The difference between 'guiding' and 'teaching'

[AnthroHeart]

It makes me wonder why a 4D+ or higher being would never kill another being. Because they see the otherself as themselves, and that such action would be wrong for them. So you must have a sense of judgment in higher densities.

How else could Ra tell which information would violate the Law of Confusion or Law of Free Will, by using judgment. But to Ra, is nothing truly wrong?

[xise]

If only I could put aside right or wrong. At least I try not to have judgment in my meditations about what's wrong when images come up, or thoughts. I once thought I was in 4D, that there was no consequence to my actions, and I did some foolish things. I guess they weren't wrong, and I could have done worse things. I no longer think of coming here into 3D was a wrong decision. Maybe a hard one, but not wrong.

Judgment is a valuable/positive tool and it isn't something you can put aside. Judging aspects as right/wrong or preferable/nonpreferable, whatever you want to call it, is quite healthy and necessary for your own personal/spiritual (it's all the same to me) development.

Judgment as defined as in judgment/condemnation adds distortion. Judgement as defined as making decisions or deciding what to do is important. It can be confusing, because we switch between definitions often and Ra does so too - at times using judging to describe discerning a course of action, and at other times using judgment as something opposite to acceptance:

5.2 Questioner: We have decided to accept, if offered, the honor/duty of learning/teaching the healing process. I would ask as to the first step which we should accomplish in becoming effective healers.
Ra: I am Ra. We shall begin with the first of the three teachings/learnings.

We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be opened like a door. The key is silence.

Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular, bearing inner relationships.

To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause blockages and confusions in the already-distorted mind complex. Each acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders....

You can use whatever words you want to describe determining a course of action. Wrong and right imply absolutism and a certain level of unacceptability to me personally; while preferable/non-preferable seems substantially less absolute and more accepting to me. I personally call it conscious/unconscious decisions, which engenders the same less absolute, more accepting view of reality.

I think at the end of the day, it's less about the words you use and more about the accepting, non-absolute nature of the terminology used to describe any and all decisions, whether your own decisions, or the decisions of others.

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It makes me wonder why a 4D+ or higher being would never kill another being. Because they see the otherself as themselves, and that such action would be wrong for them. So you must have a sense of judgment in higher densities.

How else could Ra tell which information would violate the Law of Confusion or Law of Free Will, by using judgment. But to Ra, is nothing truly wrong?

Don't they say even a 4D aware wanderer, Jesus, killed a playmate when he was young? Doesn't Ra mention that Lincoln's 4D walk-in waged war and was responsible for killing others?

All is acceptable my friend. Just be sure to think through the consequences of your actions and decide for yourself whether that is something you wish to explore.

[Melissa]

Indeed, all is acceptable, from a non-3D perspective.

[Jeremy]

Jesus pushed a playmate from a roof when he was a child but this was prior to his awakening. I imagine such an awakenig occurred during the lost years prior to returning to his birthplace.

I only mention it because once such awakenig has occurred, the law of responsibility could be invoked. It doesn't mean that it always is but once one has been informed of the ways of the Law of One, such acts, regardless of severity, shall be accepted. I'm definitely not claiming to be at this point and I'm sure there are very few who even come close to such acceptance but even from a 3D perspective, such acceptance is possible.

[Parsons]

I hate to quibble over the details since your point is valid either way, but where are you getting that he pushed someone from a rooftop?

"Questioner: How did Jesus learn this during his incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. This entity learned the ability by a natural kind of remembering at a very young age. Unfortunately, this entity first discovered his ability to penetrate intelligent infinity by becoming the distortion you call “angry” at a playmate. This entity was touched by the entity known as Jesus to you and was fatally wounded.

Thus the one known as Jesus became aware that there dwelt in him a terrible potential. This entity determined to discover how to use this energy for the good, not for the negative. This entity was extremely positively polarized and remembered more than most Wanderers do."

[Jeremy]

I hate to quibble over the details since your point is valid either way, but where are you getting that he pushed someone from a rooftop?

"Questioner: How did Jesus learn this during his incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. This entity learned the ability by a natural kind of remembering at a very young age. Unfortunately, this entity first discovered his ability to penetrate intelligent infinity by becoming the distortion you call “angry” at a playmate. This entity was touched by the entity known as Jesus to you and was fatally wounded.

Thus the one known as Jesus became aware that there dwelt in him a terrible potential. This entity determined to discover how to use this energy for the good, not for the negative. This entity was extremely positively polarized and remembered more than most Wanderers do."

I either read it somewhere or actually, I think it was a multi part series about his life on discovery or something but it was definitely outside of the Ra material.
Actually I just read a little and it seemed that he didn't push the child off going from the bible but he was accused of it so my apologies for the mix up

[native]

I understand the mechanics but I don't understand how that's applicable during any kind of social interaction, other than repression.

/To clarify, in the grand scheme of things, sure. And I don't mean it in a sense to consistently act upon it, but in the moment of having a conversation I can't help but think of something as wrong/right etc. And I'm quite ok with it too. Otherwise we wouldn't have anything left to talk about.

It all depends on what you consider worthy of conversation I suppose. What I mean is that in many instances, conversations don't have to go down certain roads. Personally, I feel it's actually quite possible to go about your day without getting involved in oh, how would you say it, social commentary or details. You can always say "Ahh who gives a s***" lol or put a positive spin on things, without getting deep into details. I've learned a lot by practicing this at work. It's all related to desire. Most conversation is negative interpretation of catalyst (people pointing fingers in all sorts of directions), which you can jump in and support, or conversation is fueled emotionally through wanting to correct the other and be right. We get sucked into that stuff because we desire it and we're still working with the catalyst.

Our day to day interaction and conversation doesn't have to be about any of that though. There's no rule saying we have to participate in those things! We can laugh and be happy and live in the moment. The more you work with your mirror, you start seeing yourself very easily and all sorts of things start becoming amusing.

Happiness and playful radiance is easily understood.."Contact with indigo ray need not necessarily show itself in any certain gift or guidepost, as you have said. There are some whose indigo energy is that of pure being and never is manifested, yet all are aware of such an entity’s progress."

[xise]

Somewhat off-topic but man, to catch someone off-guard and to push them off a rooftop - that is some cold ass s***. The person getting pushed off would definitely have a WTF moment as he or she got pushed. Cold, so cold.

[Melissa]

I understand the mechanics but I don't understand how that's applicable during any kind of social interaction, other than repression.

/To clarify, in the grand scheme of things, sure. And I don't mean it in a sense to consistently act upon it, but in the moment of having a conversation I can't help but think of something as wrong/right etc. And I'm quite ok with it too. Otherwise we wouldn't have anything left to talk about.

It all depends on what you consider worthy of conversation I suppose. What I mean is that in many instances, conversations don't have to go down certain roads. Personally, I feel it's actually quite possible to go about your day without getting involved in oh, how would you say it, social commentary or details. You can always say "Ahh who gives a s***" lol or put a positive spin on things, without getting deep into details. I've learned a lot by practicing this at work. It's all related to desire. Most conversation is negative interpretation of catalyst (people pointing fingers in all sorts of directions), which you can jump in and support, or conversation is fueled emotionally through wanting to correct the other and be right. We get sucked into that stuff because we desire it and we're still working with the catalyst.

Our day to day interaction and conversation doesn't have to be about any of that though. There's no rule saying we have to participate in those things! We can laugh and be happy and live in the moment. The more you work with your mirror, you start seeing yourself very easily and all sorts of things start becoming amusing.

Happiness and playful radiance is easily understood.."Contact with indigo ray need not necessarily show itself in any certain gift or guidepost, as you have said. There are some whose indigo energy is that of pure being and never is manifested, yet all are aware of such an entity’s progress."

These are interesting assumptions. Or, projections? Because, in my entire life, I've never been this happy. And you wouldn't believe how many times a day I still go "whatever" or decide to "bite my tongue" and have a good laugh about it.

[Sagittarius]

I also find the allegorical nature of seemingly simple statements from others and myself quite useful. People only ever talk about themselves and about you or self as a whole basically. Like the other day someone at work made a simple statement of "man I'am so glad that bastard Joffrey got what he deserved the purple wedding made up for the red wedding" "Shame about Tyrion getting the blame from the fools though". Relating to the Joffrey in myself being killed through purple poison one can take from it many positive meanings, then the Tyrion part as well with Cersei (negative matter) placing blame and shame still on the easily perceived positive aspect of Tyrion that lays in everything. My reply was simple but the intention behind the reply of the greater recognition of more including meme's was obvious in the other self's eyes.

It's quite funny how powerless negative interpretations are once you start seeing that everything can be used positively. Also the memory you gain of the past/future occurrences of these energy exchanges which really isn't a remembrance at all as much as it is a simple becoming. The speed picks up faster and faster as you recognize these reflections of self and use will/faith to send the pain below into a perfect chaotic order. It's the difference between killing emotions with thoughts in the higher centers to placing them in there proper place in the lower centers then witnessing/experiencing the transformation in the lower center's or reality as we perceive it, basically through self reaction and other self reaction or lack there of.

[native]

These are interesting assumptions. Or, projections? Because, in my entire life, I've never been this happy. And you wouldn't believe how many times a day I still go "whatever" or decide to "bite my tongue" and have a good laugh about it.

Glad to hear it

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People only ever talk about themselves and about you or self as a whole basically.

Yep, it's the only thing that's ever going on. You become quite conscious of how participating in judgmental statements as a group, such as talking about someone while they're not around, supports and perpetuates a separative mindset. So we have a responsibility to be mindful with our words, especially when the judgments are recognized traits within yourself..which would not be teaching what you're learning. That's buddhism 101, but it can be difficult in a workplace situation for example.

"Therefore, those of the first type, those who seek to serve and are willing to be trained in thought, word, and action are those who will be able to comfortably maintain the distortion towards service in the area of healing."