What is going on, here on Earth?

[Monica]

I have come to the conclusion that there are multiple timelines. The 'bad' planet will stay locked in darkness, while the 'good' one is shifting. The question then becomes: Which one are we attuning to?

That's just my theory, for what it's worth.

[Minyatur]

I have come to the conclusion that there are multiple timelines. The 'bad' planet will stay locked in darkness, while the 'good' one is shifting. The question then becomes: Which one are we attuning to?

That's just my theory, for what it's worth.

Pershaps it'd succeed into shifting into darkness rather than staying locked.

[Minyatur]

Insightful quotes :

Latwii - March 25, 1989 Wrote:The Creator is not an objective referent. This is no palpable, tangible, testable, visible Creator. Rather, the Creator is infinite intelligence, a concept which cannot fully be expressed using your language. The closest we may come to the active principle of that one great original Thought, which is the Creator in its active phase, is that inadequate word, Love.

Hatonn - October 22, 1986 Wrote:We suggest to you, my friends, that there is one consciousness, which in its original and undistorted form may be calledlove. The consciousness of love is the great original Thought, crystal clear and pure, and by its profound, generative nature, the Creator of all that there is.

Hatonn - September 4, 1978 Wrote:It is our understanding that that which was the Creator is infinite, and when there was a desire for self-realization, that which was one Being took energy, which we now call love, and with this infinite energy created all that there is

Quo - Novemeber 11, 2003 Wrote:The creation is, shall we say, a figment of the imagination of the Creator. The Creator exists in a state of absolute rest within which all things occur, a primal paradox to be sure. The first distortion of this perfect balance and peace is choice, or the use of the will. In this case, it was the will of the Creator to know Itself. 


Consequently, the first distortion, that distortion moving away from utter potentiality and utter peace and rest, is that freedom of will, employed first by the Creator Itself, to know Itself. 

Consequently, it is that distortion which precedes the great original Thought, for that original Thought is an active thought—a creative and destructive thought, a powerful, active principle. In making this choice the Creator became, shall we say, the one great original Thought. It is more of a shift between potentiality and actuality or kinetic reality, shall we say. 

However, from this Thought, which was love, there came into being that material which the Creator used to build Its universe, and that is light.

[font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Hatonn - March 19, 1989 Wrote:We come to say that there is one great original Thought; that thought is Love. Not a love as you know it, but a full and complete love, a love both beautiful and terrible, the love of the Creator to know Itself.
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My faovrite one :

Latwii - January 12, 1974 Wrote:Love, my friends, is not what you think it is. The word in your language has a meaning that has various interpretations. But it is none of these things. We use the word when we speak to you, because it is as close as we can come to the concept, using your language. Love, my friends, is that force which does all of the things that are done in the entire creation. All of the things, my friends, even those that you would interpret as being without love.

I took them from this thread which I liked very much as someone who hasn't yet read a lot of channelings : http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...light=love

[anagogy]

How does one accept evil? How do you accept that not only will evil always exist but that it is an essential part of creation, without which, good could not exist and the creation could not progress? I've always struggled with that.  The idea that wars and holocausts are necessary for heavens and suns.  Without ugliness there is no beauty.  Without fear and enslavement, there is no love and freedom.  Why can’t love and freedom exist independently and of their own merit?  Why can't something just be beautiful?  Why do countless planets and lives need to be destroyed in order for their worth to be understood and appreciated? 

I just find it unacceptable that in order for me, or anyone for that matter, to be in a state of love and peace some poor soul(s) in the cosmos needs to be in a state of terror and misery, and vice versa.  In order for me to progress there needs to be someone who is stuck.  I don’t like the creation or the laws it is built on, there I said it.

For as long as there is a creation there will always be negativity, there will always be suffering and enslavement and there will always be planets like ours, and many which are even worse off. I guess you could say that it is all a choice and that is what makes it all acceptable and fair, but even after all I've read I am not convinced.  I get that I am sounding like a little child right now but so be it, in many ways I still am one.  Maybe I am just weak.

Am I starting to sound like a broken record?

No, you don't sound like a broken record.

But here's the thing.  As horrible as all that stuff seems to you.  Guess what?  It is an illusion.  A game that we are all playing.  A videogame.  We take it soooooo seriously because forgot it was a game.  But that was the whole point of the veil.  So we would take it seriously.  But after you shed your physical body, you're going to be like, "Wow, that was an interesting role I just played."  And whether you committed acts of evil, or acts of good, everyone will still take off their costume and face paint, shake hands, and say "good show."  And then you stop taking it seriously.  You see it for what it is.  And then you sort of mull it over and contemplate the sum of your experience for a period of "time", and then you do it again.

And when you die, you just reemerge into pure positive energy.  And there is no law saying a soul HAS to suffer in order for you to progress.  The aversive contrast is just a product of desire.  If you have a desire for one thing, the opposite of that has to become aversive, else the desire could not be.  The creator wants variety.  But we are the sifters and sorters and explorers of that variety.  That is our function.

And we *DO* create our own realities.  And the only power anyone has over you is to the extent that they capture your thoughts, your beliefs, and your intent.  So all the people that are concerned and focused upon manipulation, negativity, and conspiracies are just perpetuating the appearance of that reality.  And part of taking back your power is just looking for well being, and becoming a vibrational match to that, by the pure focusing on that. You are the focusing of infinity itself, and the power that creates worlds is always flowing through you. Learn to use it.

In my opinion Folk-love you've inadvertently imagined the world to be a more horrible place than it is.  It happens to the best of us.  

Would it terribly upset your sensibilities if I simply told you: there is nothing serious going on here.  We have all eternity to figure this out.  Everybody is doing perfectly.  Every state of development is perfect.  There is no higher or lower in the stream of evolution.  There are just stages of development.  An ape is not wrong for not being a human. A caterpillar is not wrong for not being a butterfly. And there is no sense getting mad at a cat for being a cat.  And everything is where it is, and there is nothing wrong with any of it.    

And all suffering will be absolutely and completely healed in the course of time.  It could not be otherwise, because all dualities are just perturbations of oneness, and unity is absolute balance. The knot you feel in your heart is because the way you've imagined the universe is not in agreement with how the Source inside of you sees things.

All is well.

[norral]

i dont believe there is an answer to your question. why is there suffering. why do 5 years old kids get cancer. lots of them. why does evil seem to be blessed on this planet ha ha . if u do the right thing many times u are perceived as the bad guy and persecuted. look at snowden ha ha he tells the truth and hes the traitor ha ha. i dont have any definitive answer for it and i do get frustrated with it for sure for there seems to be an extreme lack of justice here.
what i do find comfort in is in empowering myself. getting closer to my core discovering the power within me. the more powerful i become in doing good the more i can be of benefit to my fellow man. there are 6 or 7 billion of us here each one of us is only one but we are one. we cant do everything but we can do somethings. and i have found that the good that we do is significant it is important it does impact peoples lives positively so dont underestimate yourself. buddha said we each have the buddha nature hmm nice. christ said the kingdom of heaven is within nice hey. so i strive to manifest the kingdom of heaven in my life. yes i get frustrated with this world i get angry at the injustice but that is not going to stop me from doing the good that i can do and from being a positive force where i am. and i think that is all any of us can do. and one thing i do know amidst all of this uncertainty here on this planet. whatever is done in love is never ever done in vain. seeds sown in love with eventually some way some how yield a harvest of joy both for us and for those we love

[Billy]

How does one accept evil? How do you accept that not only will evil always exist but that it is an essential part of creation, without which, good could not exist and the creation could not progress? I've always struggled with that.  The idea that wars and holocausts are necessary for heavens and suns.  Without ugliness there is no beauty.  Without fear and enslavement, there is no love and freedom.  Why can’t love and freedom exist independently and of their own merit?  Why can't something just be beautiful?  Why do countless planets and lives need to be destroyed in order for their worth to be understood and appreciated? 

I just find it unacceptable that in order for me, or anyone for that matter, to be in a state of love and peace some poor soul(s) in the cosmos needs to be in a state of terror and misery, and vice versa.  In order for me to progress there needs to be someone who is stuck.  I don’t like the creation or the laws it is built on, there I said it.

For as long as there is a creation there will always be negativity, there will always be suffering and enslavement and there will always be planets like ours, and many which are even worse off. I guess you could say that it is all a choice and that is what makes it all acceptable and fair, but even after all I've read I am not convinced.  I get that I am sounding like a little child right now but so be it, in many ways I still am one.  Maybe I am just weak.

Am I starting to sound like a broken record?

No, you don't sound like a broken record.

But here's the thing.  As horrible as all that stuff seems to you.  Guess what?  It is an illusion.  A game that we are all playing.  A videogame.  We take it soooooo seriously because forgot it was a game.  But that was the whole point of the veil.  So we would take it seriously.  But after you shed your physical body, you're going to be like, "Wow, that was an interesting role I just played."  And whether you committed acts of evil, or acts of good, everyone will still take off their costume and face paint, shake hands, and say "good show."  And then you stop taking it seriously.  You see it for what it is.  And then you sort of mull it over and contemplate the sum of your experience for a period of "time", and then you do it again.

And when you die, you just reemerge into pure positive energy.  And there is no law saying a soul HAS to suffer in order for you to progress.  The aversive contrast is just a product of desire.  If you have a desire for one thing, the opposite of that has to become aversive, else the desire could not be.  The creator wants variety.  But we are the sifters and sorters and explorers of that variety.  That is our function.

And we *DO* create our own realities.  And the only power anyone has over you is to the extent that they capture your thoughts, your beliefs, and your intent.  So all the people that are concerned and focused upon manipulation, negativity, and conspiracies are just perpetuating the appearance of that reality.  And part of taking back your power is just looking for well being, and becoming a vibrational match to that, by the pure focusing on that.  You are the focusing of infinity itself, and the power that creates worlds is always flowing through you.  Learn to use it.

In my opinion Folk-love you've inadvertently imagined the world to be a more horrible place than it is.  It happens to the best of us.  

Would it terribly upset your sensibilities if I simply told you: there is nothing serious going on here.  We have all eternity to figure this out.  Everybody is doing perfectly.  Every state of development is perfect.  There is no higher or lower in the stream of evolution.  There are just stages of development.  An ape is not wrong for not being a human.  A caterpillar is not wrong for not being a butterfly.  And there is no sense getting mad at a cat for being a cat.  And everything is where it is, and there is nothing wrong with any of it.    

And all suffering will be absolutely and completely healed in the course of time.  It could not be otherwise, because all dualities are just perturbations of oneness, and unity is absolute balance.  The knot you feel in your heart is because the way you've imagined the universe is not in agreement with how the Source inside of you sees things.  

All is well.

I feel as though I have been able to internalize and believe this in the past, yet even in doing so I didn't feel any better really.  It felt rather shallow and ready to collapse at any given moment.  Maybe I just didn't do it for long enough, was insincere in my efforts or wasn't doing it correctly.  I don't know.

There is an inner conflict within me, with that conflict being that taking nothing seriously and seeing everything as a game is somewhat comforting and reassuring but at the same time there is a strong desire to take something seriously otherwise everything just seems trivial and pointless.  Taking things seriously however can very easily lead you into a state of despair and hopelessness when looking at the world and creation we inhabit.  So you can see my conflict; it's either be in a shallow state of 'peace' and 'all is wellness' or feel a deep and painful longing, sadness and despair.  I honestly don't know which one I prefer, they both suck aha.  What about a deep and lasting peace, meaning, connection and love?  It seems that that option is only available outside of this matrix or video game, as you put it.  Hence, I have a death wish as my constant companion.  

I admit though that I am afraid of love.  What if it isn't fulfilling and is ultimately disappointing?  What is left then other than annihilation?  I just can't seem to find a place in this creation to the point where I sometimes curse the creator for creating me in the first place.  There is so much more that I would like to express but I am unable to.  I can't disagree though that I am to blame for my current condition and that I need to take responsibility for it instead of blaming outside circumstances.  It's hard though.

[anagogy]

I feel as though I have been able to internalize and believe this in the past, yet even in doing so I didn't feel any better really.  It felt rather shallow and ready to collapse at any given moment.  Maybe I just didn't do it for long enough, was insincere in my efforts or wasn't doing it correctly.  I don't know.

There is an inner conflict within me, with that conflict being that taking nothing seriously and seeing everything as a game is somewhat comforting and reassuring but at the same time there is a strong desire to take something seriously otherwise everything just seems trivial and pointless.  Taking things seriously however can very easily lead you into a state of despair and hopelessness when looking at the world and creation we inhabit.  So you can see my conflict; it's either be in a shallow state of 'peace' and 'all is wellness' or feel a deep and painful longing, sadness and despair.  I honestly don't know which one I prefer, they both suck aha.  What about a deep and lasting peace, meaning, connection and love?  It seems that that option is only available outside of this matrix or video game, as you put it.  Hence, I have a death wish as my constant companion.  

I admit though that I am afraid of love.  What if it isn't fulfilling and is ultimately disappointing?  What is left then other than annihilation?  I just can't seem to find a place in this creation to the point where I sometimes curse the creator for creating me in the first place.  There is so much more that I would like to express but I am unable to.  I can't disagree though that I am to blame for my current condition and that I need to take responsibility for it instead of blaming outside circumstances.  It's hard though.

I hear you.  That is the spiritual dilemma and one of the reasons we keep reincarnating.  When we are down in the seemingly serious drama of earth life, where separation seems real, where it seems like suffering is real, it is an adrenaline rush, but it is exhausting. So we start desiring, or asking, for more peace.  But then, we sort of get bored with peace, which causes us to desire, or ask, for a little bit of drama.  Thus, we incarnate into the drama again.  And start the cycle all over again.

One of things that is important to understand about the universe and the nature of reality in general is that whatever you place your attention on will expand.  There is no bottom to whatever barrel you are looking at.  The law of attraction will attract a a never ending stream of joys, or a neverending stream of miseries.  Whatever you choose to focus on will expand, and become more prominent in your experience.  And when what is Not Wanted is dominantly active in your vibration, you can only ever find evidence of that.  It can make the world seem dark and pointless and horrible.  If you can make that which is Wanted more dominantly active in your vibration, evidence of that will find its way to you, and you won't be worrying about what the point is of anything, or whether love will disappoint you.  It will be so obviously satisfying and better than you can possibly imagine in its completeness that you will wonder how you ever saw the world as anything other than that.

In fact, if you could just focus on a few things every day that are going right in your life, it would begin to gradually pull all these other subjects in your life into positive perspective as well.  I like to make lists of things I appreciate.  Really helps tune me to the well being of the universe. It's like counting your blessings. True, genuine appreciation raises your vibration dramatically.

[Aion]

It's stupid expecting oneself to love everything.

[Minyatur]

It's stupid expecting oneself to love everything.

Well I am one who would be glad to just experience that which is the fruit of work without work.

[Bluebell]

i'm eating a salad. someone else made it. killed the chicken. whole shebang.

[Minyatur]

@Folk-love

All the things we spoke of about the ever-perfection is the ultimate awareness of beingness. We currently exist to incarnate distortions to undistort by living them fully until we finally reach back to this awareness, back to the Original Thought, which we are far from. So how you do feel is quite normal in itself.

To me it seems that when if one is unwell with the current reality, he can then proceeds to work on changing this said reality. This is why the veil in itself is a good catalyst for growth, because it gives a reason to desire polarization.

By healing self one can polarize, and by polarizing one can then heal the world around him. There is acceptance of other-selves but there is also acceptance of self which is of equal importance. We are co-Creators, each adding to this painting of reality. If you do dislike Darkness, you can paint your own Light over existing Darkness that is within your reach, ever-extending your reach in the process.