10-18-2015, 02:41 PM
    I am not sure if cats and dogs are moving into 3rd density or not. I get the idea that most animals will be processing on the path of upward light towards self awareness. The house pet being those which are at the highest sub octave of 2nd density. It is likely that the more intensive contact with 3rd density beings will allow the 2nd density entity to move more quickly towards 3rd density.

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    10-19-2015, 01:30 AM
    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: Does our current obsession (evidenced on social media) with dogs, cats, and some other animals mean that these creatures are currently moving into 3d consciousness?

    Please feel free to move this thread if it's in the wrong place.  I was unable to locate the "Meta" thread or the "Overview of Changes," as there were no obvious links.  It's one of those situations in which if you already know the answer you can find it.

    Many pets have become 3rd density harvestable.  And it is perfectly possible for a 2nd density being to experience green ray energies, however, they won't be skipping any densities to my understanding.  Any being, in any density, may tap into the energies of the cosmos -- red through violet.  However, you will interpret those energies through the lens of what ever true color ray your consciousness identifies with.  So we 3rd densities see all the other energies through our yellow ray lens.

    It is their harvest too, they will walk the steps of light after bodily death and reincarnate in 3rd density bodies (likely on another planet).

    (10-18-2015, 02:14 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I mean, Human's can skip 4-6D and attain 'enlightenment' in the utter sense of transcending an entire Octave (an impressive feat at any point) by opening the Gateway and contacting Intelligent Infinity.  So I mean, why couldn't a 2D entity manage something similar?

    I actually am not entirely sure a human being can skip to the next octave of densities. There is one Ra quote that could be interpreted that way, but in recent times, I have started to doubt that interpretation as Ra often used the terms "octave" and "density" interchangeably. I do believe that one could pass through a density rather quickly were one sufficiently advanced, but as per another Ra quote: "no portion of the creator audits the course".

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    10-19-2015, 02:29 AM
    Aaron from the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues is such an entity I believe if my memory serves me properly. He's a 3D to 7D being who leaves 7D to come down to lower Densities to communicate on a individuated identity level.

    Apparently it takes very specific 'understanding' to suddenly just contact and transcend existence, not plausible or probable, but possible.

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    10-19-2015, 09:56 AM
    I always assumed the when an animal is able to exhibit characteristics that are not natural or native to the animal on command, then the animal has gain self awareness and is ready for 3d. For example any animal that can respond to you by name, has be individualized enough to be aware that it is a separated enitity with self awareness.

    I personally always viewed animals as sort of a biological robot, until investment from 3d entities or from intense experience in its animals life that gives it a spark of individuality. I believe this because without ample experience most animals will never act outside of their animal programming. For example wild animals can be thought of to have an instinctual robotic mind state. Meaning that a dog will never be more than a dog. a cat will never be more than a cat. a pig will never be more than a pig, unless some type of catalysts brings out its self-awareness or individuality. I think thats why some animals take on the personality of their owners. I believe its because your energy helped gave birth to their awareness so it only makes sense that they are somewhat like you

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    10-19-2015, 12:35 PM
    I actually Think animals have personalities just like us. We're essentially the same after all.
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    10-19-2015, 12:53 PM
    My dog barks/whines when I leave. It's a higher-pitched bark than his normal barking at people.

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    10-19-2015, 01:51 PM (This post was last modified: 10-19-2015, 10:10 PM by Ooo.)
    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: Does our current obsession (evidenced on social media) with dogs, cats, and some other animals mean that these creatures are currently moving into 3d consciousness?

    What do obsessions represent? Blockages, indeed. You may want to consider the mirroring effect here. What do second-densities represent in third-density terms? Or more down to the point: what "chakra" does 2D represent within the human being?

    You may then see the obsessive adoration of the 2D animal/pet to represent a moving back into orange ray rather than the moving up into green. The same reason behind the "selfie" phenomenon—the going back into the comfort zone of the little "self" (identity/personality issues and concerns). This also indicates a lack—or underdevelopment—of entity's self-awareness (again, personality complex); hence the constant body-identity reinforcement (ie. "Look, this is me! This is my face and my hair, and I make all these cute baby-faces; look at me; do you like me? OMG, I'm so excited, I love you guys!"). Psychology 101.  

    Anything remotely baby-like or overly cutesy is a sign of innocent/harmless orange-ray "chakra" expression and/or severe blockage. And as you have adequately observed, you'll find plenty of that thanks to social media nowadays.

    Quote:15.12 The next energy complex, which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

    Quote:41.14 The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray.

    Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

    However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

    At the same time, yes, there are perhaps significantly more 2D animal/pets graduating now to 3D than ever before. As anagogy pointed out, these will, by necessity, be moving to other planetary spheres to begin their third-density incarnational cycle. This does not mean, however, that every cat video on YouTube is a candidate for third-density "harvestability."

    (10-19-2015, 01:30 AM)anagogy Wrote: And it is perfectly possible for a 2nd density being to experience green ray energies, however, they won't be skipping any densities to my understanding.  Any being, in any density, may tap into the energies of the cosmos -- red through violet.  However, you will interpret those energies through the lens of what ever true color ray your consciousness identifies with.

    This. Even the periodic table of the elements (earth, water, air, etc) "contains" the 7 primary "chakras" in potential activation within its being. This does not mean these inorganic molecular materials are capable of spontaneously "harvesting" to seventh density all of a sudden and then transcending the octave. Second-density entities do not find themselves in the proper vibratory configuration conducive to any actual "enlightenment" or density-skipping either. The third-density entity's "advantage" is merely that it is capable of utilizing the spirit shuttle due to its capacity for self-reflection/self-awareness, which is both the hallmark or third density and the prerequisite for spirit/shuttle activation and subsequent utilization.

    (10-19-2015, 01:30 AM)anagogy Wrote:
    (10-18-2015, 02:14 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I mean, Human's can skip 4-6D and attain 'enlightenment' in the utter sense of transcending an entire Octave (an impressive feat at any point) by opening the Gateway and contacting Intelligent Infinity.  So I mean, why couldn't a 2D entity manage something similar?

    I actually am not entirely sure a human being can skip to the next octave of densities.  

    This too. A lot of this "enlightenment" talk is purely overblown mythification. These "enlightened" are, in the great majority of cases, merely homegrown 4D graduates. Not "enlightened" beyond that. Whilst others are actually "wanderers" from higher densities who pierced through the veil to some significant degree, hence their apparently "enlightened" status.

    It would be therefore only natural, I suppose, for a 3D entity to look upon such with great astonishment and even idolatrous veneration. Human beings are, after all, very impressionable creatures.

    And this whole "enlightenment" business wouldn't be such a feat if many more third-density entities upon this planet were actually moving into 4D. It would, in fact, be rather commonplace.

    edit: Ra quotes for support
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    10-19-2015, 08:55 PM
    (10-18-2015, 12:35 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: Please feel free to move this thread if it's in the wrong place. 

    it's been moved to "Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters', which is the new name for the former "Life on Planet Earth".   The naming gives it a stronger purpose and identity, and now more strongly contrasts it with Olio.  


    (10-18-2015, 11:58 AM)caycegal Wrote: I was unable to locate the "Meta" thread or the "Overview of Changes," as there were no obvious links. 

    I think this link will tell you everything you need to know Smile

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    in regards to your OP, this passage comes to mind regards the harvestability of two cats:


    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The entity, mind/body/spirit complex, Gandalf, being harvestable third density, is open to the same type of psychic attack to which you yourselves are vulnerable. Therefore, through the mechanism of images and dreams, it is potentially possible for negative concepts to be offered to this mind/body/spirit complex, thus having possible deleterious results.

    The entity, Fairchild, though harvestable through investment, does not have the vulnerability to attack in as great an amount due to a lack of the mind complex activity in the distortion of conscious devotion.

    The link is still missing! (For me.)

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